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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:49 PM
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Internalized Homophobia stinks!
;(
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:50 PM
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1. Internalized prejudice of all kinds does. n/t
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:52 PM
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2. So true! Hi, AlienGirl! How are you?
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:55 PM
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4. Hangin' in there
Kids will be here in a couple days, parents a day after that, graduate the day after THAT, just found out my credit score is 500 and almost jumped from the 11th floor because of it, the usual...

How's things by you?

Tucker
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:57 PM
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7. Kids? Who's Kids? Did you graduate, from where?
It's ok here...
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:59 PM
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9. My kids!
Riley, age 9, and Lark, age 7. (Not their real names--like me they have pen names, lol.)

I graduate from The Evergreen State College on June 10 with a long-delayed BA! The bad news is then I need to start paying on my student loans, which means I need a Real Job, which is gonna be hard to find in this economy...

Tucker
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:01 AM
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10. Wow did not know about your kids...
Now I am unemployed too. It is hard... :cry:
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:06 AM
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13. The kids live with their dad during the school year (2000 miles away)
When their dad left I was extremely ill--recovering from cancer--and unable to care for them. So they live in his hometown, where he moved after leaving me. I get them for the summers. I have to pay for half their plane ticket, even though my ex makes ten times what I make. (Literally, almost exactly ten times.)

I'm afraid as they get older they'll hate coming to stay with me because I'm not upper-middle-class like their dad and I can't afford all the fun he can.

Tucker
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:23 PM
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28. Sorry about that!
:cry: :hug:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:01 AM
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11. Congrats on the BA!
And I think the credit score is stacked against us all.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:10 AM
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15. Thanks!
I am OK with never being able to own a house or buy a new car but lately *employers* are looking at credit score, and I fear mine will keep me from ever getting a good job. :scared:

Note to lurking you-know-whats: my ex ran up a good portion of that bad debt, and the rest was the result of cancer. I know, I should have "made better choices" like not marrying a douchebag and not getting cancer...but I was young and naieve...

Tucker
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:16 AM
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17. We all make bad choices,
but, unless you smoke like a chimney as I do, or some other optional risk factor, you did not choose cancer. I wish you and your children all of the best the universe can provide for you.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:18 AM
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18. Eh, I was parodying the freeptards/CUmstains
I know my cancer was a one-in-a-million bit of bad genetic luck. Seriously, it was a kind I have no risk factors for, and the doctors wouldn't even biopsy the lesion till I *insisted* because I wasn't in a risk group...

Tucker
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:56 AM
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21. OK, I've fucked up twice so far.
Man, what's wrong with me?
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:36 AM
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22. Nothing's wrong!
:hug:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:50 AM
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24. CONGRATS!!!
Congratulations on your graduation!!! :party:

As for the credit thing, do the best that you can, it is all that anyone can do. There are a few tricks to getting it to jump quickly though, you can contact a FREE counseling service or call that odd woman, Suze Orman, who knows, it may help! :)
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:55 PM
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3. Which thread is this about? n/t
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:56 PM
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6. I'm not sure, I just replied...
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:58 PM
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8. I am a lesbian and internally homophobic that is it.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:47 AM
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23. If not too personal...
Do you know why? Are you getting counseling? If that is too personal, don't divulge. But, I have seen a NUMBER of your posts and they are usually so caring and empathetic, so I was surprised to see this statement.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:25 PM
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29. Getting Counseling.
:cry:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:32 PM
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30. Don't cry!
You are doing the right thing! Hopefully, your self-hate will end soon, and think of all that you will learn from the experience. Sometimes, we learn more from our set-backs and tragedies, than we learn from our accomplishments and triumphs!!!

You ever want to vent..PM me!!!!

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:39 PM
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32. THANK YOU!
:hug: Find it hard to live myself being a total failure and all...
:hug:
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:48 PM
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34. I have been there.
I have been unemployed for 2 years now, as of this month. So, I COMPLETELY understand questioning one's self worth. When you start getting down, call someone, or come see us. It seems you have quite a few friends here that can remind you why you are not a total failure. If we can see you are not a failure, maybe we can help you see it!!! :)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:51 PM
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38. Thanks, hon!
I've been unemployed for several months... :hug:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:36 PM
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31. May I ask why? And... how does it manifest itself?
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 03:36 PM by Misunderestimator
Is it entirely personal, or does it extend to other gay people?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:41 PM
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33. Just towards myself really. I support gay rights.
Gay is good, but I myself am awful.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:48 PM
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35. Is there a reason you think you are?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:50 PM
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36. Why I am gay? Just attracted to other women....
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:50 PM
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37. No, I meant why you think you're "awful"
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 03:04 PM
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39. Just because I fell in love with a straight, single mom with two kids
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 03:48 PM
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40. I still don't understand what that has to do with internal homophobia.
Unfortunate, yes... if she's straight. But why would that be any different than falling in love with ANYONE who doesn't reciprocate (man, woman, straight or gay)? Has nothing to do with being gay.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:55 PM
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5. That's true.
B-)
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:03 AM
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12. Hey, girl.
You got a self-hatin' thing goin' on? From what little I know of you, you shouldn't. Stop it! You are loved.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:07 AM
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14. She is loved but she's a Dep like me
so of course there's some self-hate. It comes with the brain chemistry. The trick is not letting it matter. (Easier said than done.)

Tucker
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:11 AM
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16. No matter the "orientation,"
it can be so very hard to find comfort in one's own skin. It took me into my late thirties. And now I'm almost fifty, and not quite there.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:19 AM
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19. Dep(ression) isn't related to orientation, just to serotonin and dopamine.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:55 AM
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20. Oh, sorry.
I'm thick as a brick sometimes.
The thread title was a wee bit misleading in that regard.
But my daughter has the same issues, and I really do feel for you.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:45 AM
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25. Kick. It sucks snake nuts. n/t
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:43 AM
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26. Please eloborate.
I'm confused.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:30 AM
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27. Sure, but...
...I have to applaud anyone who keeps that sh-t to himself.
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