Rate My Pain: Which is worse?

[WilliamPitt]

Poll question: Rate My Pain: Which is worse?

[MrBenchley]

1. Just don't send your housekeeper

out to score....

Condolences...but what a helluva game!

[THUNDER HANDS]

2. As Bill Clinton said

I feel your pain, Will.

(bites lower lip)

:)

[GOPisEvil]

3. The hangover will be gone sooner.

Have some coffee and a donut. :donut:

[ScreamingMeemie]

4. After all, Will, there is always next year...

Right? It's what keeps you coming back. Now take two aspirin, pretend the whole thing was a horrendous nightmare, and go to sleep. :-)

[chiburb]

5. Will, a question...

Your opinion, please, as to whether a manager should listen to a pitcher say "leave me in", or go by the evidence in front of him. I realize that Pedro is a special case, but I think Baker made the same mistake with Prior in game 6 of the NLCS (and corrected himself with Wood the next night).

[matcom]

9. GRADY LITTLE SHOULD HAVE HIS HOUSE BURNED DOWN

for that 'decision'

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM FOR LETTING PEDRO TAKE THE MOUND IN THE 8TH!

NOMOTHERFUCKINGWAY!

[chiburb]

15. Yes, but...

How do you really feel?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

23. You should be listening to the rants on sports radio this morn

People want his head.

I am so sad I can't even talk about it yet...

[LynneSin]

30. Maybe Grady should flee to the "Jim Fergosi Memorial Halfway House....

.....for managers who make really bonehead decisions in important playoff games"

Although I'm suprised Jim did come back to manage the Phillies a few more years after that Williams/Carter incident. Seems Philadelphia wanted Mitch William's balls on a platter more than they wanted Jim Fergosi's

[SlavesandBulldozers]

6. imagine

that hangover being there since 1908.

[VelmaD]

7. Poor baby

:hug:

Gotta agree with some of the previous posters. Take some aspirin, get some rest, maybe have yourself a good cry to get it outta your system, and then just remember - Spring training starts in 4 more months. :-)

[truebrit71]

8. Having just suffered a similar fate here in Chicago Will..

I feel for you man....On both counts!!

[DinahMoeHum]

10. Methinks Aaron Boone has replaced Bucky Dent. . .

as the Red Sox's worst nightmare.

The alcoholic hangover passes quickly, though.

Have another coffee and donut.

:donut:

[GOPisEvil]

12. Let's get those names right....

That's Bucky F***in' Dent and Aaron F***in' Boone.

Carry on.

[birdman]

14. Older Sox fans remember

Enos F***in' Slaughter in '46.

Not to mention Johnny F***in' Pesky and Bill F***in' Buckner.

[GOPisEvil]

16. Well, I'm a Cardinals fan so I have to disagree with Mr. Slaughter.

Although he was a fairly rampant racist, so maybe it fits after all. (Sigh.)

What about The Immortal Denny Galehouse?

Will the grandson of David Halberstam write a book about the Summer of 2003? :D

[birdman]

19. I had forgotten Galeshouse

I don't think he ever threw another pitch after losing
to the Indians in that '48 playoff game.

[GOPisEvil]

21. He appeared in 2 games in 1949.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/galehde01.shtml

Mel Parnell should have gotten the start that day.

[birdman]

11. The hangover will go away

I've had numerous hangovers but they're gone.

But I'm still carrying around Joe Carter, the
'64 Phillies and Super Bowl XV.

It would have almost been better if the Sox (and
Cubs) had lost four straight. At least their fans
wouldn't have gotten so close only to have it snatched
away at the last second.

Doris Kearns Goodwin (Sox fan extraordinaire) was on Imus
this morning saying how the Sox had had a great summer and
a great post-season run and then admitted that it was all
just a rationalization.

[kodi]

13. unless you had series tickets for the Phillies in 1964, you aint felt pain

me and my dad did. 3rd base, box seats, twenty rows up. we still greave.

[birdman]

17. Some people still have those tickets

They were sold after the crash as part of a charity
promotion and you can still see them framed in some homes and
small businesses in the Philly area.

It remains the single most devastating sports event in the city's history.

[LynneSin]

31. I know 64 was bad, but geez I would think 1993 was even worse

I mean, you had a chance at winning the World Series and Fergosi left Williams in the game. Then again, I was only a twinkle in 1964 whereas I had to deal with all those miserable Phillies fans in 93

:shrug:

[GOPisEvil]

18. Chico Ruiz of the Reds...stole home, and turned that year around.

The Phils went on that long losing streak, and (admittedly MY) Cardinals couldn't stop winning. David Halberstam wrote a book about October 1964 as well.

I wasn't born yet, but my parents went to Busch Stadium in 1965. They got beer glasses commemorating the World Series win in 1964. Embossed autographs of the team. Not plastic cups, GLASSES. I was given one, and it broke when workmen pounding on the outside of my house knocked it off a shelf. Thank GOD for eBay. :-)

[birdman]

20. Chico Ruiz

was the player who stole home (with two outs and fucking
Frank Robinson at bat in a 0-0 game no less). I was
in high school just outside Philly that fall.

[GOPisEvil]

22. I'll edit my line - thanks!

:-)

[kodi]

26. The Horror. The Horror.

"For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are those 'It might have been.'"

joh greenlef whittier

[MrBenchley]

25. In many ways the Phillies fans have it worse

There's a mystique about the Sox and Cubs...but the Phillies have a more dismal history and have caused more suffering than either...

[GOPisEvil]

27. True, but Phillies fans have 1980.

I can remember 1980. 1908 and 1918? Yikes.

[tom_paine]

34. Don't forget the 1950 Whiz Kids and the 1983 Wheezy Kids

Of course, both of those lost the Series. In 1950 to the )*^%%$$! Yankees and in 1983 to the Orioles.

[sistersofmercy]

24. Hangover.

Gee, I haven't had a hangover in quite a while, I don't get out much and when I do I'm usually too tired to drink much. After thirty, hangovers are vicious.

[supernova]

28. So sorry your Red Sox

lost last night Will. :-( It really would have been fun to watch 2 teams who haven't been in the WS in well, ..... anyone's memory.

Just keep drinking water today. :hug: to Will and all the RS fans.

[SOteric]

29. Does it feel a little like this...?

I speculate that if the Sox had won, you wouldn't mind the hangover in all it's gruesome glory. So the pain is likely derived entirely from your disappointment in the outcome of the game.

[Don_G]

32. Would This Help Any?

A link to the NY Post article bemoaning the Yankee loss to the Sox.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/postcurse1.html

[tom_paine]

33. I feel for you, Will. I hate those &^%$#@$ Yankees!

It's a damned shame.