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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:20 AM
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Cleveland

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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:21 AM
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1. Mistake on the lake.
Way to set that river on fire!
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:25 AM
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3. We love you Cleveland....
:grouphug:
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:16 PM
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8. ahhhh - just as i expected
start a cleveland thread, and the first reply is a pittsburgher making a joke.

Btw... You know one way Cleveland is better than Pittsburgh? They don't have to worry about 'winning one for the thumb.'

Go Stillers!!!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:23 AM
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2. A baloon tied to a mailbox is the international symbol...
...for "party over he-ere!"

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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:01 PM
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12. party over here
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:05 AM
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4. Desolate town, going down the tubes fast.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:08 PM
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5. My Hometown
Haven't lived there in years, but I'll love Clevo til I die..
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:12 PM
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6. A fine rust-belt city
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:17 PM
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9. A more well-tempered Pittsburgher
Good job JVS - unlike ALlenberg, you managed to stifle the desire to make a denigrating remark towards Cleveland.

Kudos to you!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:19 PM
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10. How can I speak ill of another Northern city?
Solidarity forever
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:54 PM
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13. I'd call Cleveland
more of a midwestern city, with Pittsburgh being the boundry between Midwest and Northeast. At least that's how I tend to think in terms of cities. :shrug:
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:22 PM
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14. JVS is still stuck in the civil war
thats his north/south schema in play...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:24 PM
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15. Did I fucking say Northeastern?
I said Northern!
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:27 PM
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16. settle down bevis
time for another leinie to smooth you out :beer:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:29 PM
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17. Can't drink, have work at 5
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 02:30 PM
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18. ahhh right
I forgot you shift starts at the time the rest of us are sitting down for dinner - the better for you to harass us.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 07:27 PM
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20. Ditto
FUCK THE SOUTH!!
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:39 PM
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21. wow
tell me how you really feel!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:42 PM
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22. I feel that every time a southern white dies we come closer to a cure...
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 09:47 PM by sasquatch
for cancer.
;)
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:15 PM
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7. Much nicer place than I would have thought before I visited
and very pro-labor too. Cleveland is on our side folks.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:26 PM
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11. Site of my baby-toddler-preschool years.
Is there a plaque to me somewhere there? Maybe a statue?

I remember playing on the shores of Lake Erie as a child (late sixties, early 70s). Good god, what have I ingested?
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 07:19 PM
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19. kick
:kick:
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:45 PM
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23. An adopted hometown that has slowly grown on me.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:45 PM
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24. I liked Cleveland.
I was only there a few days and saw only part of the downtown but I had fun. Blue-collar towns seem to have a negative image attached to them nowadays.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:49 PM
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25. That's because the working class rule there
You see New York and the politicians want to kill cities like Cleveland because people actually want to live above poverty level there.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:57 PM
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27. I know what you're saying.
I grew up near Waterloo, Iowa which is a smaller blue-collar town in it's own right with John Deere Tractor Works the employer of choice for years. They actually paid people enough to actually rise out of poverty and help them achieve the American Dream. Come Reaganomics and by god we can't have that at all. The bankers cry that it's just not fair that those blue-collar workers were making as much or more than those who went to college.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:49 PM
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26. Been here 40 years
And I wouldn't like to be anywhere else. I always tell people not to come here..it sucks. I hate traffic.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:58 PM
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31. I miss the Variety Theater, Tony's Diner, West Side Market...
Coventry, The Big Egg (man, I REALLY miss The Big Egg...), Record Rondevous,.....I could go on and on...
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:46 AM
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67. Fuckdamn, looks like we both miss the exact same stuff.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 11:46 AM by asthmaticeog
Hey, if by any chance I ever spare-changed you, apologies for the hassle, bro.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:05 PM
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28. Home of Dennis Kucinich!!! not so bad, eh?
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:41 PM
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29. this Pittsburgher
thinks it is a great and beautiful town.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:42 PM
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30. As a Pittsburgher...
I had always thought that Cleveland was a festering shithole.

But I drove through it back in early May, it isn't exactly a festering shithole, I found it to be rather pretty. But, at the same time, I felt it was laid out poorly. But Pittsburgh isn't exactly easy to navigate either, so take that for what it's worth.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:18 AM
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32. Bah, Cleveland sucks
Columbus siiiiiiide;)


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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:20 AM
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33. Columbus???
Where the premier ethnic food is Wonder Bread???;)
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:24 AM
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34. if you can find a better gyro
than Apollo's on high street, i'll give you 50 bucks ;)
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:33 AM
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35. I've gotten many of them there!
You gotta love little hole-in-the-wall places like that! Actually, High Streey is the best college drag I've ever lived in, so I'm not down on Columbus; is Statche's and Magnolia Thunderpussy still around?
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:41 AM
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37. Magnolia thunderpussy was around last year
havent been around there lately, so don't know if its still there. statche's is called little brother's now.

the newport is of course still there, and still having fucking awesome music

...and Flying pizza is most definately still there, and still kicking ass :9
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:44 AM
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38. No more Staches???????????????
Oh God, that's criminal; I saw so may awesome bands there in the late 80's-early 90's.....

Is the Garden still there? When I was there last they were using it as a strip club. What a beautiful old movie theater..
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:47 AM
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39. i'm not sure
not familier with it... a few years ago, they ripped a BUNCH of bars and clubs out, for a beautification project (they promised to put them back in, but what a suprise, they have not done so :eyes:)
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:49 AM
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40. Ugh...
That figures...
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:36 AM
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36. Word, In Hamilton Ohio, a Jordanian has a kick ass Gyro though
Just as good too.
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:51 AM
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41. I miss that place
Sigh.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:03 AM
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43. then come BACK
Cbus isnt too bad politics wise, but we can use all the help we can get ;)
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:06 AM
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44. Get your ass back there man, don't you know we need you here?
:shrug:
PLEASE!!!!!
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:27 AM
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45. oh good christ - they disd script ohio on ice?!?!?!?!
Mad props from a Michigan fan - that is some shit; i have never seen a marchingband on ice....
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:41 AM
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46. I did, actually
:D I'm on the ice, there, playing bass drum (It's technically not the marching band, it's the athletic band, but there are a lot of the same people).

I've done it 3 times now, and it's freakin awesome every time
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:42 AM
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47. Hardcore - Mad props
Did you have special shoes? I am fascinated by this band on ice concept...
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:50 AM
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49. yeah
well, actually, they went OVER the shoes, but whatever. They're these rubber things that have little metal nubs for gripping the ice. Plus, we do it before the zamboni does its thing, so the ice is still pretty chopped up. It's still terrifying when you march out in front of a sold out Schott, and you keep imagining falling on your ass...
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:17 PM
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50. Did I tell you about the skull session I saw once
It was August and it was at least 98 degrees outside and the Buckeyes were playing Texas Tech(2002) and I took my friend to see the skull session in saint Johns arena. I walked in there and I was half drunk and I was hit by a gust of hot air. It had to be 120 degrees inside that damn building and the band was playing in their full dress wool uniforms. That was hard fucking core.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:32 PM
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51. that's nothing
the drum line reports at 7 FUCKING AM. The rest of the band reports at 9. They go through a full uniform practice, THEN do skull session, THEN march straight over to the stadium and march ramp (which, while it doesnt LOOK that hard, is the most exhausting thing i've ever done)
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:35 PM
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52. Man, I idolize you for being in TBDBITL
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:39 PM
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55. don't hand out medals yet
i'm not in TBDBITL :(

but i tried out for it, which is where I marched ramp. I'm in athletic band, which is like marching band for slackers :)
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:18 AM
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57. uh - what's skull session?
sounds kinky....
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:27 AM
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66. lol
skull session started out as a last minute practice before the game, in St. John Arena (the old basketball facility) across the street from the stadium. Now, it's kind of a pep-rally deal, with the band doing the whole show, and about 13,000 people coming just to see them
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Merope215 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 12:56 AM
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42. I like it
I was pleasantly surprised the first time I visited...my SO is from the West Side, and he has a great neighborhood. Downtown, though, is so dead. It really feels like a dying city - lots of tall abandoned or crumbling buildings and no one out aftr 5:00. Too bad, really, because it seems like it should have so much more potential, and I really like the slightly gritty, post-industrial-steel-town feel of it.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:47 AM
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48. In seriousness,
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 07:48 AM by Allenberg
the best part about Cleveland left and went to Baltimore in 1996, and considering the area, I'd say it was a lateral move.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:36 PM
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53. Steamer!
:evilgrin:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:36 PM
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54. East 55th and Euclid Avenue was real......precious
Hotel Sterling comin' into view...so precious.

I like Cleveland - AND Chrissie Hynde.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:45 PM
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56. The final Kerry Campaign rally: November 1, 2004 - Cleveland

I was there. :hi:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:29 AM
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58. A town I've lived in my whole life and that I love dearly,
but I love it *so much* that I'm sick to fucking death of watching it die. I hate to abandon the fight, but I'm getting my ass kicked. It may be time to move on soon, which frankly sucks.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:31 AM
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59. We're gonna bring self-respect back to Cleveland town.
Just watch us.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:00 AM
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60. I hope so.
But the whole perverse and paradoxical mix of over-the-top civic pride and deeply embedded self-loathing may prove too potent a brew for even the mighty eog/Hedges/Beast axis to overcome.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:05 AM
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61. What Cleveland needs is another "My Town."
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:09 AM
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62. LOL - I think that hurt more than it helped!
And anyway, you know my music kink - I'd much rather see another Pere Ubu emerge.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:10 AM
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63. I know somebody who's a DEAD RINGER for Dave Thomas!
:o
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:41 AM
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64. Yeah, but no way Koolzip's moving here.
:evilgrin:
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:48 AM
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65. You mean this guy?
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:50 AM
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68. Would have made a great stopping point
when driving from Connecticut to Chicago.

:banghead:
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