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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:43 PM
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Dr. Strangelove or The Manchurian candidate ? Which should I watch?
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 08:52 PM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
I plan on getting really drunk and watching one of these tonight.
Which one should I watch? I have never seen them.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:44 PM
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1. strangelove is funny
man. cand. is down right fu*king scary....
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Room101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:46 PM
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3. I need a Laugh, DR it is ............
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 08:52 PM by BEFOREATHOUGHT
Thanks,
:party:

Tomorrow I will watch the Manchurian candidate.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:46 PM
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2. Never GOT Strangelove--Manchurian Candidate is a classic
Angela Lansbury is incredible. Imagine, an actress of that caliber without an Oscar and no-talents like Nicole Kidman and Helen Hunt have them!

There is no GOD!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:49 PM
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7. Hey!
I LOVE Nicole Kidman - she's a great actress! "To Die For", "Eyes Wide Shut", "The Hours", "Moulin Rouge"... ALL great performances!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:55 PM
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11. AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
They are not! She's an incredibly untalented "actress'! Her performances are laughable!

I repeat, there is no GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:02 PM
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13. hehehe....
Just gotta disagree.

If we wanna talk about God and the Oscars, we ought to focus on Diane Keaton.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:05 PM
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14. I HOPE you mean that Diane deserves more than one!
She's brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And Katharine Hepburn should have gotten even more than four!!!!!!!!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:13 PM
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19. I think...
Diane Keaton stinks up the screen in everything she does.

Up there with Darryl Hannah as the least-competent actress ever.

Keaton was OK in Annie Hall.... but every time I watch The Godfather, I cringe when she speaks. John Simon described her:

Diane Keaton is yet another of those non-actresses this country produces in such abundance - women who trade on the raw materials of their neuroses, which has nothing to do with acting.
Her work, if that is the word for it, always consists chiefly of a dithering, blithering, neurotic coming apart at the seams - an acting style that is really a nervous breakdown in slow-motion.


Hepburn's one of my all time favorites, but I think 4 oscars is enough for anyone.

Speaking of Angela Lansbury, whom I like (saw her in Sweeney Todd on Broadway), Simon wrote:

Angela Lansbury: God only knows where the notion that Miss Lansbury has class originated; perhaps her vestigial lower-middle-class English accent passes for that in our informed show-biz circles. She is, in fact, common; and her mugging, rattling-off or steam-rollering across her lines, and camping around merely make her into that most degraded thing an outre actress can decline into: a fag hag.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:17 PM
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21. Who the F**K is John Simon?
That no-talent little worm!

Diane Keaton is that rare commodity--a woman who can bring that special something to every role and make you believe she's that person! Watch Marvin's Room to see what great acting is all about. Also, see how wonderful she is in Reds.

One of the greatest actresses of our time.

And Angela Lansbury is a legend!!!!!!!!!!!
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seamarq Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:18 PM
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22. Lansbury has always chewed up the scenery. n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:25 PM
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24. She's always been best-suited for the stage...
she's also now the most-nominated actress never to win an Emmy (Susan Lucci finally won).

She never won an Oscar.

But.... she's been nominated for four Tony's and won each time.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:24 AM
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27. Three Oscar nominations....
...no wins--should have won for Manchurian Candidate.

Emmys are proof that it's the role and not the actor/actress that wins.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:46 PM
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Strangelove
It defines the extreme right.

oh, and make sure you use rainwater when you mix your drink.

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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:46 PM
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4. The Manchurian Candidate
One of my favorites.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:46 PM
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5. Very tough choice....
two of my favorite movies.

I'm in more of a Manchurian Candidate mood myself.

But ya can't go wrong either way!
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:47 PM
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6. Manchurian Candidate....
incredible story. Fab acting, even by Frank. Then watch strangelove.
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phaseolus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:49 PM
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8. Manchurian Candidate
...for the absolutely creepiest kiss in cinema history.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:01 PM
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12. Yeah, that kiss is freaky!
Did you know Angela Lansbury was younger than what'-s-his-name who played her son in that????????
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:05 PM
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15. Actually..
she wasn't younger than Laurence Harvey. She's three years older than him. But still a creepy kiss ;)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:07 PM
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16. I don't think you're right, but she did make a movie career out of playing
older women when she was much younger. She was only 17 in Gaslight, but still looked older than that even then!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:14 PM
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20. *shrug*
one can look it up.

Angela Lansbury born October 16, 1925

Laurence Harvey born October 1, 1928
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:55 AM
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29. In the novel by Richard Condon...
It's spelled out that there was an incestous relationship between Raymond and his mother. God knows, they couldn't be explicit about that in the film (it was 1962, after all). Thus, the kiss.
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HornBuckler Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:49 PM
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9. Strangelove
And Then When You Get Really Shitty Pop In 2001
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:54 PM
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10. In your mood, Strangelove hands down.
M.C. is no laughing matter. Pretty much a downer, really. But great performance by Angela Landsbury.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:09 PM
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17. Strangelove
A lot of funny black humor. Should go down well with multiple drinks.

The Manchurian Candidate--serious, disturbing stuff that is very well done. Lansbury is great; Lawrence Harvey is good, also.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:11 PM
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18. Booze and Strangelove is the best combo...
Weed and Manchurian goes better together.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:23 PM
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23. Ice Station Zebra
has 'em both beat!

Otherwise, I'd go for Manchurian Candidate myself. A lot of today shines through in it, methinks...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:44 PM
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25. No contest: go with Dr. Strangelove
The Manchurian Candidate is good, but Dr. Strangelove is one of the classics.

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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:48 PM
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26. Imagine * in the Frank Sinatra role
and Barb in Angela Lansbury's role.

Now think about how many former Trotskyites have a hand in neo-conservativism. See! The Manchurian Candidate was a prophecy! The Revolution will come after the destruction of capitalism from the inside! Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 07:47 AM
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28. Manchurian Candidate. IMO.
Absolutely chilling (still) film of paranoia. Just brilliant from beginning to end. Some of the strangest dialogue ever...particularly in the scene when Major Marco (Frank Sinatra) meets Janet Leigh's character on the train. And Angela Lansbury is magnificent...when she tells Raymond "And we'll be swept into the White House with powers that will make martial law seem like anarchy"....does that resonate today? I sure think it does.

It's John Frankenheimer's best film (he also directed "Seven Days in May and "Seconds"). With a great screenplay by George Axelrod.

God, I'm gushing about this. But it's a classic film.

BTW. There's to be a remake of "The Manchurian Candidate" coming. I think it will be a travesty, IMO. You don't tamper with greatness.
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