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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:07 PM
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"… can you play the balalaika?"
"Can she play? She's an artist!"

"Ah, then it's a gift."
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:09 PM
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1. Dr. Zhivago.
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 10:15 PM by greatauntoftriplets
Yuri's daughter's boyfriend, in the scene at the dam to Alec Guinness (one of my all-time favorite actors -- saw him onstage in London, twice). Forget their names, but it is the end of the movie.

Her name is Tanya, or Tonya, not sure how it is spelled.
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:10 PM
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2. Very good.
Quite impressed.
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:12 PM
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3. What was relationship
between the character portrayed by Guinnes and Zhivago?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:14 PM
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4. Half brothers.
One a Communist (Guinness) -- his name was Yevgrav (sp?); the other a man who merely wanted his private life (Sharif).
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:18 PM
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5. "Oh Yuri -- don't you think they're splendid?"
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 10:41 PM by chookie
Ah -- Dr Zhivago -- one of my most beloved films.

I am a big David Lean fan -- my other favorite is Lawrence of Arabia.

Decades later, and this achievement still stands up as one of the greatest films ever made.

It is a magnificent achievement, and I urge DUers to see it.

PS -- to what do we owe this quotation now?
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:20 PM
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6. I second all of that.
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 10:21 PM by The Lone Liberal
Both are worth seeing a first time and then again. It is a shame they do not re-release both for the big screen.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:25 PM
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7. Also Bridge on the River Kwai
I was 8 or 9 when that came out. Made my mother take it to me 3 times that summer. As well, Summertime and Ryan's Daughter. The scenery in all 3 of them was exquisite.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:01 PM
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13. I got to see Lawrence on Big Screen
One shudders to think of it, but all the original reels of Lawrence were deteriorating in some warehouse until the mid-80s.

People got together -- Lucas, Coppola and Spielberg, to name a few -- who paid for its restoration, AND to include scenes that got cut out of the popular release.

It was re-released in 1989, and played in US theatres which still had the old Cinemascope screens.

You bet I went -- again and again and again -- and immersed myself in its magnificence. Oh -- to be in a theatre like that, and watch O'Toole lift the match to his lips and blow it out, and then see the red sun rising on the horizon!! Another powerful scene is when Lawrence brings the fallen man off the desert -- and you see tiny specks in the distance, as Lawrence's servant rushes to greet him after his first miracle.

It is, in my opinion, very nearly perfect movie -- and the flaws I see in it are quite miniscule (when I say "perfect" I MEAN perfect!). Robert Bolt, screenwriter -- the best there was. Peter O'Toole - talent that is miraculous. I have lost track of of how many times I have viewed it, or rather, devoured it - and it *amazes* me each time. David Lean tells a LOT about Lawrence and the times he lived in, in images, in suggestions....

I got the DVD of Zhivago about 9 months ago -- never saw it in theatres -- but what a delight that would be!! Even on the small screen, the sweeping epic of events, and to be able to lift "bourgeoise" emotions *above* the tumult of the times in which it is set -- it is rivetting. Omar Sharif says now that Lean told him to "do nothing" in his scenes -- *but* apparently he did not tell him not to *think* -- because what Sharif conveys so magnificently is the inner experience of Zhivago!

I could go on and on. Julie Christie, Rod Steiger, Geraldine Chaplin, Ralph Richardson -- even Klaus Kinski!!!

Hell -- I'll probably go and watch it again tonight!

What Michaelangelo did to canvas, fresco and marble -- Lean did to film.

your friend -- Chookie
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:39 PM
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12. I love awrence!
Outrageous! outrageous!
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:09 PM
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15. "You bloody wog!"
That was a great scene.

Not sure how many people caught the fact that the officer shouting "OUTRAGEOUS!" and who strikes Lawrence (dressed as an Arab) and calls him a wog is the same guy who asks to shake his hand as he exits Allenby's office.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:03 PM
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14. Omar Sharif was a major
Hottie in that movie
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:33 PM
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8. With Or Without Ouzo?
:evilgrin:
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:37 PM
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9. Bastard!....I love that movie.
So does my (new) bride Steph (Misinformed01 & Thtwudbeme) so much so that it'll be the first movie that we'll watch together, once I move up to NC, and we're finally living together.

You're killin' me here...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:37 PM
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10. "You, my dear, are a slut"
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:38 PM
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11. The Rod Steiger character to the Julie Christie character.
She was Lara, his name escapes me at the moment, what a brute.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:13 PM
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16. Komarovsky
This is the surname that The Girl uses, as well. She had been born after Lara fled to Manchuria with him, and who finally remembers that she was lost when they were running together in a crowd, that he dropped her hand....
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:13 PM
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17. Steiger's character
was named Komarovsky.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:17 PM
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19. Thank you both!
It was on the tip of my tongue, but could not quite recall.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:16 PM
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18. "There are two types of men, and only two."
"One is high-minded and pure, that the world pretends to look up to, but in fact despises. He breeds only unhappiness, especially in women."
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:20 PM
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20. Argh...Please delete your post!
Hits too close to home:evilgrin:


BTW I love that quote:-)
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:23 PM
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24. "The other type of man..."
... is not so high-minded, but is more full of....life."

(Something like that....)
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:20 PM
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21. New version of Zhivago to appear soon on PBS
A Masterpiece Theatre Production, I believe.

I saw just a few wee clips -- it looks interesting, and may well be excellent -- but I cannot fathom that it could rate with the magnificent achievement of David Lean.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the story, and how it will differ from The Movie.
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:20 PM
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22. The most powerful scene for me


Was the dark clothed people moving through the winter streets in protest, while up ahead the czar’s Calvary waited for them. This was of course played out against the cuts to the gayety and immense rich color of the café where men in tuxedo and women in ball gowns enjoyed themselves.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:23 PM
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23. And Zhivago and his foster family stood and watched them,
and felt solidarity.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:28 PM
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25. "I suppose they'll sing in tune *after* the Revolution!"
Yes, it was a powerful scene.

The movie overall gives us powerful glimpses of conditions in Russia at the time from the perspective of many different sorts of people.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:43 PM
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26. I denounce the film as sentimental bourgeois pap!
Even though it is an ok flick.
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