"You feckless thug."

[WilliamPitt]

Just showed the West Wing on Bravo where Bartlett cusses out God in Latin in a cathedral, and then crushes a butt on the cathedral floor. Best. Epidode. Ever.

I think it'll be on tomorrow morning, if you missed it. Here's the schedule:

http://westwing.bewarne.com/extras/bravoschedule.html

[Bake]

1. Brothers in Arms

I've just watched what is arguably the best single episode of the best television show ever made, and I am in AWE. I can never listen to Brothers in Arms without thinking of this show.

"If you don't run because it'll be hard or because you think you'll lose, well then God, Jed, I don't even want to know you!"

I can't wait for West Wing to come out with all the seasons on DVD!

There's a big lesson for us all here. If we give up the fight against the neocons and others who would destroy this great democracy because it'll be hard, or because we think we might lose, well then God, people, I don't even want to know you. Or me.

All those things that Bartlett listed off when Mrs. Landingham asked him for "the numbers." All those things are things that WE STILL NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. George W. Bush be damned. Tom Delay be damned. Trent Lott, Bill Frist, and all the rest be damned.

We're brothers in arms.

Bake

[WillyT]

5. Great Post db, You Are Absolutely Correct !!!

:toast:

[Paragon]

2. Which ep is the one where Bartlett uses the Bible...

...to refute right-wing positions? I caught a snippet of that and loved it.

[WilliamPitt]

4. It was on last week

Epic. He dusted a Dr. Laura-type character. Crucified her. 'When should I sell my daughter into slavery, as it says in Exodus such and such. Can the Notre Dame football team play, even though they're touching the skin of a pig, forbidden by Leviticus so and so."

Best part. She is sitting down for all this:

"When the President stands in this house, nobody sits."

And he looms over her, after destroying her. And she has to stand.

[Paragon]

6. Wow! I used this thing called "Google", typed in "west wing quote", and...

Bartlet: "Forgive me, Dr. Jacobs. Are you a MD?"

Dr. Jacobs: "PhD."

Bartlet: "A PhD?"

Dr. Jacobs: "Yes, sir."

Bartlet: "In Psychology?"

Dr. Jacobs: "No, Sir."

Bartlet: "Theology?"

Dr. Jacobs: "No."

Bartlet: "Social work?"

Dr. Jacobs: "I have a PhD in English Literature."

Bartlet: "I'm asking, 'cause on your show, people call in for advice and you go by the name of Dr. Jacobs on your show. And I didn't know if maybe your listeners were confused by that, and assumed you had advanced training in Psychology, Theology, or health care."

Dr. Jacobs: "I don't believe they are confused, no sir."

Bartlet: "Good. I like your show. I like how you call homosexuality an abomination."

Dr. Jacobs: "I don't say homosexuality is an abomination, Mr.
President. The Bible does."

Bartlet: "Yes, it does. Leviticus."

Dr. Jacobs: "Eighteen twenty-two."

Bartlet: "Chapter and verse. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I had you here. I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21 : 7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, and always clears the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another? My Chief of Staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath, Exodus 35:2, clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police? Here's one that's really important, 'cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town. Touching the skin of a dead pig makes us unclean, Leviticus 11 : 7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? Think about those questions, would you? One last thing, while you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tightass Club, in this building, when the President stands nobody sits."

[WilliamPitt]

7. That's the one

[GalleryGod]

11. Will, Problem Being,it exposes the weak writng of Season #5 by comparison

With the Zoe Kidnap Arc - they came ever so close to "Jump the Shark" time,IMHO;
Hey Will, get your ass to Philly B4 Christmas,OK????
:grouphug:

Jay & Barbara:yourock:

[WillyT]

3. Yep, It's Called 'Two Cathedrals', And Is Da Best !!!

Just finished watching it. Never tire of it. Why can't television be more like that???

:shrug:

[kayleybeth]

8. Best. Episode. Ever.

Hey! Get outta my head, WillPitt. I said the exact same thing to my husband right after the show. We never caught the series before they started airing it on Bravo, so we're seeing all of them for the first time. My second-favorite episode so far is the one where the homeless Vietnam vet died and Toby arranged for his burial with military honors. Outstanding television all around.

[SOteric]

9. For the non-Latin speakers, what Bartlett said to God was:

“Am I really to believe that these are the acts of a loving God? A just God? A wise God?” Bartlet exclaims. “To hell with your punishments. I was your servant here on Earth. And I spread your word and I did your work. To hell with your punishments. To hell with you.

[hunter]

10. God says, "Everybody dies...

... but that doesn't mean you get to kill them."

I think that's one thing God is saying to George W. Bush.

So, how many people died in Iraq and Afghanistan because of you, Mr. President? A lot more than died at the WTC, isn't it? Not even an "eye for an eye" is it? Surprise! You win!

And a trapdoor opens up straight to hell.

God's conversations with men like Bartlet are going to be much more sophisticated than that, and probably won't involve the trapdoor straight to hell.

Oooops. That's not mine to judge. I often get into that sort of trouble. But it's much more amusing to imagine what God would say to Bush, than what God would say to Bartlet.

Peace