Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

It's too late for me to change career paths!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
AquariDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:25 PM
Original message
It's too late for me to change career paths!
Okay, it's my senior year in college, and next spring I will be graduating with a BA in child development. Well, I've been student teaching this fall in a preschool classroom, and I'm having a hard time with the heavily social aspect of the work (helping children solve conflicts, focusing on the child rather than the "rules," etc). It might just be that preschool is not my age group, but...

Just lately, I've been sort of re-visiting my junior-high-school dream of becoming an architect. Math is not my favorite subject, but I love to draw. I've been seeing this picture of myself in an artist's office, surrounded by pens, paper and a computer, busily at work with a protractor while my favorite CDs play in the background. Should I take this thing seriously, or just treat it like the temptation to have an affair when you're married, or something?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
1. You SOB! How dare you be only a college senior!!!!!!
I say go for it. There's plenty of time to go back to child development if you realize that's where you should be. Explore while you're young and have the enrgy and optimism to do so!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #1
17. Oh man
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 12:34 AM by BlackVelvetElvis
If you don't persue what you really want to do now, 10-15 years from now you will rethink everything and then return to school when you have a family/mortgage/life. Do what you really want to NOW. Isn't your brain trying to tell you something?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:31 PM
Original message
It's not too late to change, but it might be too early.
You're almost done with the degree, so you should ask yourself what you thought the work would be like, and then decide whether you can get from here to there over the next several years. There might be some way to get from here to there (perhaps with an Ed.D. or masters, or maybe just by thinking about what you want and trying to go get it).

If you can't, there's always night school. Unfortunately, architecture has a pretty rigorous and idiopathic course sequence at most schools, so you're probably looking at the equivalent of 2.5-3 years of full-time school.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AquariDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
15. That's the thing--would I just repeat
the same thing? Thinking that I want to do something and then getting a little disillusioned by the reality? Well, I just might look into architectural school (when I'm ready to face some more loans). Hey, what does "idiopathic" mean?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:31 PM
Response to Original message
2. Step back, take a deep breath,
and listen to your heart. If your instinct tells you education isn't your career path, back out now (I'm assuming you are not under obligation to teach X number of years in exchange for your education). If you have any electives left, try a drafting class or something like it, to see if architecture is the way to go. Keep your options open. It is never too late to change.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
3. Seems like you've got an awful lot of time invested
to be changing now. But if you aren't going to be happy, you may want to consider it. Life's too short spending it doing something you don't like when you have the power to change it. Like you suggest, it may be possible that you could get along better teaching a different age group, one where the kids have got that early social development out of the way. I know I would hate to spend all that time in college working my tail off only to have to start over, but whatever it takes to get you through.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AquariDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. I might do better with infants/young toddlers
It's still social work, but the conflict resolution stuff is not as complicated as with preschoolers. I hate the idea of throwing four years down the drain, so I'll definitely stay on in this program and graduate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
4. No it isn't!
You're still young. First get your degree then spend your life doing what you feel you do best; what gives you the most satisfaction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
5. senior year is NOT too late to change
According to one of my brothers (a partner in an architectural firm), every firm needs an artist (that's what he does), an engineer (the math guru), the site supervisor, and the contact person (member of the country club, member of dominant political party in the area, etc.)

He wasn't/isn't very good at math and (I think) had to repeat the required physics course.

He got the idea of being an architect in jr high when the class had to do a paper on what they wanted to do when they grew up. He didn't really have much idea, but architecture was one of the possibilities suggested on the basis of his results on the Couter (sp?) Preference Test.

My dad knew an architect in town and arranged for my brother to observe and interview him.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #5
19. I married the site supervisor
The guy who eyeballs a walkway and says it's 1/4" off. Yeah, he drives me nuts too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
6. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT
That's society talking.

I went to grad school with people in the 50s and 60s making career changes. I've changed careers a couple times.

Only society thinks you should decide in high school what you will be doing when you retire.

FOLLOW YOUR HEART and screw anyone who tells you that you are "wrong".

by the way, when I said "Bullshit, etc." I didn't mean that as disparagin to you, I directed it at whatever tradition your knowledge came from.

best of luck to you in the decision of which path to follow!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AquariDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. That cheers me up quite a bit
Still, it would be one dramatic switch for me!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:05 AM
Response to Reply #16
21. People do make big switches all the time
I went from engineering to music to grocery store checker to ministry, and have taken some detours into secretary work for management consulting and financial.

When I worked at a management consultant firm, many of the consultants were MBAs, of course, but we also had consultants from a wild variety of fields: one guy had done string theory as a phycisist for many years, a couple were former medical doctors (one had done a lot of work in Zimbabwe), my boss was a math major from Harvard, we had a few with graduate degrees in literature, history, even art. But they were all doing the same work - management consulting.

For the most part, unless you need to train in a very specialized way (such as med school for doctors, law school for lawyers, appropriate ph.D.s if one wants to be an academic or researcher), but for the most part, doesn't really matter what your degree is to get into business or some other areas - they are more interested in "Did this person excel in their field? Do they show motivation and drive? Did they have leadership positions in college that were successful?"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:05 AM
Response to Reply #16
22. dupe of previous post
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 07:06 AM by Rabrrrrrr
Deleted it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:39 PM
Response to Original message
7. I know a guy who just graduated law school at 45.
Passed the bar with flying colors. It's never too late.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:48 PM
Response to Original message
8. Finish your training
If you ever get to be a supervisor, it may stand you in good stead.
But there is nothing that says that you have to spend the rest of your life in early ed.
But it is much easier to get hired by an architectural firm once you have that piece of paper in your hand.
See whether you can intern somewhere, it might not be what you think it is. The specs involve a lot of math and NOTHING is as glamorous as it looks on TV. Real life is a lot like Dilbert.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 07:52 PM
Response to Original message
9. I changed careers three times... maybe four.
I'm now doing what I love to do, teach HS. It's very different than I thought.

In your shoes, I would finish the degree you're working on. You're almost there. That way, you'll have the option of teaching and can go back to it if you change your mind later. With the economy and the exporting of jobs, you may need it fall back on.

If nothing else, you can perhaps work as a teacher while you complete your architectiture studies. It will probably be better income than working at retail while going to school. When I was getting my teaching credentials, it was helpful to have a decent income so I could pay as I went. No student loans for me!

Ultimately, of course it's your decision and you don't want to do something you loathe. Good luck to you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:15 PM
Response to Original message
10. Lots of good advice here. You have invested well in your education.
I say finish it up and move forward in whatever direction you have an interest in. I'm still toying with the idea of law school, and I'm looking at the old double nickle looming up here really soon.

Incidentally, any education you have in child development has broad applications. It will serve you well, as will your four year degree.
Arts and Science colleges produce good critical thinkers having a core of knowledge and skills that serve them well whatever direction they choose to go. Schools of Education can do that as well.

These are early days. Sometimes going out into the "real" world, working and seeing what you like and don't like is the best way to learn about yourself. Just remember, you haven't "wasted" anything. It's all to the good. :D

Additionally, four years in undergraduate school should put you on the road to becoming an educated person, it does not necessarily train you for a specific job, although it may. Looks to me like you have a win-win going on here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:34 PM
Response to Original message
11. You are entirely to old to change your mind or career
You are over the hill. You made a wrong decision, stick with it because your case is hopeless.

As my 86 year old grandmother said: "They will tell you it's never too late to go for your dream. They are wrong. I wanted to be in the NYC Ballet and dance for Balanchine, instead I'm making fucking cookie jars. It is too late to be a Prima-ballerina." She started crying at that point. I had never heard her curse before.

You don't state your age in your post but I guess if you are in your 70s it might be too late to switch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AquariDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. 21 is a bit early for the retirement home
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:34 PM
Response to Original message
12. I started as a journalist. . .
grew quickly disenchanted. There's something about talking to people about their misery then blabbing it to the world that didn't sit well with me. It was an easy move from there to graphic design, since I could continue with journalism as I learned my new craft. After a couple decades working for various ad agencies and publishers as a copy writer / designer / typographer, I came to the conclusion that, if I had to work for an idiot, I may as well work for myself. I've had my own design firm for some ten years and we've done quite well. I'm not totally satisfied, however, for I feel I should make the effort to pursue a dream I had back in school -- to be a college professor. To this end, I've made inquiries and may start next year towards another master's degree with an eye to eventually teaching. Having said this, I trust I may yet live into my nineties and, finding myself as inquisitive then as I was in my twenties, pursue my original dream to be a writer.

Don't let others set your goals, don't hem yourself in artificially, and above all, do what makes you happy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:45 AM
Response to Original message
18. Listen to your heart
I knew I wasn't a teacher when my student teaching went sour, pretty much for the same issues as yours, but I stuck it out for three years until my nervous breakdown.

Go for your dreams.

For God sakes stay away from Junior High.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:34 AM
Response to Original message
20. how about...
....taking some kind of part time job in an architectural firm for the summer? Any kind of work. That might give you a better idea about the future.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 06:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC