Heavy Metal

[kertnom]

I am baffled that heavy metal is even a genre under music? Heavy metal is just another forum of noise, why isn't banging a spoon on a tin can considered music? Sorry "Metal Heads", but heavy metal is a horrible sounding noise and am baffled that some of you consider it music.

[VelmaD]

1. Is there any particular reason...

you felt the need to drag this off the other thread into a thread of it's own?

Oh, and btw. I was a music major in college, spent 18 years playing classical music and jazz, and I love heavy metal. So while you have the right to your opinion I also have the right to tell you I think you're full of crap.

Darth Velma

[rudeboy666]

3. word

"So while you have the right to your opinion I also have the right to tell you I think you're full of crap."

[kertnom]

5. Because I don't think everyone know what my view is on Heavy Metal

I felt everyone should know it.

[VelmaD]

8. Wrong...

we kinda got your opinion on that other thread.

Some ego you've got there.

[kertnom]

15. I don't have an ego

But this is a discussion board is it not? I felt that the fact heavy metal is noise or music should be up for discussion.

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[kertnom]

25. I am stating the truth

Let me compare this discussion to another discussion

*Person A takes bite of apple*

Person B "You took a bite of that apple"

Person A "No I didn't"

Person B "Yes you did"

The "Metal Heads" are person A, I am person B are we clear?

[kmla]

28. Wasn't that a Monty python skit?

well, maybe not. :eyes:

[kertnom]

29. Irrelevent

n/t

[VelmaD]

30. The only thing that is clear...

is that this is pointless. You still haven't proved that you even know what a fact is vs. what an opinion is. That you don't understand the difference between your apple example and stating "heavy metal isn't music" only proves that you aren't worth wasting time talking to.

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[leftist_rebel1569]

39. Yeah, you tell him!

:loveya:

[Kathy in Cambridge]

2. This is a BS opinion thread

that is your taste. I don't like country music, hip hop, heavy metal, rednecks, the Yankees, and New Jersey. But I don't disparage people who do.

Welcome to DU, BTW.

[kertnom]

4. But if you listen to heavy metal

all you are hearing is noise! Country music is music, hip hop is just another form of noise. When will noise have a 10 ten countdown?

[VelmaD]

6. You know...

saying something over and over doesn't make it true. You think it's noise. That's fine. It should be glaringly obvious, even to you at this point, that a significant number of people disagree with you.

[kertnom]

11. People can disagree all they want to

But I am making my point and the fact is not an opinion, A FACT, the fact is heavy metal is noise. Jazz, Country, R&B, Folk, is music.

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[kertnom]

16. Fact: Heavy Metal is noise

Opinion: Heavy Metal is music

I know the difference crystal cut clear.

[VelmaD]

19. Are you dim or what?

I want you to write me the definitions of FACT and OPINION without using the words heavy metal just to prove you know what a FACT or an OPINION actually is.

[kmla]

20. Ummm. (cough). OOOOOOOkay......

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[arcane1]

26. does you mom know you're using her pc?

you ither don't know the difference between noise and music, or you have no clue what the word 'opinion' means

I'm amazed you knew where to find the 'on' button

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[arcane1]

33. more projection

no surprise there...

:crazy:

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[leftist_rebel1569]

41. FACT?

Total bullshit, man...total bullshit.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

18. It's like arguing with a six-year old

who doesn't know the difference between opinion and fact.

"It's noise because I say it is!" cries the six-year old

"There are WMDS because i said so!" cries Bush.

Very quicky revealing who you are...

[kertnom]

23. Don't compare me with Bush

I voted for Gore. But anyone who thinks Heavy Metal is music is obviously living in fantasy land.

[kmla]

24. Yeah, don't compare him with Bush....

...or he'll take his ball and go home.

[leftist_rebel1569]

42. Anyone who thinks

that people who listen to heavy metal and think it's music (which, it really is music, in fact...I'd think you would have learned by now). are in some sort of fantasy land REALLY need to get a reality check. Heavy Metal IS music, whether you like it or not.

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[ProudGerman]

13. You live in your world, I'll live in mine

and please, try to stay out of mine.

You can have your world of nice neat boxes, where everything fits. And those things that don't appeal to your tastes are not only looked at in contempt, but are actively bitched about.

Me, I'll live in my world of chaos, where new and different things go on. And if I happen upon stuff I don't like, I'll try to ignore it. And I definitely won't go and tell the people that enjoy the thing I don't like how low of an opinion I have of something they enjoy, repeatedly, ad nauseum.

[kmla]

7. I don't like it either, but judging people and acting aghast that

they don't agree with your opinion is counterproductive.

Just because people don't like it doesn't make it any less of an art-form. It just means that people don't like it. The same can be said for most any type of music.

I don't like much country music either, but it is a valuable and expressive type of music. It takes talent to perform, produce, and write country music. I just happen not to like it. But I am glad other people do.

We have a pretty large umbrella here at DU. There is room for everybody to stay out of the rain.

[Systematic Chaos]

9. Okay, I'll bite

Sorry, Charlie. While it may be true that some metal is just extreme noise and growling vocals, there is some highly technically proficient and melodic music out there that is also classified as metal. In fact, there are a number of bands (especially in Europe) whose music is classically inspired. There are a number of subgenres of metal, and to simply write the whole thing off as garbage is to miss out on some very good music.

When I'm talking about "good" metal music, I'm referring to bands like:

www.dreamtheater.net
www.shadowgallery.com
www.spocksbeard.com
www.savatage.com

Check out some of the online music samples of these bands and then tell me that metal is nothing but noise. :shrug:

[TrogL]

10. Banging a spoon on a tin can is music

Basically that's Caribbean steel drums are.



http://www.historical-museum.org/exhibits/carib/carib.htm

(fixed picture link)

[kertnom]

12. Well it's noise

Sorry to offend the carribeans but banging a spoon on a steel can is noise as well as Heavy Metal.

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[kertnom]

34. You are living up to your name

Character Assassin.

[Character Assassin]

35. I'm still waiting for those precise definitions, Ace

I noticed that you were unable or unwilling to provide them.

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[Skip Intro]

22. Metal is over your head, I fear

it is too much to handle for some, that's why there is a simpler and less challenging genre - country "music"

:evilgrin:

[electricmonk]

31. Heavy Metal

is noise: Noise: noun
1. Sound of any kind

Country music is music: Music: noun
6. Punishment for one's actions

I feel punished anytime I have to listen to modern country.
So you can bend a word to any definition you want.

More of a punk myself as Jello said about metal, "The music's ok as long as there's more ideas than solos."

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

37. You think that's is horrible, you should have heard Peter Lemongello

[VermontDem2004]

38. This has got to be one of the most rudicilous threads ever

[leftist_rebel1569]

40. amen to that

long live heavy metal...

[Rabrrrrrr]

43. AND YOUR CONSTANT HARPING ON THIS IS NOISE!

And you inability to offer even the SEMBLANCE of an understanding is NOISE INCARNATE.

Why won't you accept the truth of that?


Person A: "This is a black cat."

Person B: "No it isn't. It's a verdant field filled with daisies."

Person A: "Obviously it is black - look - it's absorbing all wavelengths of light from the visible specrrum, and it's obviously a cat, since it meows. And I have it in my hand."

Person B: "But I don't like black cats."

Person A: "But you make no sense!"

Person B: "Why are you denying the truth?"



You see, you're person B. You make an equal amount of sense.

[arcane1]

45. lol

touche'

[Rabrrrrrr]

49. Thanks!

It was an inspired moment.

[leftist_rebel1569]

47. Good point

:thumbsup:

[Castilleja]

48. I love metal...

In fact, I am bookmarking all these threads just to save links to new or old bands that I have not heard yet. To each his own, but I'm not sure what this thread is really supposed to accomplish?

[kwolf68]

55. Hey man

What type of stuff are you looking for? Nu-School, old school, classic, punk inspired, speed, thrash? You into a type of sound? Lyrics? Type of singer?

I may can give some advice as well as several other posters on these boards who also appear to have some great ideas on metal.

[jayfish]

50. Here... This Should End It.

From Merriam-Webster

Main Entry: heavy metal
Function: noun
Date: 1974
: energetic and highly amplified electronic rock music having a hard beat

No go piss in someone elses Corn Flakes.

Jay

[mvd]

51. He's been banned

I alerted on this thread even though it's not GD, due to the nature of his posts.

The only "noise" IMO would be a bunch of static coming through the speakers. :)

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[mvd]

53. As far as I know..

He was also making freeper-type comments.

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