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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 09:22 AM
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Princess Diana was murdered!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 10:14 AM by joeybee12
Anyone see Prime Time Live last night?

Pretty interesting--especially the part about Henri Paul's blood being through the roof with carbon monoxide (or was it diosxide?) which no one can explain--was the blood really his? And it's pretty obvious he was an undercover spy for MI6.

Also, he never put on the brakes, or at least the if he did, they didn't work!

God, I am now sure that they killed that intelligence guy (can't remember his name) who went to the BBC.

Any comments? Anyone catch it?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:15 AM
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1. This header was updated, since you're all so damn jaded!
I posted it asking if anyone had seen Prime Time Live last night--no response.

So I had to go for a sensational heading to get some attention!

Tabloid Journalism rules!
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alpizzy Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:29 AM
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2. Didn't see it but I wish I had....
What was the motive? Revenge? Or is the Queen just a wicked witch?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:32 AM
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3. Well, it wasn't as in depth as I had hoped...
...the only motive could be that they thought Diana as going to marry Dodi and convert to Islam, and that really screws up the succession to the throne for some reason--I'd heard about that before, and it would have meant that William could never be King.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:29 PM
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22. actually...
"I'd heard about that before, and it would have meant that William could never be King."

Actually, it wouldn't, really. As the oldest son he would be next in line, whatever his mother did next. But we don't want him anyway. We don'y want ANY of them. Bunch of half-wit inbred freeloaders. You think it's embarrassing having Arnold as a governor? Try having your country "headed" by a family of ignorant, selfish, adulterous morons!
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:53 PM
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27. Well, actually
"Try having your country "headed" by a family of ignorant, selfish, adulterous morons!"

One could argue that this IS the situation in my beloved America these days!
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:35 AM
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4. Wish I'd seen it
I read Patricia Cornwell's treatment of the Jack the Ripper case. She makes an excellent case there.

Is she going to publish a book about her research into Princess Diana's death?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 10:37 AM
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5. They didn't mention that
She did state--over and over--she had hoped she could prove that it was just an accident, but that her research just brought up more and more unanswered questions.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:07 PM
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7. Patricia Cornwell is wonderful at what she does.
She's really well written and intelligent.
Duckie
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:05 PM
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6. They say the reason is...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 12:06 PM by YellowRubberDuckie
Charles wants to marry Camilla... :puke: You know, that horse faced woman he cheated on Di with the whole time they were married? Anyway...It would look unseamly if the exwife was still alive and he remarried. Of course that logic is fucked. But who ever said just because you have money and are educated that you are actually intelligent? Oh and Di was allegedly pregnant with Dodi's child.
Duckie
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:32 PM
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8. in wouldn't be the first time in British royal history ...
to off one of its own ...

The paparazzi didn't help matters racing them through the streets of Paris ...

... but, I'd say it was murder ...
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:48 PM
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12. There's actually some question about...
whether the paparazzi were chasing them at the moment of the crash.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 02:09 PM
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14. hmmmm ... thanks!
I got off a tour bus in Paris before it returned to their base ... what a fateful decision ... in front of us were flowers (this was 7/1998) in memory of Princess Diana ... just above the underpass ... we both cried! It was so emotional.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:36 PM
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9. Like my 84 yr old Irish Dad said
Drunk jetsetters
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:44 PM
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10. I was sort of listening to it
Didn't they say something about some unusual puncture wound she had, and that they could not figure out what it was?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:21 PM
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17. Yeah, they mentioned that, but never explained it or went into detail
They skimmed oevr a lot of stuff.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 12:46 PM
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11. The show brought forth some questions.
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 12:58 PM by HuckleB
But mostly it was just tabloid hype. The content did not match the advertising. More explanation of the carbon monoxide issue was needed, but was not forthcoming. Further, offering the driver's tab as evidence that he couldn't have been "that" drunk is skating on very thin ice. The guy worked for the hotel. He likely didn't pay for many drinks, there or elsewhere. Nevermind that he could easily pour his own, or have his own flask. Then, the bit about "a clandestine meeting" with the former British spook was just bizarre. It made all four us who were watching laugh our asses off. Yeah, she had to go to southern France to meet with him in secret. Ohhhh. Shhhh. Don't tell anyone. Nevermind that the spook's history puts his "testimony" under serious question. Anyway, it was great entertainment, but not much more than that.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:19 PM
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15. I agree that it was mainly hype...
...but look at the history of British royalty--offing competition--it's not like the House of Windsor (a name made up at the beginning of the 20th century) goes back hundreds of years. They kill each other, that's the history of royalty, so I wonder why anything should be any different today.

I sort of shurgged off the conspiracy theory when I first heard about it, but now I'm not so sure.

One thing is sure, if there ever is an inquest, it will never answer all the questions.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:22 PM
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18. Yeah, we'll likely never know.
I definitely lost a great deal of respect for Cornwell, though. She didn't have an hour worth of material, by a long shot. Yet, she lent her name to pull in ratings. I'm not saying that's a great sin, but it does diminish the seriousness with which she seems to want to be taken.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:36 PM
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26. Yeah, she repeated herself--and never got around to that
supposed wound in Diana's hip, or thereabouts that can't be explained. Also, as I just posted--follow the money--did Henri Paul really have all those bank accounts?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:20 PM
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16. And I don't buy your theory about drinks
This is the Ritz--they'll keep close tabs on what he drinks--there has to be a bill--some could be comped later, but they will write down and charge him for what he drinks.

I'm disappointed they didn't go into how much money henri Paul had--they kept saying he had a lot more than he could justify by his salary, but they never went into details.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:24 PM
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20. He worked at the Ritz.
No one's keeping close tabs on an employee of his stature. Employee's and fellow industry colleagues traditionally offer drinks off the tab to one another. That's not a theory. That's practice.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:34 PM
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25. My point is that it's the Ritz....
...not Motel 6--they'd keep closer tabs on things.

Anyway, the big tie-in would be those bank accounts he supposedly had. If they had shown for sure (other than just mentioning it) that he had scads of money, they really would have sold me. He's the type of guy the MI6 would want as a spy--access to the rich and famous.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:55 PM
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28. Closer doesn't mean much in the hospitality biz.
People drink on the job, and employees help one another to do it for free. Believe me. As for the bank accounts, they seemed to show that he didn't have nearly as much money as some have claimed, which actually weakened the original argument that the show pushed forth. Any way you look at it, this piece doesn't mean all that much, unless one is going to believe that he was a suicide murderer. And the show wouldn't even go there. He may have been involved with spooks elsewhere, but I don't see what that has to do with the scenario of murder in this case. And Cornwell never even tried to make that connection.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:23 PM
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13. While I wouldn't put anything past those screwy Royals,
for instance, they used Hitler tactics of trying to pin a label of 'mentally unstable' on anyone who stepped out of line, I have a hard time believing this was murder. There are too many other variables, and too many other ways of killing her if they had wanted to.

But who knows? I have a lot of respect for Patricia Cornwall.
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:22 PM
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19. casebook.org tore Cornwell's Ripper theory to pieces
a few months back. They're the ripper experts. I'd be a little wary of her theories. It's a great site, check it out.

http://www.casebook.org/
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:25 PM
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21. Yeah, that show drove me nuts, too.
I kept asking questions out loud about her statements. But she never answered them. The holes were incredibly large. I wish I could remember it in more detail. Perhaps the site has done that.
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:31 PM
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23. She linked Walter Sickert to a possible Ripper letter
and pronounced it 'Case Closed'. That's pretty breathtaking for a practically unsolvable case that has stumped people for 115 years.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 03:33 PM
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24. I will agree about that show--seems like she had a theory, and was
trying to fit the evidence into it.

Never read any of her books.
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