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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:54 PM
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What does BBV stand for?
n/t
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:57 PM
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1. BBV = "Black Box Voting"
As in voting machines that don't leave a paper audit trail and have secret code that is "proprietary" and not open to public scrutiny.

See http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 12:58 PM
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2. Thanks
n/t
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:01 PM
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3. and BFEE?
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SkipNewarkDE Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:03 PM
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4. Bush Family Evil Empire
N/T
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:03 PM
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5. BFEE = Bush Family Evil Empire (nt)
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:04 PM
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6. Bush Family Evil Empire
As in the Carlyle Group, Enron, Halliburton and as yet undisclosed financial ties.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:05 PM
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7. Bush Family Evil Empire
Alternate meanings

BBV - Big Butted Vixen

BFEE- Bev's fluffy Ethiopian earrings
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:05 PM
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8. what is LTTE, LIHOP and
why is * used in place of Bush???

Thanks!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:09 PM
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11. Dunno about LTTE
LIHOP: Let It Happen On Purpose (re : the BFEE and 9/11)
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eauclaireliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:13 PM
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12. RE: what is LTTE, LIHOP and
why is * used in place of Bush???

I think that it has something to do with Doonesbury. Trudeau draws G. Dumbass with a cowboy hat and asterisk. His father was drawn just as an asterik, and from what I understand, the point of the * is that it means "The Do-Nothing President"
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Stupdworld Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:58 PM
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14. Alt theory
* means that he wasn't elected by the popular vote. if you look at a list of presidents that is.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:10 PM
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17. LTTE = Letter To The Editor (nt)
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 03:40 PM
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20. It's a kind of baseball reference, too
* is often put after Roger Maris' home run numbers in baseball stats, because he played a different number of games than the former record holder, Babe Ruth. * is also used in some lists of bestsellers to indicate spurious bestsellers - ones that are bought in bulk (like most of the Regnery imprint right-wing screeds) to drive them onto bestseller lists. * indicates someone who holds a record or office under dubious circumstances. Thus, * is * because he was selected, not elected.
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:06 PM
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9. and what are the origins of '86
as in 86 Bush.

thanks again
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:09 PM
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10. It's an old slang term
for thowing someone out. As in eighty-sixing someone from a bar.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 01:14 PM
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13. More than you probably want to know...
This verb meaning "to eject or debar from premises, to reject or
abandon" was previously an expression used by waiters and bartenders
indicating that the supply of an item was exhausted or that a
customer was not to be served. Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase
Origins says: "<...> 86 may well have come from a number code
created by <...> soda fountain clerks <...>. Originally, according
to the American Thesaurus of Slang, it was a password used between
clerks to indicate: 'We're all out of the item ordered.' The
transition from this meaning <...> to the bartender's sense of
'Serve no more because of the shape he's in' is fairly obvious. The
number code developed by soda clerks was very extensive <...>. A
hissed '98' from one soda-popper to another indicated 'The assistant
manager is prowling around. Watch out.' <...> And most cheerful
warning of all, 87 1/2, meaning 'There's a good-looking girl out
front!'"

The earliest clear citation is from the February 1936 issue of
American Speech, which gives the definition "Eighty-six, item on
the menu not on hand." The Random House Historical Dictionary of
American Slang cites a comedy with a date range 1926-35 in which a
waiter gives his number as 86.

AHD3 gives the etymology: "Perhaps after Chumley's bar and
restaurant at 86 Bedford Street in Greenwich Village, New York
City." But most other dictionaries, including MWCD10, suggest that
eighty-six was rhyming slang for "nix". On its AOL message Board,
Merriam-Webster Editorial Department writes: "The etymology we give
at 'eighty-six' is the one we'll stand by. It is our contention
that the address at Chumley's is purely coincidence, and that the
word was developed in rhyming slang, and originally used by
restaurant workers so that the average customer didn't know what
they were talking about.

"The earlier citations for 'eighty-six' <...> do not influence
our decisions about the etymology <...>. In fact, if the first
citation is from the early part of the range, it would tell against
the Chumley's hypothesis, as Chumley's did not exist before 1927-29.
Finally, because slang usually exists in the language for a number
of years before it is recorded, the existence of a citation from the
1920s tells strongly against the Chumley's explanation.

"There are a number of other theories about the origin of the
word: that it originated in the heyday of the British merchant
marine (the standard crew was 85, so that the 86th didn't get to
go); that 86 was the number of the California (or Florida) law that
forbade bartenders to serve the overly intoxicated; and that it
refers to the number of tables (85) at the New York restaurant 21,
and the table (86, in other words, no table) that the undesirable
got. There are more, but the Chumley's theory is the most popular."

"Eighty-six" is attested as a verb meaning "get rid of" from
1955 on. It was surely in reference to this meaning that Maxwell
Smart, the hero of the 1960s sitcom "Get Smart!", was Agent 86
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:09 PM
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15. PNAC What does it stand for?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:10 PM
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16. Project For a New American Century
Neo-con Chickenhawk warmongering

www.newamericancentury.org
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:52 PM
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22. Thank you for an informative responce.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:10 PM
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18. Project for the New American Century
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:54 PM
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23. Thank you too.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 02:13 PM
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19. P-N-A-C stands for
N-A-Z-I

old code
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:52 PM
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21. That is not a informative response.
Since many strong liberal use the word NAZI extremely loosely, to mean any and everything that they disagree with, your response only told me that you donh't like them.
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