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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:15 PM
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Poll question: IS SMOKING A NASTY AND GROSS HABIT?
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:16 PM
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1. Yep.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:16 PM
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2. YES IT IS
WHAT'S WITH THE CAPS LOCKS?
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:17 PM
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3. I'M NOT SURE
WHY WHAT IS WITH YOUR CAPS LOCKS?
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:22 PM
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18. JUST RESPONDING IN KIND
THAT'S ALL.

NO NEED TO SHOUT
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:25 PM
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30. OH YEAH
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID...

LAST NIGHT. *bwahaha*
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:17 PM
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4. No, it is super cool and you shouldn't knock it until you've tried it
picking one's ass is a nasty and gross habit though.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:18 PM
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6. THE SECONDHAND SMOKE SHIT WAS ENOUGH
NO THANK YOU. SMOKING IS NOT COOL, IT'S LIKE LICKING AND KISSING A PIECE OF TRASH.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:19 PM
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10. No way! It is totally awesome.
The beginner is especially rewarded by that nicotine buzz.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:51 PM
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61. IT'S LIKE LICKING AND KISSING A PIECE OF TRASH
Oh, and like I haven't done THAT before.

You should have seen some of my old girlfriends :)
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:18 PM
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7. Plus, all the cool kids do it
And you'll never be popular unless you start smoking.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:20 PM
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13. Fuck yeah. They know the score. Drugs are sweet.
Nicotine is a drug. Therefore smoking is sweet too.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:23 PM
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23. LOL! n/t
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:21 PM
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96. HAVE tried it
glad to have that monkey off my back.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:17 PM
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5. According to Fran Lebowitz...
"Smoking is, if not my life, then at least my hobby. I love to smoke. Smoking is fun. Smoking is cool. Smoking is, as far as I am concerned, the entire point of being an adult"
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:19 PM
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9. THAT'S SAD
SMOKING IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF BEING AN ADULT?
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:19 PM
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8. No, tobacco is the most addictive drug known
Habits are breakable

500,000 deaths every year are not caused by habits
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:27 PM
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32. my aunt quit smoking.
she can do it, anybody can do it. i know it's addicting but you can quit.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:19 PM
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55. Oh, really?
Try it sometime and get back to me.

Unless you're a smoker, you have no idea how hard it is to quit. I get a little tired of non-smokers telling me to quit as if it were just as easy as putting on slippers.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:36 PM
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60. It's not easy.
Sure it isn't "easy" but a lot of things aren't easy. I have watched a lot of my family struggle for a long time to quit, and you're right. Many of my family members have died. It's not easy to watch them struggle. So I know it must not be easy to quit, or else why would they have kept going? But here's the thing you're saying... because it's not easy, people give up? That's not the right attitude for someone who genuinely cares about their health...

My aunt smoked something like 2 packs a day. Maybe 3 some days. She did it. She didn't give up. Now she's the most healthy she's ever been and got gastric band surgery, which she could have never gotten had she kept smoking. My grandmother, when she was in her 30s, quit cold turkey and never looked back- after her doctor said if she kept going she could die by her 40s. She still suffered from emphysema in older years... she just died in August at 82. For the last 6 years or so, she had to use oxygen. My uncle, died last winter, too young, in his 60s. So many health problems, but he used to smoke cigars everyday of his life. He quit, but it was too late. Now my cousin who is 16 is fatherless. His wife, my aunt, still smokes. I have 3 other aunts who smoke, and I wonder what will happen to them, one has already had breast cancer but continues to smoke. It's a reality I don't want to think about, that when they get older... their lungs will just... collapse. I mean, I guess I don't really see the benefit of something that will wreck a family, something that will kill a loved one... I just don't see it.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:12 AM
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70. I think people vary on this
Some substances are more addicting for some than others. My grandfather quit smoking when his doctor told him that he would die from it on the same day without too many bad effects. For some people, it is evident that they have a severe addiction and go through phyisical withdrawal. Any drug is like that, just as you have people who are seriously addicted to cocaine that cannot seem to quit, once they've acknowledged their negative addiction, no matter how much it is destroying them, and others who will suddenly quit as soon as they have a negative cocaine related event. I think that tobacco is probably more addictive to most people than most other drugs. On the otherhand, most tobacco users are heavy users and have smoked for many years before trying to quit.
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:19 PM
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11. I love the taste and the smell and the wonderful thing about it
is I won't go to hell for smoking!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:21 PM
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17. You won't go to Hell for smoking.....
...but you'll smell like you have been there :evilgrin:
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:24 PM
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26. Ouch!
:evilgrin:
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:01 AM
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69. If you think about it its impossible for that to be true. eom
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:20 PM
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12. Not to mention that it's unhealthy and highly addictive
and just plain idiotic for anybody to be doing nowdays, since the end results (slow painful death) are so well known. :puke:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:23 PM
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24. actually...
The death rate's still holding pretty steady at 100%, whether people smoke or not. Non-smokers don't usually die quick painless deaths either.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 08:20 PM
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53. It has has been my observation that smokers suffer from
poorer health at an earlier age.


:(
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:03 PM
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93. nothing quick and painless about lung cancer
ask me,I watched my father die from it.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:52 PM
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47. and it's
expensive too.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:21 PM
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14. Yes, it sure is!
To my credit, never tried it and even when I was a teenager I never liked it.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:21 PM
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15. Is This a Push Poll?
As nasty and gross habits go smoking is one of the more enjoyable ones.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:21 PM
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16. WHY WOULD YOU VOTE NO?
ARE YOU GUYS INSANE???
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:22 PM
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22. Because smoking is cool and lots of fun.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:25 PM
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28. smoking is cool?
Yeah. Cool like having a piece of chemicals and ash coming out of your mouth.

What exactly is cool? Do I want to be cool?
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:25 PM
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29. How
is smoking fun? It seems like an expensive hassle to me.
:shrug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:28 PM
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33. I wouldn't know much about it, I'm not a smoker
But my friends who do smoke seem to enjoy it greatly. I've had cigarettes of theirs and they've been quite good. I can see why people would enjoy smoking, it tastes good and the nicotine has a nice effect. That being said I see no reason to smoke constantly. I also enjoy the occasional cigar.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:34 PM
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40. I see.
I'll admit that I've tried smoking before and it disgusted me. It guess it's just a matter of taste. (literally)
B-)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:36 PM
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42. Well I liked it, but in light of health effects decided not be a regular..
smoker. If it were healthy to smoke, I'd chain them though.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:22 PM
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19. If you are not a smoker it is
:kick:
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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:22 PM
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20. I smoked for 40 years.
I made my family and my coworkers breathe that crap for all that time. I became really belligerent when my employer restricted my "right" to smoke. Now, I can't say I'm sorry often enough.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:22 PM
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21. YES
No offense to DU smokers, but when I get a whiff of that crap it makes me want to :puke:
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:44 PM
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44. Want to?
I've actually done it.
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Lizz612 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:24 PM
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25. The WORST part
is when the smoke drifts in your window because your dorm room is right above the front door!!!:grr:
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:27 PM
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31. Exactly
I can relate with you!
:grr:
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:24 PM
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57. That happens to me too.
The people who live below me in our apartment building go outside to smoke and talk on their cell phones. Their stinky smoke wafts into my apartment and makes me ill. I am extremely sensitive to cigarette smoke since I quit smoking almost 2 years ago. I can't stand the smell now and I feel bad that I subjected my husband and my kitty to that crap.


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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:24 PM
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27. And lest anyone forget....
Tobacco companies contribute millions to repuke campaigns. Not only are you killing yourself, you're killing the country by helping to finance DipShit's "re"election
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:29 PM
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34. You bet.
That's certainly another factor to take into consideration.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:30 PM
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37. don't buy food either
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:33 PM
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38. Depends on what food.
For instance, I try to avoid Kraft products, because they are owned by a tobacco company.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:34 PM
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39. So do the oil and gas industries
Bicycle to work? The grocery? Use a push mower? You'll live longer and pollute less.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:34 PM
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41. Don't deal with money. It's a goddamned capitalist plot!
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:29 PM
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35. it is nasty and more importantly, deadly
My Dad died from lung cancer. It is not a nice way to go. Ask George Harrison....oh, you can't because his life and talent were cut short by it.
Also, you inflict your habit on those around you and have a negative impact on their health even though they have made a decision NOT to smoke.
It is not adult...it is being the victim of brainwashing by the tobacco industry. Do yourself and those who love you a favor and quit. I understand it is hard, but why waste the money and put your life at risk? All for an image you were spoonfed by the same type of industry we liberals hate.

I hate tobacco. :nuke:
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:30 PM
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36. i hate tobacco too.
i've never touched a cigarette.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:43 PM
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43. And now for an alternative viewpoint.
I don't smoke. I never have.

My dad smoked a pipe for quite some years and still does on holidays. And he indulges in a really great cigar from time to time. Three of my 4 brothers smoke, two like chimneys with bad flues.

I have grown to associate the smell of cigarette smoke with warmth, and family gatherings. I find the smell of tobacco around a man sexy.

None of that supercedes the obvious fact that tobacco is a powerful carcinogen, and I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone. I especially don't wish for any of the people I love to suffer and fight that battle.

So, no: I don't find it a gross and disgusting habit; just a tragic one.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 08:27 PM
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54. A lot of my family has been affected by cigarettes.
Premature death, lung cancer, other cancers, increased heart problems, etc. I find that the things that cigarettes do to a body are, in fact, digusting and gross. Nasty, if you will.

There is nothing sexier than that man having cancer down the road.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:45 PM
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45. Tobacco is the revenge of the native americans whose land
was stolen from them.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:47 PM
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46. Yes it's a nasty habit, BUT
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 06:55 PM by supernova
I have been known to smoke the occasional cigar. Just ask SBP or dolo_amber. :P

And I gotta say, watching a certain someone role his own is undeniably sexy.



Expressions on film http://www.lbryandlc.com/jdindex.html
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:54 PM
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48. It isn't when you're a smoker.
When smokers finally quit permanently, they start seeing how dirty and stinky a habit it is.
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PapaClay Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:22 PM
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49. Smoking what?
:smoke:
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:28 PM
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50. Yes, it is
and it is one that I have. I don't mind non-smokers saying it's a nasty and gross habit, but it really irks me when a non-smoker says to me, "if you hate it so much, why don't you just quit?" I am of the opinion that if you've never smoked, and never been addicted to crack, heroin or speed, then it's really not your place to tell me how "easy" it is to stop.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:39 PM
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51. Smoking is where it's at,
all the hep cats and cool kittens are doing it. So get with it, don't be square be there and light up a Lucky.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 07:53 PM
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52. Yes it is, and I'm an occasional smoker.
By "occasional" I mean that I smoke about a pack per week, and I sometimes fire up the pipe with a black cavendish as well. I used to smoke about a pack per day, and tried to quit several times. I never could quite manage it, because, well.. I like it! My current habit of a few per day has been quite manageable, though. I cut back about six months ago, and I think I'll be able to quit the cigs entirely soon. I'm not giving up my pipe, though. Nothing beats coming home from work, pouring a modest amount of bourbon, listening to some good music, relaxing on my comfy chair, and lighting my pipe.

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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:20 PM
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56. OH LOOK, THE POLL IS THE SAME PERCENTAGES AS THOSE WHO DO/DON'T
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 10:21 PM by Capn Sunshine
Big surpise there
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:55 PM
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62. Actually, it isn't...most smokers will admit that it is a habit that is...
nasty, gross, and harmful to their health. I have yet to meet a smoker who will tell you, "I am glad I smoke." Have yet to meet a smoker who doesn't want to quit.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:27 PM
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58. No....
Just kind of silly, pointless, expensive and bad for your health

I gave it up after 33 years. Don't miss it.
Besides, think of all the $$$$ not going into ReTHUG pockets!
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:35 PM
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59. Yes it is disgusting, but I do it anyway.
Everyone in the free world knows that cigs are bad, and some of us, even doctors do it anyway. I don't think anything in moderation is that bad for you; and I wish I were more moderate in my habit as the pack-a-weekers or only-when-drinking folks. I'm working on it.

It may surprise you to know that I picked up smoking very late (literally, the night before I got married) and was vehemently anti-smoking before that point--to the point of throwing my friends' cigarettes in the trash.

Monkey on my back, man. I've quit 5 times and keep going back. I haven't decided yet if it is worse than heroin--not being addicted to any other drugs except coffee. One day I'll take a huge bag of weed for a little 3 day "vision quest" and come back a non-smoker. Promise.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:57 PM
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63. Yep and it's also a hard addiction to quit.A dream drug for its suppliers
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 11:03 PM by argyl
People almost always start at a very early age.Almost no one starts at thirty.Peer pressure to start is strong(this may have changed for the better since I started).It's the first,and worst,"mature" decision many a young person will make.Lots of years to spend on this highly addictive product.Little liability to speak of on the manufacturer's part,although that may be changing.There was a huge judgement against the manufacturers several years ago.An aside:Philip Morris's money problems and resultant job cutbacks cannot be blamed on Smirk,for once.Dem.Atty.General Dan Morales was one of the plaintiffs in that case,winning many millions of dollars for the State of Texas.Smirk was governor at the time and did not pocket the proceeds. As far as I know,it's still on the table.I believe it was earmarked for children's health insurance but Smirk never misses a chance to help his wealthy buddies.

My personal battle with tobacco:I quit cold turkey nineteen years ago after smoking for sixteen years and haven't had one since.The good news:more people in this country are nonsmokers than those presently smoking..The bad news:Third world countries have been heavily targeted as new markets and unfortunately they've been quite susceptible.

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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:08 PM
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64. I smoke and I voted yes. It's nasty and gross
and I think I'll go downstairs now and have one, thank you.

I had my first cigarette at age 29. Really. I was addicted to and using most everything else at the time and was homeless and barely alive, so what the fuck was a cigarette gonna hurt.

Well, 13 years later, I've quit everything else, cold turkey, booze, drugs, etc. and have tried to quit smokes many times. I once quit for a year, once 6 months. So if you have never smoked, then you have no clue. None. Your opinion of how "easy" or "hard" it is to quit is so totally meaningless that you can't even begin to think you know anything about it. Don't bother. The only thing worse than a non-smoker telling me to quit, is an ex-smoker telling me how disgusting it is and to quit.

I can read. I know it's killing me. But so is half the other shit in the world. (Ho Ho's and Mountain Dew will probably kill me first).

When I do quit for good, I just hope I'm not one of *those* ex-smokers...
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:19 PM
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65. See post 60
I never said it was easy.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:21 PM
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66. Watch your dad die from it...
And just try to not hate it...I've got breathing problems because of smoking, and I've never smoked in my life...Thanks Mom...you did give me something...
Duckie
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:25 PM
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67. No. It's hip and provides an "outlaw" image. James Dean.
And I do it to look grown up.

but now that i'm past 50.....
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 11:28 PM
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68. Smoking is a FUCKING HORRIBLE habit
that almost ruined my life. I started smoking in 6th grade, and I quit in about 4 months because I couldn't take it anymore. I coughed for such a long time after each cigarette I smoked, and I started weezing later on. I had to quit, eventually, because I started coughing up stuff and my allergies started getting really bad. So yeah, I think smoking sucks ass.

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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:14 AM
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71. With how most people smoke
I think that it alright in most ways to occaisionally smoke, averaging a cigarette or less per day. The idea of smoking a couple packs a day is disgusting and harmful. There are some occaision smokers but it seems that most are polluting themselves with a hefty amount of tar and other poisions every hour or so.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:38 AM
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72. Yes, but
Smoke whatever the hell you want, fer the love of crumb cake. And use yer Hello Neighbor!
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:40 AM
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73. Yes, and I smoke.
Goddamnit... legalized pot, guys. Get me off this tobacco shit.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:43 AM
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74. Thinkin' of startin'?
Is that why you're askin?
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 06:42 AM
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79. god no!
ugh.
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athos1126 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:39 AM
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75. Cigars are cool, cigarettes on the other hand...
Not so cool, they smell like butt.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 05:59 AM
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76. If you ever watch someone die of lung cancer you'll know!
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 06:02 AM by Hubert Flottz
Lung Cancer is "NASTY AND GROSS"! It kills almost everyone who gets it! It spreads VERY quickly to the other parts of the body even the skin and brain! Once it moves out of the lung you're as good as dead, only there is a HUGE amount of pain between then and death which usually comes in a couple of more months! I know because my Dad died in my arms as I carried him from my house to my van, to try and rush him back to the hospital!

I watched as my Dad died a little more each day, but I still haven't quit smoking! Three months after Pop found out what he had he was dead! I have tried to quit MANY times and can't! If you don't smoke DON'T EVER START! One of the last things my Dad ask me to do was to Quit smoking!

BTW, today on this very day, my Dad would have been 73 years old! He died when he was 55!
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 06:43 AM
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80. See post 60
Yeah, I know where you're coming from!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 06:12 AM
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77. its expensive
I know tons of other stuff i can spend money on instead.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 06:12 AM
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78. Yes, it's an awful habit
But I can't stop smoking.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 07:31 AM
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81. Yes it is. Will I stop? No I won't.
:)
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:41 AM
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86. You sound like my mom...
And I don't know about you...but she's the rudest smoker there ever was...And then gets mad at me for turning on the ceiling fan to circulate the air...Too bad I can't just smack her a few times...lol
Duckie
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:22 PM
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97. No, I go outside
:)
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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 07:49 AM
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82. Yep, disgusting indeed. And that's coming from a 20-a-day-man! BUT:
On the other side: Harassing those that actually are stupid enough to smoke (such as myself) is uncalled for. Leave us in peace to suck down our daily doses of nicotin, tar and general malevolence and concentrate your efforts on keeping the young away from this disease, dammit!

For my own part, I will definitely quit after my baby is born in April next year. 11 years of smoking like an idiot is enough for me, and besides, I want my children to grow up in a smoke-free environment.

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:53 AM
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83. Frankly
I don't completely trust anyone who hasn't smoked in any part of the conversation. Much as I don't trust people who haven't had an alcoholic drink to talk about drinking, or virgins to talk about sex (even about not having sex).

...Or people who haven't met God to talk about spirituality.

...Or people who haven't been in combat to talk about combat.

In other words, WTF do you know about anything? ;)
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:12 AM
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85. I don't smoke but I do know something...
I know I have life long breathing problems and asthma due to my father's three-pack a day habit...
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:42 AM
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87. Ditto...
All you have to do is grow up around it...It's rude to say we don't know anything about it...Plus, I watched my dad die when he was 61 years old because of his 3 pack a day habit.
Duckie
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:12 AM
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89. I don't want to be rude
From where I sit, it seems like you have informed opinions on breathing problems and the death of a loved one.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:03 PM
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92. Well
I know that cigarettes have torn apart and killed a lot of my family. That's pretty nasty and disgusting to me.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:01 PM
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91. I didn't harass anyone
I mean, my original question was a simple yes or no. No harassing.
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Flaming Meaux Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:57 AM
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84. It's not as bad as dipping moist snuff.
THAT, is a REALLY nasty habit.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:04 AM
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88. yes
but it's not as nasty or gross as many other things, like , oh, being a republican
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:44 AM
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90. Copied and pasted from Magic Rat's threat to yours Maggie......
Smoking is a choice....unhealthy yeah....not much unlike so many others...

Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 09:30 AM by jus_the_facts
....like driving vehicles or ingesting the chemicals you clean with or that are in the food you eat....or the paper products you use DAILY which are all poisons as well and are contaminating the planet and everyone on it....it's so interesting how passionate everyone gets about smokers when all these other chioces that are killing them and everyone around them are so easily justified....I mean we all KNOW that these other things are endangering lives and the planet but you still use them without much thought as to the hazards to yourselves or others....guess double standards and hypocracy still know no bounds.....judge not lest ye be judged and such :eyes:

on edit........so my point is we ALL make choices that evoke one of my favoite songs of Black Sabbath...KILLIN' YOURSELF TO LIVE!!:P
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:43 PM
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98. ^^thread not threat^^......and to add this also to my other comments...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 03:50 PM by jus_the_facts
....everyone will die of something and it will be just as upsetting and difficult to deal with than cancer or heart disease...diabetes...drug addictions and so on....there are perfectly healthy athletes that drop dead on the basketball court or football fields and even t.v. sitcom sets...so I reiterate that it's all relative....we're ALL guilty of doing things that are self destructive to ourselves....to others....and the planet as a whole...it's called being selfish and indifferent...nobody is perfect and we're ALL gonna DIE from something eventually regardless...to each his own choice of addiction and distruction for we all have it coming because we're ALL guilty of being alive on this planet and making choices that aren't what's best for us personally or for anyone else...and ALL are just as GUILTY because we pick and choose what we want to apply to the IDEAL of a perfect world without lookin' at the ENTIRE BIG PICTURE....every single solitary one of us...and that's just they way it is...such is life and unfortunatly death!x(
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:07 PM
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94. Buying cigarettes fills GOP campaign chests.
That's all you need to know. If you must smoke, grow your own! (And, yeah, I know there a few brands who may not be in this fish pond, but most cigs sold in the U.S.A. are swimming with Bushie and company.)
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:20 PM
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95. The occasional cigarette isn't gross...
One after another after another after.....is. Anyways, I save my lungs and money for a more fun and less addictive ritual.
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