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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:19 PM
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Everybody does NOT LOVE RAYMOND!
Raymond sucks, and not in the good way!

What am I missing out on? WHy is it so popular?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:20 PM
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1. No clue
I never saw the show
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:20 PM
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2. heh
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 05:20 PM by JohnKleeb
Never seen it.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:20 PM
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3. ROFLMAO
I should get my mom to sign up for DU, just so she could post on this thread. She feels exactly the same way. Personally I've only had it on as background noise, never paid attention
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:20 PM
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4. I'm with you
I have never understood why people like that show. I personally can't stand it, and do NOT think it should win Emmys.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:20 PM
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5. never seen it
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:23 PM
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6. I've tried it, but don't like it
And while I don't like the Osbournes, either, I thought Patrica Heaton had some nerve complaining about their projecting a NEGATIVE image of the TV family sitcom!


rocknation
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:47 PM
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10. She's a idiot. The Osbournes are great!
Ok, I know you don't like them too, but as a fellow DUer I have more respect for your opinion than hers.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:25 PM
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7. I hate tha guy
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:31 PM
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8. Raymond isn't so bad
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 05:31 PM by khephra
It's his loveless family and ungrateful wife that ruin the show. If I was Raymond, I would have left them all years ago. The guy never really does anything seriuosly wrong, but if you'd listen to his wife it's like he's a cromag. I can only remember a few times that I've ever seen his wife when she's not being a pain in the ass to him.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:34 PM
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9. i like it
because marie is EXACTLY like my grandmother.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:50 AM
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32. I Don't Like It
for this very reason. Raymond and the family next door are OK, but Deborah is a shrew. I can't imagine living my life with someone like that. I'd have to kill her. And I'm a female.

My girlfriends who like the show say that the relationship between Ray and his wife is SO TRUE. Maybe this is why I'm not married. If THAT'S marriage, I want no parts of it.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:43 AM
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34. Is "shrew" acceptable with women?
I really, really try to avoid using the term "bitch", but that's the only word that I think fits her. It took some time to come up with "pain". I like "shrew" though. That's really fitting.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:48 AM
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36. The best part of the show ...
is not Raymond.

Like most great sitcoms, the star is not the only reason that a show is successful. Many times it is the supporting actors that make a show great. It think this is also the case with ELR.

Cheers
Drifter
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:50 PM
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11. I agree...
I tried to watch it a couple of times but thought it was just plain stupid. :shrug:
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dwmcqueen Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:51 PM
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12. Key difference
Most people I know who like it are married - those who are not don't really seem to care.

I think it's biggest draw is in finding similarities betwene the exaggerated life of a sitcom and real life.
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:55 PM
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13. Count me among the unenlightened
'Cause I think it's great!

I always get a laugh because Raymond's life is JUST LIKE MINE (meaningless superficial differences excepted, of course). It's strangely comforting to know that I deal with it better than he does.

:-)
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:57 PM
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14. a nice, nonoffensive situation comedy . . .
with a couple of pretty funny characters (Peter Boyle, Doris Roberts) . . . but certainly not the best comedy on tv, maybe not even in the top ten . . . I watch it occasionally when I need something mind-numbing, and when there's nothing else on . . .
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:59 PM
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15. Raymond is brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's the best comdey on television, no question.

And even if it weren't you know why I like it? Because it's not lazy like Friends, or any other sitcom.

Raymond is your classic, three-camera, long scene sitcom. People have to rehearse this--they don't just roll out of bed like those no-talent skanks on Friends, turn to the director, ask for a line, and that whole line is the entire scene!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:11 PM
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16. Every show is exactly the same
His wife complains about something that is wrong with their marriage or how they are raising the kids. His Mom comes over and tells his wife no so subtly that she is a bad mother and wife. His father comes over and asks for some food and yells, "Holy crap!" and sits down to watch TV. His brother comes over and complains how sucky his life is compared to Raymond's. Then they all have an epiphany and realize that Raymond is screwed up because of his parents, that his brother is even more screwed up but no one cares, and his wife stops complaining because she realizes that they already had exactly the same plot on a previous episode.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:15 PM
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28. I've seen that show!
Numerous times. That's why I don't watch any more.

I got really tired of the marital tension on that show.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:15 PM
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17. I certainly don't get it
holds no appeal to me either
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:23 PM
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18. Great minds think alike
I started a similar thread some weeks ago.

Raymond is not loved by me. The show is not funny. I cannot stand the actress who plays his wife.

I do like Doris Roberts, but not in this. Ditto with Boyle.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:29 PM
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19. it is a good show
It is a lot funnier than what Steinfeld ever was
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tarheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:40 AM
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33. Oh you've done it now Parche !
Seinfeld was light years funnier than Raymond will ever be. Michael Richards as Kramer alone was funnier than anyone on the cast of
"I can't stand Raymond".

As another poster aptly summarized, every show is the same plot line just with different circumstances. :P


"I for one will not sit idly by while a wonderful television program like Seinfeld is maligned by the un-American forces of the "Everybody
loves Raymond" contingent. <sarcasm off> :D
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:32 PM
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20. The other thing that makes it hard for me to watch it
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 06:33 PM by khephra
Is that I've heard the actress who plays Raymond's wife talk about politics, and guess what? She a nasty, liberal-slamming Republican. Ever since I heard her talk on politics I haven't been able to see her character the same way. It now makes too much sense to me as to how she can play such a nasty wife--it's not too much of a stretch from her real personality.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:42 PM
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24. Yeah she's a HUGE anti-choicer
and she does ads for Albertson's supermarkets out here in CA (and A&P, I think, back east). You might wanna let them know how you feel about her as a spokesperson.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:09 PM
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27. We get those Albertson's ads in Nevada
I really hate them because they are so phony. They portray Heaton as a typical, overworked mom. Give me a break! She probably has an assistant who handles all of her shopping. Now that I know her politics, I hate the ads even more.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:28 PM
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21. I confess, I love it. Delores Roberts has my mother in law down
pat. I mean pat.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:32 PM
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22. never seen it....nt
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 07:32 PM
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23. I don't get it either
It is just "OK" - but not the major league show it is hyped as. Not to mention all the awards - perhaps because TV sitcoms are so lame.

I thought the John Ritter show was much better - now we shall have to see about that one.

Raymond doesn't even BEGIN to compare with Scrubs or Malcolm in the Middle to name just two in the Sitcom category. But then they are not "mainstream" - too inventive for the sheeple.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:35 PM
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25. I've always seen it as
Just another show that celebrates the gelding of the american male.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 08:37 PM
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26. I've been saying that for years! I don't love Raymond.
A lot of people I know love it, so I tried--I really did--but it just doesn't do it for me. I MIGHT have one or two chuckles in an episode; I might also have none. I find it more annoying than anything, and I find Ray Romano particularly annoying, wherever I see him. He doesn't seem to have any personality, his voice is whiny and annoying--he's totally unfunny.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:24 PM
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29. Mean Spirited, Do The Wrong Thing TV.
Thinly veiled as comedy. My .02

Jay
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 09:27 PM
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30. Plus stupid one-dimensional TV children
TV children don't actually have personalities or needs. TV kids are a lot more stupid than real kids. TV kids never get sick. TV kids never interupt you when you're trying to have sex. TV kids just crack stupid oneliners and take naps. I hate TV kids.

Sarah
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Fatima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:40 PM
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31. The Fab Five from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy need to
come over and give the Barone family a complete do-over. I'd go nuts living in a dump like that. And he dresses like a schlub. But then again, he is one.

(yep, hate the show, hate most sitcoms)
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NYYFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:44 AM
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35. Haven't a clue
Everybody does not love Ray Romano either- just ask Brad Garrett ;-)

p.s. Patricia Heaton- she's also on my list. :puke:
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