For any bodybuilders on DU

[Uzybone]

Ronnie Coleman won his 6th Mr Olympia contest on Saturday. Arnie was there yucking it up with his brethren. Arnie declared that "he is glad to be where he belongs" while he was up on the stage. And I agree 100%, thats where the dumbfuck should be instead of the Ca governor seat. Coleman spent almost his entire post winner speech praising God for making him the champion. Of course he neglected to speak about the massive amounts of illegal drugs he took to get the unprecedented gargantuan size he achieved. Congrats Ronnie, he is a class guy, but his God schtick is lame.

[VermontDem2004]

1. Proof?

Of course he neglected to speak about the massive amounts of illegal drugs he took to get the unprecedented gargantuan size he achieved.

I get tired of people assuming that a physically fit guy automatically took steroids. He probaly did, he probaly didn't but before I say anything I would like proof.

[Uzybone]

2. You probably dont know much about the sport

if you did you wouldn't say what you did. Do you know how much Ronnie Coleman weighed? Do you know what his BF% was? If you knew about pro bodybuilding you would know that they ALL take steroids. Every single one, its not really a secret.

[VermontDem2004]

3. I want proof that he took steroids

I wouldn't of made that statement if I knew for a fact he took steroids.

[Uzybone]

5. Why? Are you a fed?

do you want him in jail? You asking for proof that a pro bodybuilder uses steroids is like asking Snoop Dogg (the rapper) for proof that he smoked weed. Its not a lapel they wear on thier shirts. Its still illegal ya know.


And Im not bashing him for using drugs, after all they all do at that level and its thier decision.

[VermontDem2004]

7. Snoop Dogg admitted countless times

But can you tell me does he do or has he done steroids WITH proof or a confusion?

[Uzybone]

8. Well the only proof I can show you

without posting his steroid regiment for you are his pictures and stats. You dont get to be 5'11 287 lbs and 3% BF naturally. Its just not possible.

[VermontDem2004]

11. Yes it's called eating right and working out

I will assume that unless I have proof that he took steroids. It is possible working out and eating right every week of your life since you are 14 or younger.

[Uzybone]

12. Eat and work out all you like

noone can achieve this look





by just eating right and working out.

[VermontDem2004]

13. I don't know?

Have you tried it?

[Uzybone]

14. No I havent

and neither has he. Because during the offseason he eats french fries, fried chicken and probably over 4500 calories a day and weighs over 320 lbs.

[VermontDem2004]

18. Oh ok

Do you have proof for that claim too?

[geniph]

4. It's true, you really can't be competitive anymore

without steroids - male or female, you don't win competitions these days with only natural bulk. I used to be a bodybuilder, but didn't go to the point of competition because I didn't want to take steroids. There's only so much muscle mass and definition you can do with Mother Nature's help and lots of hard work - for the really grotesque look the top contenders have now, you need drugs.

I don't like the look of the competitors now. They look like freaks.

[VermontDem2004]

6. But I would like proof

He may have done it but I wish people had proof before they jump to conclusions. I am not going to look at someone I don't even know and say to another person "He does crack."

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

9. I have a relative that used to compete in contests for

natural bodybuilders. They were people who did it for true fitness, nothing like the people that get all the fame and money. He said they definitely had to use drugs to get like that. Arnold is a huge phony when he talks about fitness.

[terrya]

17. I think it was Franco Columbu

Who said that it was just plain impossible to get that big without steroids. It just can't be done.

I've seen bodybuilders at amateur natural contests who have good definition, but just aren't as massive as Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler.

[ZenLefty]

15. Proof he uses steroids?

It's kind of like asking for proof that graffiti artists use paint. I've worked out all my life, and you just don't get to looking like that without some sort of chemical help. There's a reason why natural bodybuilders look significantly smaller than the powerhorse Mr. Olympia counterparts.

[geniph]

16. They look a hell of a lot better, too

the steroid freaks look grotesque to me. That look is not at all appealing. Natural bodybuilders look awesome, in all senses of the word.

[Skittles]

22. Zen honey, we don't WANT you to look like that

I mean, buff is one thing but this is.........gross

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. I just wanted to let everyone know

That I never, ONCE, used steriods to achieve my hurculean phisique.

:)

[toddzilla]

19. LOL

how could anyone, with a straight face, think that you could even APPROACH anything like that naturally. think of it from an evolutionary standpoint. there is no reason why your body would get that big, NONE. there is a huge difference between strength training and bodybuilding. if you've never been in a hard-core gym and stood next to one of these mutants, you really don't know what you're talking about as far as size is concerned.


these guys are HUGE..

they take drugs to put on muscle mass (anabolic steriods)
they take drugs to counter-act the drugs they take to prevent aromatization to estrogen (nolvadex)
they take drugs to prevent gynocemastia (breast development in men)
they take drugs to keep from retaining water (diuretics)
they take drugs to boost metabolism in order to get an abnormally low BF% (usually below 4% for olympia-level guys) (usually someting like clenbuterol-basically prescription primatene mist)



also, bear in mind that many "natural" bodybuilders are just natural at that time, and many use drugs, just not close to the competition.

[midnight armadillo]

20. Growth hormone

Human GH leads to enlarged inner organs as well, which is why you don't see the vaccuum pose anymore:

The old-time guys built fantastic physiques, not grotesque monstrosities, like the famous Arthur Saxon performing a fantastically difficult bent press of 400+ lbs:

[Room101]

21. Ronnie like all Pro Body builders have admitted it

To even raise the question of wanting proof means you know 0% about bodybuilding. It is common intuitional knowledge that the pros take roids, so much so that bodybuilding has the NATRAL body building awards (that’s for non roid takers)