Holy Joe hates Rock n Roll!

[joeybee12]

A little snippet from a gossip column--I'm also concerned that Al Sharpton likes Michael Jackson. He should have said Donna Summer if he wanted to go three for three with African-Americans!

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No. 3: Piss off the editors of magazines read by people you'd like to have like you. This one goes out to Sen. Joe Lieberman, who alone among the Democratic presidential hopefuls refused to respond to Blender magazine's survey of the candidates' pop-music predilections. Candidates were asked to name their favorite artists and favorite Beatle, as well as whom they'd like to have perform at their inaugural ball. Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (loves Wyclef Jean and George Harrison), Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry (likes the Rolling Stones, the Grateful Dead and John Lennon, and wants Moby at his inaugural ball), North Carolina Sen. John Edwards (admires Bruce Springsteen but would book John Mellencamp for his ball), Carol Mosely Braun (a Keith Jarrett fan), Dennis Kucinich (loves all of the Beatles), Dick Gephardt (digs Eric Clapton and Paul McCartney) and Al Sharpton (big into James Brown, Michael Jackson and the late Sam Cooke) all found the time to respond to Blender. But Lieberman apparently couldn't be bothered. "I don't want to make too much of it," snipped editor Craig Marks. "but I'd venture a guess that Lieberman is the least sympathetic toward the popular culture, and the least sympathetic to rock 'n' roll and pop music." There goes the young-people vote.

[Wickerman]

1. Time for Joe to see the handwriting on the wall

this just ain't your year. I sympathize with a candidate that stays in the race just further expose his platform, but I don't see enough novelity in his campaign to justify him hanging on. Seems like a waste of oxygen on a crowded stage and a waste of ink on limited newsprint.

[XNASA]

2. It's obvious now, why I can't relate to Gephardt.

EC and Macca. Coupla wankers.

[SweetZombieJesus]

4. Heh heh, my thoughts exactly.

Especially EC. Funny, I didn't realize God was a lifeless blues robot with no soul and a penchant for writing exploitative shit songs about their dead son.

[XNASA]

8. Well put, SZJ.

A son who was the product of too much jet-setting and nailing international super-models, then was left with the nanny for long undetermined periods of time.

[SweetZombieJesus]

11. Still, I bet the kid would have grown up to be a great musician

If he exhibited even 1 percent more soul than his father, he'd have been a vast improvement.

I just don't get why people go so nuts for the guy. Yeah, he can sound just like Buddy Guy, so why not JUST LISTEN TO BUDDY GUY? Why would I want to listen to an insipid Englishman play the blues he heard from old blues records when I can just listen to the old blues records?

Layla was the only good album he ever had anything to do with, and that was arranged by Duane Allman, who was always more fun to listen to than Clapton.

[MnFats]

12. lay off Slowhand, you guys.

he is brilliant.
i just wish Duane Allman had been around to make a second record with him.

[SweetZombieJesus]

15. Being able to imitate real blues musicians doesn't make you brilliant

Talented, yes. God? Not even close. I could name about fifty guitarists I find more soulful, and who are more influential than Clapton.

Personally, I've always thought Jeff Beck suffered in Clapton's shadow among British blues guitarists. I've always preferred him to Clapton, even at his most self-indulgent.

[XNASA]

16. Was brilliant. For a little while. In 1970.

But after that.......nada.

Plus he stole George Harrison's wife. Then dumped her too.

He's an over-rated simpleton.

Quick, name 5 good songs that Clapton wrote when he was in Cream.

[Loyal]

22. That is fucking sick SZJ

Ripping on Clapton like that. he did not exploit his son's death.

[SweetZombieJesus]

26. I'd say writing a song about it and then filming a weepy video to further

his sagging career is exploitation. Maybe you and I just have different dictionaries.

[BurtWorm]

3. I heard he liked Sid Vicious

No wait...that was Frank Sinatra's version of "My Way" he liked.

Never mind.

[LynneSin]

5. Who is Keith Jarrett?

Please advise?

:shrug:

[XNASA]

9. He's a jazz pianist.

I think.

[Wickerman]

14. yes, a brilliant jazz pianist

he really shines in his solo improvision. He also ventures into classical.

[mitchum]

34. Mosely Braun would get my vote just on her exquisite taste

[SweetZombieJesus]

6. If Edwards likes Springsteen, why go for the off-brand Springsteen?

Everyone knows John Mellencamp is just Springsteen for dummies.

[joeybee12]

7. Yeah, I used to think that, but since John is so anti-Dumbo now,

I'll hold my tongue!

[SweetZombieJesus]

10. I like his anti-Dumbo views, but he's still the poor man's Boss

Like it or not, it's true.

[Khephra]

17. Two different vibes entirely

The Boss is all about growing up/living in an urban environment in his storytelling/songwriting whereas John M is definitely about coming from a rural small-town. I may be an Indiana boy, but I can't get into the Boss. John, however, speaks more to my experiences.

[SweetZombieJesus]

23. I'm from rural Nebraska, and I can't relate to Mellencamp at all

No man who wrote "R-O-C-K In The USA" gets anything but derision from me.

[Khephra]

25. Well....REM wrote "Stand" and "Shiny Happy People"

But I forgive them for that.

:evilgrin:

[SweetZombieJesus]

28. Dude, those songs are deliberately bad in a campy fun way

R-O-C-K In The USA is just bad bad. Not to mention that god damned Little Pink Houses song.

Mellencamp basically took Springsteen's urban tales and replaced the buses and subways with tractors and pickup trucks.

[Khephra]

33. We agree enough on everything else

We can agree to disagree on this one.

;-)

Campy? I refer to that as REM's Xtasy days. ;-)

(not really, but that whole cd gave me the feel of something that an X-Head would like)

[JohnKleeb]

13. Kucinich likes Polka too

:D

[Wickerman]

18. shhh, JK, don't want to say that too loud

:)

[JohnKleeb]

20. Hey we get the Slav vote with that

and I am a goddamned Slav and proud. Yeah I am part Irish too.

[Wickerman]

30. Sorry, I am in Minnesota and hear waaaay too much polka

Not ripping on your heritage but I sure as hell am ripping on the slav music. At least the conjunto music in Texas used the accordian, they didn't dress in the silly costumes.

[JohnKleeb]

32. only half lol

Its ok. Its a broad term actually and lol I hear Cleveland is big on it, I am Slovak and Slovenian, arent a lot of them Russians? Paul Wellstone was I know. BTW lol a claim to fame I can have as a Slovak and Slovene is that Dubya mixed up my countries, I am also Irish and German heh. Dont worry about it luna lol, I didnt take anything personal but heh.

[Wickerman]

36. Yeah, but Wellstone migrated to MN

Wish I could say from where but I can't recall at the moment. Hey, I am Irish and German, too. Actually got a little Scotch to boot. I used to say that I was a mean (G), cheap (S), drunk (I), but that only perpetuates the stereotypes, dontcha know? Ooops, Minnesota leaking out. I actually do like a little oompah music, but don't tell anyone.

[JohnKleeb]

42. I know exactly where

Arlington, Virginia. I got a neat story about that too, I am Catholic and my dad as a kid went to Catholic schools, my uncle who was Wellstone's age would have gone to Yorktown high with Paul had he not gone to Bishop O'Connell. I thought he was born in MN and grew up in Arlington though. lol heh. I always joke with people make something up about the Slovaks and Slovenes, you have nothing :) hehe, thats mean lol my dad who is the German and Irish is a Mean Drunk and lol he is mean when he is drunk. The sterotypes are annoying especially when WASPy Bush lol drinks more than the Irish Kennedy, well I dont know if Jack was a drunk or not,

[Wickerman]

53. just had a little issue with pain killers, I believe

but he earned it (war and all - no cysts for him) and it was before awareness, really - and all were legitimately prescribed.

[Fenris]

19. I'll bet Wes Clark really digs the Jesus and Mary Chain

:D

I'll tell you, the first candidate to come out and say they like early British punk rock has my vote. How 'bout some variety, people! Or hell, if they like 80s goth and mope-rock bands, that's cool too. Or if they really dig Sonic Youth. Or the Byrds or any other mid-popularity sixties group (and double bonus points if they like the Sonics, Love, or anyone whose song appeared on Nuggets).

[SweetZombieJesus]

21. I'd settle for someone liking The Ramones

That wouldn't be too outrageous, would it?

Or hell, I'd even like it if someone said they liked Neil Young. It's cool that Kerry namechecked the Stones and the Dead though.

[Fenris]

24. No shit!

Ramones or Neil Young...come on candidates...admit it!

[Khephra]

27. Lou Reed!

I want a President who is into Reed.

Or maybe Iggie Pop. That would be too cool.

:evilgrin:

[SweetZombieJesus]

29. Too bad it'll never happen

I want a President who's into the Flamin Groovies, but I know that'll never happen. Hell, I'll settle for a girlfriend who's at least heard of them.

[Khephra]

37. Think we could get a Bowie fan in the WH?

Or would that be toooo...daring?

[mitchum]

39. Well, Clinton did invite Lou and the missus to the White House for a Havel

reception. And they went. I don't know which is weirder; Lou Reed at the White House, or the phrase "Lou and the missus"

[SweetZombieJesus]

43. That was just because of Havel's huge love for the VU though, wasn't it?

Velvet Revolution and everything.

[mitchum]

46. Also because Bill really digs "Metal Machine Music"

saying "Sister Ray" would have just been a cheap Leno quality joke

[Wickerman]

47. he has it on 8 track

and it never ends... 00

[SweetZombieJesus]

49. That's impossible. No one likes Metal Machine Music

Not even Lou.

Mitchum, I have a sneaking suspicion that you're Rob Mitchum, reviewer for Pitchfork Media. Am I completely batshit, or am I right?

[mitchum]

51. SWJ, Who is this Rob Mitchum? Is he another fan of manly...

anti-perspirant/deoderant solids?
Naw, honestly, that's not me.

[Wickerman]

31. I'll give bonus points to any candidate who can say what Nuggets was.

[geniph]

35. I want a candidate who admits to admiring Frank Zappa

Warren Zevon, the B-52s, the Ramones - music with humor and a bite to it.

Get brave, y'all!

(Wonder if Graham would have said Jimmy Buffett - since Buffett was supporting him - or Tom Petty, as he's a native Floridian?)

[Khephra]

38. Petty wouldn't be too bad

He's pissed off enough of the time to make it an interesting choice.

[Rabrrrrrr]

54. I always said that if President, I'd be having Zappa over A LOT

to the White House. Too had he had to up and die.

Now I'll have to have Pink Floyd jamming away in full volume from the Rose Garden every Thursday evening.

Inaugaral ball would be Sabbath, followed by Rush, followed by Floyd. (and I just realized they are none of them Americans - oops!). The first White House performance would be Philip Glass, then Steve Reich, then Meredith Monk, and then I'll go from there I know not where.

Oh, and the inaugaration ceremonies will be designed, arranged, and "conducted" by Robert Wilson.

[mitchum]

40. Not to defend Holy Joe, but maybe he just hates Blender

Come on, it's a shit magazine

[SweetZombieJesus]

44. Yeah, but he wouldn't do it if it was a good magazine either

But I agree, Blender is fucking horrible.

[NightTrain]

41. As a lifelong Connecticut resident who has...

...followed Lieberman's career, I can say for certain that he is a complete pop-culture philistine!

[mitchum]

48. Isn't "pop culture philistine" redundant?

[NightTrain]

52. Only to a white-bread elitist -- Holy Joe, for example.

n/t

[joeybee12]

50. Agree--I'm originally from CT

Also, he doesn't appear to have surrounded himself with any people who are in touch at all, or else they would have said, fill this in, it couldn't hurt.

[CBHagman]

45. But's a conjecture by one person

And it's hardly the most pressing issue we have. I mean, the fact that we'll never see Cheney getting down with his bad self has didn't play a role in getting him that house at the Naval Observatory. A bunch of loud, obnoxious, sign-waving members of the GOP did, as did the butterfly ballots and those weasels named Harris and Bush.

However, to our sorrow and horror, we have seen Bush getting down with his bad self. It was quite the simian performance, I thought. :-)

[bushclipper]

55. It's a generational thing...

I didn't like much of anything once Elvis went into the army.