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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:54 AM
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Poll question: IF the Red Sox win the ALCS, Yankee fans on DU will...
Big IF, but still...
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 03:59 AM
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1. Nothing
The Yanks won 27 World Championships and will probaly be in the ALCS next year.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:28 AM
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2. Will, you forgot

the "bitch" part of "bitch and moan"!

:D

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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:02 AM
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3. The most successful sports franchise ever
and their fans will never let anyone forget it.
They will cry for the firing of managers and coaches.
They will blame their pitchers
They will blame their players
They will cheap shot fans and opposing players
They will shower the opposing outfielders with garbage
They will NEVER give the OTHER team the credit they deserve.

I don't dislike the Yankees as much as I hate their fans!
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:21 AM
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6. Sounds like projection to me
I don't recognize any of those things in the Yankees and our fans (other than the most successful franchise ever). However, all of these things HAVE occured this season in Boston.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:22 AM
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7. Pot.............
kettle, black. Red Sox fans are no better, just more frustrated. The Yankees have a tradition of winning. I suppose if the Red Sox had the same tradition they'd be more vocal about the management of the team as well. When you're accustomed to losing in the post season I suppose you resign yourself to mediocrity and accept it as the norm. We Yankee fans expect much more, and our expectations are most often realized.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:25 AM
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8. Most of the Yankees fans are fair weather fans
I am not saying you are but you do live in Florida, but I know alot of Yankee fans in my area that have never been east of the Mississippi.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:31 AM
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10. Most Red Sox fans boil puppies
I am not saying you are, but I know a lot of Red Sox fans in my area who eat them with a little quiante :eyes:
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:49 PM
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52. I am not a Red Sox fan
but I am sad many Red Sox fans boil puppies. :cry:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:36 AM
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11. I moved here one year ago next week..................
from New York. I spent the first 52 years of my life as a New Yorker. New York is a great state, but the climate sucks. The cultural shock of moving to Florida was enormous. There's a John Birch Society billboard about 5 miles down the road from me. Most people think New York is scary, I was never scared in New York, but I'm scared as hell down here. This is no place for a Liberal.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:50 PM
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53. Good for you
:thumbsup: Good luck to your team even though I hope they lose. :evilgrin:
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:39 AM
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33. I'm not a fair-weather fan
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 09:40 AM by sexybomber
My family has been Yankees fans since the team was started :D

And don't take the Cubs logo in my sig to mean the opposite... I just want to see a Cubs-Yanks series
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:51 PM
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56. Where were the yankee fans before Steinbrenner bought the team?
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 06:52 PM by maveric
Remember the Horace Clark era? 2000 fans in the stands for last place teams.
Granted the Sox have sucked more than they've been good over the past 85 years, but they always pack the bandbox on the Fens and have a great local and national following.


Edited for spelling.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:54 AM
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12. we don't hate you
so there
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:08 AM
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4. Like to stir up trouble Will?
As a lifelong Yankee's fan, I'd take defeat the same as a fan of any other team. You single out Yankee's fans as moaners and whiners because of the Red Sox ineptitude at post season play. I suppose if I had to wait those many years I'd be jealous and bitter as well. It's not the Yankees or their fans that are responsible for the Red Sox poor performance in the past years, get over it.
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:19 AM
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5. LOL! Good points all!
If the Red Sox make it to the WS I'll enjoy watching them get beat! :P
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:30 AM
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9. Actually..................
as an avowed Yankee's fan, I wouldn't mind seeing a Cubs/Red Sox series this year. It would be good for baseball, and one of these perenially miserable teams would finally break their supposed "jinx" and become World Series Champions. I'd hate to be the losing team or a fan of said team though. Mass suicides and spousal abuse would no doubt ensue.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 05:57 AM
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13. It would be the battle of the curses
to see which team was more cursed, Cubs or Redsox!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:14 AM
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14. Heard Somebody Call It 'The Sign Of The Apocolypse Series'...
the other day (potential Cubbies\Bosox Series)!!!

Thought that was pretty funny... maybe. :scared:
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:30 AM
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15. Sign the "Gutless Punk" Pedro after the 2004 Season
and claim he is misunderstood warrior.

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:30 AM
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16. Well, I just hope the behavior of Yankee fans on DU improves
The Yankee fans do expect their team to perform every year-they have had the highest payroll in baseball for years, and Steinbrenner wants his money's worth.

I have very good friends from NY who are lifelong Yankee fans and really love the tradition. Unfortunately, it seems that the DU Yankee fans enjoy antagonizing the Sox fans on this board more than enjoy the long tradition of great baseball played at Yankee stadium.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:33 AM
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17. Get some old guy to go crazy and charge the mound
Sorry couldn't resist. I am curious as to how the Yankee fans in NYC will react when the series gets back there.
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:35 AM
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18. TFF
maybe Larry Bud Melman can play Zimm in the film.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:38 AM
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20. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What ever happened to Bud Melman?
Pretty uncanny resemblance.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:47 AM
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22. You wouldn't thinkit but he can pass for Gene Shalit too
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:52 AM
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23. So long SUCKERS!!


Great line when Dave was in Vegas Once. To start the show Clavert Deforest comes out and puts a quarter in a big slot machine he says,"If it pays off we'll split it"

The crowd goes wild, he pulls the arm, it pays off big time, he scoops up all the money and yells, "SO LONG SUCKERS!!!" and walks off.

Deforest was "discovered in a NYU anti-VD film and the staff got him to be on the show. Apparently he was making too much money from doing the show and at one time and if I remember the story correctly he was volunteering at some sort of health clinic but too much to be working there. It was something like that I think Dave and NBC got their lawyers to work it out.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:37 AM
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19. The Yankee Fans Will Clap Like Their At the F'in' Opera
You know how polite and classy they are, according to our Yankee DUers. :crazy:

I'd bet money on misbehavior if we see a Clemens/Pedro re-match at Yankee Stadium. Debris on the field? Batteries, maybe?
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:43 AM
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21. Blame Skull and Bones... (nt)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 07:57 AM
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24. It really does not matter wether the Sox or the Yanks win...
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 07:57 AM by God_bush_n_cheney
Cause the Cubs are going to take the series in the 4th game...Prepare to be whupped.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:02 AM
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25. I Hope It's a Cubs/Sox World Series
:bounce:

What are you doing up so early, Andy?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:08 AM
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26. I had a bad dream...
Something to do with having a birthday.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:10 AM
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27. Happy Birthday!
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 08:11 AM by RationalRose
Have a good one! Doing anything special?


:bounce:
:bounce:
:bounce:

It's my Mom's Birthday today, too.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:58 AM
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28. We will never know............
.......
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:11 AM
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29. If you believe defeat will be humiliating, you must believe Red Sox
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 09:11 AM by soleft
are a lesser team. After all, what's humiliating about losing to a decent team.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:30 AM
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30. Defeat wouldn't be humiliating (or, Will Pitt, the Little Lamb)
We'd shake hands, and say good show.

Will Pitt and the Boston fans are like Nietzsche's little lambs, bleating away their soul-withering resentment: "Yankees bad; therefore, we're good!" This is, of course, the slave revolt in morality - taken to its extreme in a baseball context. But only the loser Red Sox fans could cry, moan, and gnash teeth - they are the true lovers of the slave morality. But they seriously misunderstand the Masters if they think we are the same.

The Red Sox fans hate the Yankees with a burning hatred that could only fester in the hearts of the little lambs. But the Yankee fans don't understand: Why all the hate? We do not hate the Red Sox at all. As Nietzsche says, "we don't dislike them at all, these good little lambs; we even love them: nothing is more tasty than a tender lamb..." (On the Genealogy of Morals, Essay 1, Part 13)

;-)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:36 AM
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31. Sure-Obviously you've never been a Sox fan at a Yankee Game
:eyes:

The bad blood goes both ways, pal.

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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:38 AM
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32. There There, Charlotte
Everything will be alright...
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:35 AM
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39. No need to patronize, Professor Markses
I has a mastahs degree despite bein' an unedumacated little lamb. And Dat Neetchee guy is a crock o'shite.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:49 AM
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42. That's sweet, dear
There there.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:41 AM
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34. yankees fans don't hate sox fans?
read your post, it's extremely condescending and childish AT BEST, and I can't say what it really is without getting this post deleted, so read into it what you like, and remember, it does take a lot of talent to grab a bowling ball by it's ears;)
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:00 PM
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47. You don't hate the Red Sox? Oh, that's rich
Yeah, right...
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:46 PM
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51. Yankee fans do not hate the Red Sox
They have no need to. We've dominated the pathetic Red Sox for damn near a century. Why hate the little lamb? It is so tender and so sweet. This does not mean, of course, that the Yankees don't dominate the Red Sox, or that the Yankee fans don't rile the Red Sox fans. One cannot blame a bird of prey for being a bird of prey. We just don't hate them. We even love them. They're so cute, cuddly, and tasty. ;-)

(PS - Some of you Red Sox folks need a sense of humor, BTW. At least Will Pitt has that. This is all in good fun anyway, so a few of the vein-poppers above are just bizarre...they can only be explained by the resentment of the little lambs, really).
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:02 AM
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35. One question.
If the Yankees win, will every Red Sox fan on these boards be gracious? I suspect not, as not every Red Sox fan has been gracious on the boards, thus far. Perhaps a few Yankee fans have been a bit nastier than the few Sox fans who push the envelope. Perhaps not. But elements of grace and ugliness exist within both fan bases. They exist within all fan bases.

Regardless of who wins, I suspect that some (on the losing side) will hide, some will get ugly, but many will gracefully acknowledge their congratulations to the fans of the victorious team. This has been my experience in the past. I hope I don't see a big change from that.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:33 AM
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38. Most Red Sox Fans HAVE Been pretty gracious on DU
unfortunately, the Yankee fans have lived up to their arrogant reputation. Many of us Sox fans have been labeled animals, morons, Republicans, and losers-nothing like generalizing about a whole region. I love NY, respect the Yankees as a team, dislike Steinbrenner (as do many Yankee fans) and want to see my team do well. The nastiness and personal attacks are unwarranted-can we please save the venom for the neo-cons and freepers?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:14 AM
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44. Umm.
Again, the nastiness and labeling seems to come from a vile few, not from the majority of DU Yankee fans. Let's not generalize where generalizations aren't warranted. That only allows us to fall to the level of the nasties.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:20 AM
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45. You've been a voice of reason, HuckleB, and not on the receiving end
Look at the people who have stirred the pot and started negative threads. With few exceptions, it's been the Yankee fans.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:29 AM
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46. I agree...
...that the majority of nastiness has come from Yankee fans, though they are not alone by any means. I still maintain that this ugliness comes from a few vehement trollers and not the majority of fans. I haven't been able to count more than five or six supposed Yankee fan posters in the nasty category, which is why I'm sticking to the "mean minority" theory.

Anyway, just to note it, in case it needs noting: I'm not a Yankee fan. After all, I'm a midwest boy who was brought up right. ;) I do admit that I like many of the current lot of everyday players on the Yankees (no, not Giambi), but I have no dog in the ALCS. I am a baseball fan, however, and dearly appreciate the current series. Hmm. Blah. Blah. Blah.

Besides, I'm focusing all my energy on hope for a dominating victory by Mark Prior and the Cubs this evening.

Cheers!
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:35 PM
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50. Go Cubbies!
If I see that idiot Ivan Rodriguez pointing to heaven one more time after a big play, I'll :puke:. This ain't the NFL, for chrissakes. Curse Ivan Rodriguez and curse the Florida Marlins for bringing that stupid public praying shit to baseball!

Yes, I know there are a couple of Cubs who do it, but from what I've seen, they at least do it discreetly.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:03 AM
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36. If The Red Sox Win...
Yankee fans will start praying because the end of the world is nigh!
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:10 AM
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37. This Yankee fan is accustomed to defeat...
even though expectations are high, as they are every year. Personally, I fear more the result of losing (a Steinbrenner tantrum) than actually losing.

George will most likely dump Torre if he does not deliver this year. The rest of the coaching staff will follow, except Willie Randolph and Lee Mazzili...maybe.
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RoonShark Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:35 AM
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40. Red Sox Come Crashing to Earth
It's pretty heady stuff beating the Yankees in close games in a championship series. The awareness is going to come crashing down on the Red Sox as they drop the next two. Better luck next year, guys

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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:41 AM
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41. Don't Count on It-Close Games, Evenly Matched Teams
The Sox bats have been cold, and the Yankee starting pitchers aren't what they used to be-Clemens and Pettite being the exceptions. We can hit Wells usually-he HATES Fenway for that reason-so don't count them out yet.

The Yankees are only batting .194 this series, and the Sox a measley .264. They love Wells' fastball.
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HPLeft Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:52 AM
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43. I'd like to think that the more enlightened ones are here on DU...
The typical Red Sox troll over at the Yankee usenet group (alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees) appears to be a member of the Aryan Nation or Ann Coulter's love slave. I can't believe that there are that many people in MA who have such nasty political views - which may say more about the nature of trolls than Red Sox fans in general.

As for Yankees fans (which I've been one since 1966), I assume that they'll be plenty pissed if they lose. But, hopefully, the ones at DU will be gracious and wish the Red Sox fans luck. Personally, I think that any state with the wisdom to vote for George McGovern in 1972 deserves a Baseball World Series win!

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:12 PM
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48. Cheer for the Cubbies, IF they get in. . .
n/t

:evilgrin:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:21 PM
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49. I'll Cheer for the Cubbies Except if they Play the Sox
;-)
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:43 PM
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54. sadistic kick #3
:evilgrin:
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:50 PM
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55. To quote a famous Yankee...
it ain't over 'til it's over. The Sox have shown guts and lots of team spirit in this post-season as the A's can attest.

Doesn't look good however... Go Sox!
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 06:52 PM
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57. To quote Yoda - poor Redsox
Cannot get their ship out
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