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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:06 AM
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Who is the most overrated Democratic politician?
We all know that Reagan was a fraud, but how about if we look within?

Who do you think has a much better reputation than deserved in our own party?
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sirshack Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:07 AM
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1. My vote...
Howard Dean

(sheilds face and runs for cover....)
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:09 AM
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2. probably
JFK or RFK

It's a lot easier to look like a saint when you die young.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:12 AM
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3. I agree
JFK=Cut tax on the rich
RFK=Went after working folks standard of living
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:38 AM
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13. What's wrong with a tax-cut to the rich?
No seriously.

The Republican line has for 40 years been perpetual tax cuts to the rich because they're the solution to all the world's ills. Obviously that's bogus. The Democratic vision has been much more nuanced. Sometimes taxes need to be lowered, other times they need to be raised. It all has to do with what the economy requires when.

What Kennedy recognized in 1960 were that taxes were indeed too high and they were stifling economic growth. Today the reverse is true - taxes on the wealthy are suboptimal, and because of the resulting harm to government, again we see stifled economic growth. Don't let Republicans carictature the Democratic Party as the party of tax increases - because we're not. We simply believe in a pragmatic approach to taxation and not a simple panacea of always trying to defund and therefore destroy government.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:08 PM
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19. Well said, Mobuto. nt
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:13 AM
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4. Sen Byrd
highly over-rated on DU
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:15 AM
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5. The mayor of Vermont, Howard Dean.
Vermont has less people than 50 major metro areas and has virtually no minorities.
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:19 AM
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6. If the number of African Americans you represent is
proportional to your empathy for racial matters, Trent Lott would be MLK Jr. (or something like that).
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:32 AM
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11. Southerners are really going to listen to Dean about race.
What a joke.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:50 AM
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7. This being DEMOCRATIC Underground, why would You
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 10:51 AM by Kerryfan
ask such a question ?

I really want to know, why ?


And on second thought, why would anyone here answer it ?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:51 AM
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8. maybe because
We'd get more interesting answers.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:54 AM
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9. Maybe because eating our own is helpful to our side
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:11 AM
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10. I refuse to participate
in such a survey.............. :thumbsdown:
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:37 AM
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12. Yawn
n/t
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:45 AM
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14. Tom Daschle
The 2002 elections were a nightmare, and Daschle has not learned from them. He is a "get along to go along" politician, at a time when our nation is in grave danger from the most radical administration in our history. Others on this thread won't name names. I will. Okay, he's the highest ranking Dem. Take the heat and FIGHT BACK, Tom. NO MORE 2002.
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felonious thunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:00 PM
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15. My mistake
This was based on the other thread about the most overrated politician. I thought it might be interesting to see if we had the ability to look inward and make reasoned cases why someone in our party might once have been fallible. Though many answers did that, apparently I was wrong.

I didn't realize that I was dividing the party by asking what I thought was an interesting question. I didn't realize we'd need to do the fucking pointless candidate bashing here. And I didn't realize that I was suddenly a horrible person for asking that we look at our own history and learn lessons from it.

Thanks though, for letting me know that Dean is a joke because he's not southern and that I'm a fucking asshole for asking what I believed to be a thought provoking question.

Fuck off.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:11 PM
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20. Your welcome. nt
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:02 PM
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16. Does Terry McAuliffe count?
He's kind of a politician--a piss-poor one at that.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:26 PM
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17. Hillary
I like her ,but....
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:23 PM
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22. agreed
I don't even like her. Just another DLC shill as far as I'm concerned. If she entered the race she'd be my second to last pick after Lieberman.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:21 PM
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23. Tie between Gephart and Hillary
Both worthless, as far as I can tell.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 12:28 PM
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18. Why am I the first one to mention Holy Joe????????????????
I thought it would be obvious!!!!!!!!!
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:23 PM
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21. who overrates him?
n/t
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