Buncha Yankee pitchers are on their way to court on assault charges

[WilliamPitt]

I cannot FUCKING BELIEVE I am not in Boston for this.

Fun scenario: They win tonight, and I am landing in Boston at 4:30 tomorrow. By the time I clear customs and get a cab, a good portion of the game will be over. We win the thing, and I miss it completely.

Worse scenario: They lose tonight. I am landing in Boston at 4:30 tomorrow. By the time I clear customs and get a cab, a good portion of the game will be over. I will be dying in line, wondering.

I think I can wastch the game tonight, though. The Sky TV guide thing says its on. Ahhhh...

Go Sox. Zimmer had it coming. Bunch of the other Yankees are gonna be in court, no matter who wins. Pin stripes to prison stripes, just like John Gotti.

Yankees might face assault charges
ESPN.com

October 14 2003

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2003/news/story?id=1637683

BOSTON -- Boston authorities investigating Saturday's bullpen fight during Game 3 of the ALCS reportedly will seek summonses Tuesday in order to charge Yankees Jeff Nelson and Karim Garcia with assault and battery.

The Washington Post, citing two sources familiar with the case, reported the story in its Tuesday editions.

Detective William Dunn and officer Michael Pankievich will go before a clerk magistrate in Roxbury District Court and present their evidence, according to The Post's report. If the summonses are granted based on that evidence, Nelson and Garcia might be charged in an attack on Red Sox grounds crew worker Paul Williams.

A copy of the police report, which was posted on The Boston Globe's Web site, stated that Nelson "was observed pushing/grabbing the victim in the chest area at which time both parties fell to the ground where Jeff Nelson began punching and flaring his legs at the victim." The report also stated that several other members of the Yankees bullpen "jumped on the victim," and right fielder Garcia jumped the outfield wall, entered the bullpen and began "striking down at the victim with his left hand."

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Zimmer got dropped like third period French because he went for Pedro Martinez's face. He got off light; I don't care how old you are, if you go for my eyes, your arm is broken. Pedro took care of business with exactly the level of respect shown to Zimmer that Zimmer had shown to Pedro by trying to punch him in the face. More, actually.

Buncha Yankees gang-stomped a Fenway groundskeeper. It was several against one. Punk-ass fuckers. I kinda hope the Yankess do win this series. It'll be fun watching them handle the Cubs while half the pitching staff gets indicted for gang-assaulting a lone groundskeeper whose connection to the unfolding game that night was the grass it was being played on. These Yankees couldn't get to Pedro, so they stomped on some poor slob instead.

Punk-ass fuckers.

[GOPisEvil]

1. Karim Garcia got himself hurt, too.

Does it all seem worthwhile now?

[WilliamPitt]

3. Actually, no

But this one really pisses me off. A fucking groundskeeper. Did Garcia injure himself while punching Williams? Poor baby.

[GOPisEvil]

46. I think he hurt himself jumping the wall, actually.

I was listening to the game on the radio, and the announcer (Jon Miller, ESPN) stated he wasn't in the lineup due to an injured left hand, hurt while climbing the wall to get into the fisticuffs.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. David Wells hurt himself too!

running up the steps at the start of the brawl he pinched his groin! HA HA HA!!! Is he outta shape or what?

[markses]

2. "Bleat Bleat!" cries the little lamb

"Revenge," the lambs mutter, endlessly...

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[WilliamPitt]

12. That was a good one, though

I actually liked it. :)

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[Kathy in Cambridge]

48. I'm kidding

you are kinda weird, though...

[WilliamPitt]

11. This ain't nuthin

I was in London when England tied Turkey 0-0 in a preliminary qualifying game. You should have seen the newspapers. All of them. Front and back. If Winston Churchill came back to life and brought the Queen the head of Osama bin Laden, he would not get the savage, lavish praise that was heaped on a bunch of soccer players who didn't score a point in the game. They didn't lose, and the newspapers called them OUR BRAVES and HEROES in 80 pt. headlines. The text was absolutely insane. No holds were barred in the way the Turkish team was described. From what I could glean, Turkey had it coming.

English football fandom makes American baseball fandom look quaint. Nice. Cuddly. Apt not to start a riot.

[catzies]

23. This thread was worth clicking on just for what you said in that post!

If Winston Churchill came back to life and brought the Queen the head of Osama bin Laden...

Go Sox!!!!

[WoodrowFan]

4. let me guess

Red Sox fan. Guess I shouldn't mention ED ARMBRUSTER then, or TRYING TO SNEAK A BLOOPER PITCH PAST TONY PEREZ!!! heh heh



Actually, i am hoping for a Sox-Cubs series. Gawd, I HATE the yankees!!!

[soleft]

7. Um...they did get to Pedro. In fact, IIRC, they beat him

[SpiralHawk]

8. OK, so what is the whole alleged story

Did the Yankee players bait or harass the groundskeeper, and then hit him first? I mean, what is supposed to have happened.

They made only the vaguest references to this incident on the Fox Sports broadcast of Game 4.

so what gives?


"I think the American people--I hope the American--I don't think, let me--I hope the American people trust me."
- George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

[WilliamPitt]

14. Can you come up with a scenario

That explains this rationally? Did you read the story? The groundskeeper cheered once for the Sox while he was in the Yankee bullpen doing his job. Breach of etiquette, apparently. They beat the shit out of him for it. There are actual assault laws that apply to sports games, regardless of the commissioner's interpretation.

[StaggerLee]

9. Will, like I said in a post the night of game 4

Don Zimmer had no business being on the field to begin with. He needs to keep his happy ass in the dugout. Period. Safer for him. Safer for everyone.
I think Pedro did what anyone in their right mind would have. Period.
(notice that none of the Yankees went after Pedro after he pushed Zim down? That speaks volumes about the situation)
As for the attack on the groundskeeper: If this is true then it is beyond any Punkicity that Pedro demonstrated when he pointed at his head. Period.

Ok- PLAY BALL!

Marcos-

[realFedUp]

10. Pedro wasn't exactly an innocent bystander...

I'm rooting for the Red Sox, but there is blame on
both sides.

[HuckleB]

13. Please! Stop!

We've been down this road too many times already. No more repeats! I'm begging you all!

[WilliamPitt]

16. I've been out of the loop

I just heard about this. I'm pissed off. Don't click the thread.

[LynneSin]

15. All sports teams should do what the Philadelphia Eagles do

We know our fans are rude, crude and obnoxious to the point of endangering others at the game. So we set up Eagle Court in the basement of our stadium with a real live judge who will hand out the sentences right on the spot.

Think I'm kidding?

http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/january/m011703i.htm

(rumor has it the fans have been more well-behaved since the team moved from the Vet to Linc Field)

[DS1]

17. Relax, Will, we've hired a Designated Groundskeeper...

[WilliamPitt]

22. Ha!!!

Awesome. Agh. Doontoon.

[Sandpiper]

18. I think the only thing worse than Republicans

Are the Boston Red Sux and their whiny fans. First your punk pitcher goes nuts because he's getting hammered and can't take it. Then your punk groundskeeper starts waving a towel in Nelson's face and gets what he has coming. So, like any good Red Sux fan, you start to whine and cry. If Boston was as good at winning as they are at whining, they'd have 26 championships too.

1918

nuff said.

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[Sandpiper]

24. What's the matter?

Are you suffering from Yankee envy too?

[HuckleB]

21. OK, Will, I won't click the thread again.

But posts like the one I just replied to are the norm on this topic. Besides, there is much to be played out on the matter. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, and since Nelson and Garcia likely won't see a courtroom for a month or so, I'll stick to baseball for now.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

25. And You Are? Nice Introduction to DU, Pal.

Yes, Pedro got hammered. The Red Sox lost by a WHOLE RUN! :crazy:

I was at the game, pal. Zimmer came at Pedro. My seasons tickets seats are behind the opposing team's dugout.

Nice generalization-condemning a whole fandom and whole region. I notice you're from California-the state that was stupid enough to elect the Governator.

You've made quite the splash winning friends and influencing people here...welcome to DU-NOT!

[Sandpiper]

32. Yes, they only lost by a run

But the inning when Pedro lost his marbles, he was getting tattooed.

I never said Pedro didn't have the right to defend himself from Zimmer. Zim had no business trying to take a swing at a player.

And yes, Red Sox fans are whiny.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

35. Red Sox fans are whiny.? Yankee fans aren't?

you should hear my Yankee-fan friends whine about Posada hitting low balls, Bernie Williams' shitty arm, and other woes. The glass is half-empty here in the Northeast-we have complaining elevated to an art form.

However, generalizing about a fan base is stupid. I'm happy the Sox got this far.

edited for spelling

[Sandpiper]

33. By the way

Speaking of governors. Isn't conservative, mormon republican Mitt Romney the governor of Massachusetts?

[StopTheMorans]

34. yep

but at least he doesn't make the kind of brash, arrogant, completely unwarranted, and moranic statements that bloomberg does.

[Sandpiper]

38. no argument here

Bloomberg is a doofus. But, as you can see from my Cali flag, I don't reside in NY. I was merely responding to the jab about California having elected Ahnuld governor.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

37. Yep, and the Rest of Mass is SOLIDLY DEMOCRAT

No Repukes in the Senate or the House. two or three in the State Senate and House.

Romney can't get anything done. The Democrat machine blocks him at every turn.

[Sandpiper]

41. And the rest of Cali

Is solidly democrat. Feinstein, Boxer and a majority in the state legislature. Thankfully since the good guys outnumber the bad guys in Sacramento, the governator won't be able to do too much damage.

Unfortunately, Ahnuld can always go the route of appealing to the mob via voter initiatives. Hopefully the voters will have woken from their drunken stupor before it comes to that.

In Cali, voters were dazzled by Ahnuld's celebrity. How the heck did Romney ever get the governor's mansion in a state like Mass?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

42. By running Negative Ads against Shannon O'Brien

and labeling her with typical sexist pejoratives. We have had a Repuke governor since Weld, but they have been more liberal than most Democrats. This is the first 'moderate' Republican to hold the governorship. He is an ass.

[Sandpiper]

44. And I am

A west coast dem, though not a west coaster by birth. In my life I've called the east coast, south, midwest, and west coast home.

When it comes to baseball though, I should tell you, I cheer for two teams: The Yankees, and whoever is playing the Red Sox.

[Loonman]

50. Zimmer had it coming

Who the shit does he think he is? Rocky 72?

You come at me like you're going to punch me or grab my neck, you're goin' down. I don't care if you're 18 or 82, yer chowin' dirt.

Nelson is a known homophobe and has been sent up for harassing a gay guy in the Yankees Org.

The amount of brains between the Yankees and their fans have still comes up a negative number.

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[WilliamPitt]

30. Thanks for proving my point about class.

Fish. Barrel. Boom.

[WoodrowFan]

36. FISH GUTS EVERYWHERE

Frankly WillPitt, any team founded after 1869 is just an Expansion Team., 8-)

[Forkboy]

39. Only a Yankees fan

would consider stomping some guy fitting for waving a towel :eyes:

[Braden]

43. trolling some

waving a towel warrants a criminal assault? Where do you live? Attica?

[Meowser]

19. SF TV Reported They Delaying Charges until after the ALCS

as not to interfere with the series. I really hope those two Yankees end up in court-their actions were dispicable and completely unprofessional.

[monkeyboy]

26. F**cking sports fans, yer all nuts

Nothing but a bunch of monkeys screeching at each other over a ball rolling around on the ground. Get a grip. ;-)

[Throckmorton]

27. Please Will, I suspect your holding something back,

tell us how you really feel.

Remember, Uncle Bloomy says if the Zimmer verse Pedro thing had happened in NYC, there would be arrests.

[WilliamPitt]

28. Self-defense and gang-stomping

Yep. Lotsa similarities there.

[StopTheMorans]

31. uncle bloomy is a damn idiot Republican hack

and his comments about Menino and the sox after Menino had said "let's just get back to baseball" were ridiculous, the guy is a world-class idiot, and NYC can have him.

[Throckmorton]

49. Yes, as was pointed out the other day, he is neither a Lawyer,

nor is he a Law Enforcment Officer, he is just a Billionare who bought an election.

And, curse you Bucky Dent!!!!

[DS1]

40. There are no arrests in NYC, only empty clips

with an occasional sighting of plunger.

[catmandu57]

45. Too bad they didn't jug both of them

right then and there, let em out next january.
edit: the yankees I mean.

[newyorican]

51. Sadistic kick #2

:evilgrin: BTW, misdemeanor at the most which = $fine$. BFD.