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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:27 PM
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Poll question: Straight/Bi Guys & Lesbian/Bi Ladies: What do you think about strip clubs?
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 02:16 PM by redqueen
I'm just trying to get a feel for how most guys here view these places.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:30 PM
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1. I used to go in college, but after having a family
I just can't go into those places now. My problem is that I went to one sober and clearly saw the kind of people I was there with. It was kind of scary, the girls were too.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:32 PM
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4. I quit doing a lot of things when i sobered up.. have no friends now, i
cant stand being around drunks...
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:33 PM
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5. It's self realization time, like did I used to act like that much
of a jerk. I still drink occasionaly, but now in the privacy of my own home.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:40 PM
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9. Interesting.
Was it after you had children that this realization came? Or was it the sobriety that made clear things that you'd otherwise missed? Or was it only after marriage, no kids involved? Perhaps a combination of 2 or 3?
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:45 PM
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15. It was after children and sobriety
I was married when I went before without children. My wife didn't care if I went so there was no issue there. I went maybe once every 5 months with friends. We would be drunk and say "Hey let't go to the strip club" after 13 or 14 beers it always sounds like a good idea.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:31 PM
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2. Several years ago I had a reserved ringside table at the most
popular strip club in Vancouver, BC. I entertained clients there doing some very lucrative real estate deals. I haven't been in a strip club since leaving Van in 1989.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:41 PM
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10. Lots of businessmen in those places...
makes me sick to think we're paying the tab for those 'lunches'.

:grr:
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:32 PM
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3. I have actually never been in one.
But a friend of mine used to cocktail at one. She made some good money - not as good as the strippers though.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:42 PM
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11. Well of course not.
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 01:42 PM by redqueen
Money for women in the sex industry is directly proportional to the amount of exploitation they're willing to engage in.

You've never been? Wanna go? :evilgrin: ;)
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:33 PM
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6. Meh. They're no big deal.
Most of my favorite titty bar memories are when something funny happened; like accidently setting a stripper's hair on fire or seeing Donny Most get embarrased by some drunk yelling at him, "Heeeeey Potsie!"

The time that I saw a former sax student of mine stripping was disturbing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:43 PM
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12. Why was it disturbing?
Just curious...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:49 PM
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19. Because.
When she was my student, she was only 13 through 15 years old. That, and when she saw me, she came over and gave me a big naked hug. Kinda freaked me out that I had only known her as a kid.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:19 PM
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65. What The Hell Did You Teach Her In That Sax Class?
How to blow...the saxophone?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:35 PM
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7. Just not my cup of tea, for a number of reasons
First off, I've never understood the appeal of getting all hot and bothered when you can't even touch the girl, and you won't be taking her home. To pay for a rip-roaring case of blueballs seems the height of stupidity to me.

Second of all, the aesthetics of strip clubs don't appeal to me. Most of the women can't really dance, just bump and grind. Also, most of the women have had some sort of plastic enhancement, and I find silicon to be unappealing.

Third, I just find the atmosphere a complete turn off. Desperate horny men vying for the attention of cold, calculating women, in a scenario where the biggest bucks wins, sorry, but I find the whole thing rather depressing.

I don't condemn the women who work at strip clubs, hey, I hear the money is great. And I don't condemn the men and women who patronize them. It is just not my cup of tea, never has been, never will be.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:44 PM
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13. Thanks for chiming in.
Actually many men do get satisfaction either via lapdances or illict deals made with the "dancers"... and yes there's not much "dancing" involved at these places... makes me laugh when they insist they're "dancers" not "strippers".
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:38 PM
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8. It was pathetic
Spend a lot of money and it wasn't really that interesting either. One of the show parts was that she sucked a bill off your face with her you-know-what. Of course I wanted to find out, so I put the bill on my nose and then she would pick it up. Well it happened so extraordinarily fast that I really didn't see anything. She just went down sucked up the money and was gone again. Of course I told everybody that it was great and all, but the bitch simply took the money and left :rofl:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:45 PM
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16. Ew!
That's GROSS!
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:45 PM
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14. take it or leave it
see my response to you in the other thread about this issue.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:46 PM
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17. Thanks!
:hi:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:47 PM
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18. Missing Option:
One for those who actually work as strippers! There are about a dozen on DU that I know of.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:53 PM
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20. ?
What option would that be?

"I have to go... I work there. I like it." and "I have to go... I work there. I don't like it."

:shrug:
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:55 PM
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21. Those would be good choices. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:17 PM
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24. Thanks for the suggestion!
Added to both... thanks again. :)
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:14 PM
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22. How come the ladies have twice the replies as the male version
Are we chicken??

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Apparently so, yes.
This poll has more votes, so...
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:20 PM
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25. And half the replies are made by you
So we sneak into the strip bar. Quickly looking left and right whether anybody sees us...


(I couldn't find the picture I was looking for, but this one is just as perfect)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:35 PM
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28. I have this compulsion to respond to nearly EVERY post.
It's a problem... I know. :blush:
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:43 PM
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32. It's not a problem at all
I love it when I see <1 Reply> when I press "My Posts" :loveya:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:45 PM
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34. Yay!
:woohoo:

I'm so glad there's an upside to my little non-problem... thanks for pointing it out!
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:25 PM
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26. indifferent
i'm not into the type that dance there (male or female)...

i am neither repulsed nor excited by them

meh... just meh
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:36 PM
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29. .
:hi:
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. technically i shouldn't have responded
:P

but still... i conjured to mind those stupid buff shaved chippendale types :puke:

and plastic looking women are equally blah to me

xxoo
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:46 PM
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35. hehehe
I'm all for shaved chippendale types. :9

I just don't want them close to me, and in a banana hammock. :P

XOXOXOSEXO :evilgrin:
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:27 PM
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27. i'm a straight woman
and i like strip clubs.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:36 PM
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30. Both kinds?
:shrug:
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:45 PM
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33. i like the girlie bars more
male strippers generally can't dance. at least the male strippers i've seen. the women have more grace and do bigger 'stunts'. i go, gasp, tip and take notes.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:47 PM
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36. Thanks...
interesting observation.

I'd have to agree... based on my limited exposure to male strippers, they pretty much just thrust into the air. :eyes:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:56 PM
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61. So do I and I am straight too.
But I prefer the girlie bars. Much better dancing.
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Chauga Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:47 PM
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37. A straight guy's reason for not liking them.
For me, there's not much point when every club has a no touching policy. And yes, I know some of them are whores who'll take you in the back room and let you have your way for a few bucks, but I don't want some whore. I'd rather work harder to get a lady who has a little class.
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DaBigBadJoiseyWolf Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. I am always available to help hot bi-females..........
It's just the type of guy that I am! Always willing to help, and never thinking of myself....
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DaBigBadJoiseyWolf Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:09 PM
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39. I am there for you girls as your support system to go to strip clubs
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DaBigBadJoiseyWolf Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. You don't have to thank me, I just want you to be happy.....
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:11 PM
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42. I got news for ya.
There are LOTS of "ladies" who are whores when you're not looking.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:10 PM
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40. Boring.
Redstone
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:12 PM
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43. One time when I went to one...
the guy I went with said I was "ruining it" because I was making what I suppose were rather clinical observations about the dancers. Saying stuff like, "hey notice how her boobs point outwards? I didn't know less-than-perfect women were allowed to dance here... what do you think of that?"
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DaBigBadJoiseyWolf Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:14 PM
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44. That's alright Red...the ladies always bust on the strippers...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:29 PM
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47. Don't even start... I wasn't busting I was ASKING
because MY BOOBS do the same thing.

And boy was I happy when he looked so crestfallen, after he'd said, "Why, yours don't look like that, do they?"

:eyes:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:20 PM
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45. What do I make of that? Well, actually, I think he was just
asking you to not criticize his chosen entertainment, nothing more, really. I think he would have reacted the same way if you had criticized a movies that he was interested in watching.

...Or, then again, maybe he had a real thing for outward-pointing tits, and didn't like you characterizing them as "less than perfect?"

Redstone
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DaBigBadJoiseyWolf Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:23 PM
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46. Red Baby...If you didn't like her tits that is fine! This is American!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:31 PM
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48. Nah that wasn't it...
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 03:33 PM by redqueen
he said I wasn't being "in the moment" (I think he expected me to get turned on).

He definitely did NOT have a thing for outward-pointing tits... because part of the reason I asked that question was to find out what he thought of them. The way he answered my question with a question, "Why, yours don't do that, do they?" told me what I needed to know. Mine do, in fact, do the same thing. Needless to say, he didn't get to find out for himself. :P
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DaBigBadJoiseyWolf Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:34 PM
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49. A guy just needed to relax, and enjoy the show...I don't blaim you!
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:38 PM
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58. I was joking, my dear. You know that, right?
Besides which, outward-pointing mammaries can be a real advantage, such as if you have twins...it would keep their heads from bumping into each other at dinnertime, yes?

Don't know if you're interested in my opinion or not, but if you are, size and shape of breastage is not of primary importance to me; I'm more concerned with what they're attached to. Kind of a package-deal kind of guy, I guess.

Redstone

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BroadwayBrat Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:40 PM
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50. My 2 cents
I have always loved going to the strip clubs, its a lot of fun, especially if you are just looking to unwind. Its nice to get the attention and not have to work for it!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:45 PM
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51. I was stressed.
I don't know why... glad you can relax and enjoy. :)
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ChaoticSilly Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:47 PM
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52. I haven't been to one in a while,
but I used to enjoy going every once in a while. Maybe it just a voyeuristic or curiosity thing or maybe I just had a repressed childhood, but I used to think it was cool to have a conversation with a stranger that you just saw naked. I'm not quite as shy as I used to be, but I used to think it was cool that the strippers had the guts to take thier clothes off in front of complete strangers.
:silly:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:32 PM
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55. I felt daring when I went to the couple I visited.
Like I was breaking a rule or something.

Boy that Catholic stuff really sinks in deep!
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:06 PM
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53. When I was young I did
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 04:07 PM by catmandu57
I enjoyed it then, I'd be lying if I said I didn't. I went to some classy clubs in L.A., and some dives too. I had a front row seat in one drinking a cold beer and a ladie was shaking her hoohaw in my face when I noticed some guy staring at me and if looks could kill I wouldn't be typing this now.
Later I got older and the clubs lost their appeal, I stopped drinking got into a steady relationship and as it deepened I just don't have a reason to visit them.
I'll leave it to the young hot blooded turks.

edit: lady
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:31 PM
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54. hehehehehe... "hoohaw"
:P
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:33 PM
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56. Love it - go with my friends
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:38 PM
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57. I like 'em but haven't gone to one in years.
If a woman's a real flirt with me that's when I get into it with the whole fantasy thing. But unless that's happening after I see all the girls on the nightly lineup I honestly found it kinda boring after awhile. I mean you saw all of them naked or mostly so. The mystery's gone. But if there's one that really hits my eye then it's fun.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:40 PM
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59. I love them..
whether they're old fashioned strip joints or barely dressed drag night at a gay bar. I love both of them!! To give you some perspective, there are some guys in Chattanooga who do drag that look better than the Barbie doll strippers in most joints.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:42 PM
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60. I find them...
...to be degrading to women.

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:03 PM
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62. Meh.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:16 PM
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63. I've been to a couple of places
Including a place called "Splash" in NY that had guys stripping in showers above the bar. All I could do was worry that they might slip and fall. It does absolutely nothing for me. I struck up a conversation with a guy there who turned out to be a stripper! He was a nice guy in his clothes.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:28 PM
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64. As much as I enjoy nekkidity...
...I have no plans to go. At the last military school I attended, ten years ago, I was the only one among a squad of about ten sergeants who had never been to a strip club.

Yeah, they objectify women (and men), but I see no reason to ban them. I guess I'm even glad they exist, for those who need/want them.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:24 PM
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66. Alternative to a strip club.
Drink a whole bunch of $8 beers somewhere, and then stagger over to the nearest "Victoria's Secret" with a wad of bills.

Stand in the middle of the store and rip up all your money.

Then go home.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:39 PM
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67. Now THAT was seriously funny.
Good post.

Redstone
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:47 PM
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68. You're doing it wrong... (n/t)
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