Finish this sentence: A REAL man...

[Redstone]

(I'll go first) ...would never, ever hit a woman. Unless the woman was trying to kill him, or somebody else.

Your turns.

Redstone

[distantearlywarning]

1. A REAL man...

...doesn't obsess over the sexual orientation of other men.

[hippiepunk]

2. isn't

a Republican

[Mizmoon]

3. eats HUNGRY MAN DINNERS!!!

Good God I'm programmed! :P

[WindRavenX]

4. is a feminist

And isn't afraid to say so.

[mark414]

7. and at the same time

remembers that chivalry isn't dead

[WindRavenX]

13. fuck chivalry

If you do it beause you think you have to do it because of you're a man, it's bullshit.
Do it because you'd do it for anyone else, not just for women.

[Xipe Totec]

27. I Think Chivalry is Misunderstood

It's not about being a man, it's about being a gentleman. It is about having a sense of obligation to serve others, men, women, children, or God's dumb creatures.

Chauvinism is a different story.

[WindRavenX]

36. It reinforces gender roles

I have huge issues with this notion of men having to serve women because they're men- like I said, I have no problems with courtesy, because that's gender nuetral and EVERYONE should be polite to one another. You know, hold the doors open, say please and thank you.
I do not want to have my meal paid for.
I do not need to have the door held open for me just because I'm a chick.
I've deal with men who had the mentality that they HAD to protect me because they were the dood and I was the chick- that shit pisses me off like no other.
Sorry for the rant, but this really irks me.

[mark414]

47. i know what you're saying

but that's not what i meant

i don't do it because i think women can't or shouldn't do it (whatever "it" is)

i do it because i think women are goddesses and deserve to be treated as such...

i would never try to prevent a woman from doing something that men are "supposed" to do though...

i guess it is my own little way of saying "sorry for how badly men have fucked up this planet"

[WindRavenX]

65. I know, I know

But really, we don't need guys to tell us how awesome we are- we already know =)
I'd split a dinner with you annnyytime :evilgrin:

Sorry if I came across harsh. I've had some nasty run ins with the "I'm a dood I need to do everything" sort of deal.
Such as:
"I won't let you pay for anything. You're my girl." Oh no he di'int!

[Redstone]

55. So you won't let me open a door for you?

You won't let me buy you dinner?

I'm disappointed. And crushed.

Redstone

[Left Is Write]

58. I'd let you buy me dinner, but I wonder...

what Mrs. R. and Mr. LiW would have to say about it. ;)

[Redstone]

79. Let's not consider those specific consequences,

shall we? There are things best left to the imaginaton...

Though I'm certainly flattered.

Redstone

[WindRavenX]

64. if you do it because you want to-

Heck yes, of course.
But I refuse to let men buy things for me just because they feel like they have to. It shifts the power to the man, and I dislike that; a relationship should be 50/50, which is why I always split the bill =)

[Redstone]

86. Why else would I do it, except for wanting to...

No reason to complicate life beyond what it already is...

Redstone

[WindRavenX]

90. You're right

But you'd be suprised how many men DO complicate matters by saying they HAVE to over WANTING to.

[lenidog]

113. Very true!!

Now I buy things for my girlfriend because I want to and I see something that I think she would enjoy and it can be anything from earings, to a book by her favorite author, or a candy bar I know she likes. On the other hand she does the same with me.

[Xipe Totec]

91. I open the door for my manager

Not because she is a chick, but as a sign of respect to her station.

That is chivalry.

What you are describing is Chauvinism and that would irk me too.

It is all about the meaning of the act, and that depends on the social contract between you and the other person.

[Maddy McCall]

5. A real man admires strong, independent women.

[lenidog]

116. In my mind I can't see how anyone could not love and admire

a strong, independent, and intelligent woman.


Just had to add the intelligent because I find that VERY sexy in a woman.

[BrklynLiberal]

6. has no idea what it takes to be a real man, and does not care.

He is sefl-confident enough not to worry about his masculinity, and yet not afraid to show a "feminine" side and certainly is not afraid to share his life with a woman of equality.

[Robeson]

8. ...has male genetalia.

[jeff30997]

9. A REAL man would not support that asshole:

[GirlinContempt]

10. a REAL man

Has a penis, in some shape or form, and enjoys having it.

(could be fake or real, etc) :P

[patrice]

11. doesn't need to be a hero.

[yvr girl]

12. A REAL man can be strong

and gentle.

[evlbstrd]

14. can be himself.

[Say_What]

15. "Stong Men Don't Bully"

Bumper stickers and bill boards seen around Gloucester, MA

[SarahB]

16. Is not afraid to take chances!!!!

[Zomby Woof]

20. Bam!

:D

[Bok_Tukalo]

17. is known as such the minute he walks into a room

<ope>

[DS1]

18. Here's a joke a mega-fundie publican once told me

How does a REAL man know when a woman comes?




....



A REAL man doesn't care

[WindRavenX]

21. ick

:puke:

[SarahB]

22. "mega-fundie publican"?

Why am I not surprised? :eyes:

[Hand]

50. Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite.

Bummer; now I'll never make a mega-fundie... on the other hand, the babes LOVE my ass. Cold comfort... :crazy:

[Left Is Write]

19. Isn't afraid to apologize when warranted.

[amandabeech]

23. and admits his mistakes!

I guess that rules out the chimpinator-in-chief.

[Left Is Write]

25. Yes, it surely does.

[SarahB]

24. Good one.

In case the ex-Mr. Belle is ever still lurking, that one's for you! Bam 2!!!

[all.of.me]

26. can we only list one thing?!

a real man...

can be honest about his feelings
is gentle
is not afraid of intimacy
has a sense of humor
can not drink me under the table
does not roll over and fall asleep after an orgasm

[NoSheep]

46. Lets me fall asleep after mine!

:blush:

[all.of.me]

62. as it should be!

sweet.

;)

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. Changes diapers

[nini]

29. Is not afraid of a real, strong woman

They're a perfect match :D

[Tsiyu]

30. is a lovely thing to behold

He doesn't have to be in control of all around him

He brightens up the scene....B-)

[Floogeldy]

31. Holds in his farts in an elevator

B-)

[Redstone]

33. Got any other thread killers for us tonight?

Redstone

[Floogeldy]

42. I'll try.

B-)

[Redstone]

45. I know you will. Seen this post?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3459876&mesg_id=3459924

Redstone

[Floogeldy]

53. And what does this make you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3453011&mesg_id=3453011

B-)

[Redstone]

67. It makes me, if you want to know the truth, a guy who

has had his ass kicked more times than he can remember because he could never resist getting between a bully and the bully's victim.

The bullies were always big and strong, and I was always the skinny, brainy, quiet kid. the one they never looked out for. But it didn't matter to me. Some things are worth fighting, and suffering for.

And if you want to equate my post defending poor, shy little elshiva with your asshole bullying behavior, go ahead and do so. It takes not much of a man to pick on a girl. If that makes you feel like more of a man to do so, be my guest.

That would tell me what kind of a man you are.

If you really, truly, feel that it's the same thing for you to pick on a girl, using the kind of vile, ugly language you did, and for me to call you out mano a mano for doing so, then I've just gotten a real insight into your character.

And I'm not sure I like what I see. I thought we were supposed to be a comunity here.

Redstone

[BikeWriter]

71. I don't know if you noticed, but I'd stepped in between her...

and another poster, too. Does that make me a bully? I don't think so. Maybe you do. :shrug:

[Floogeldy]

80. Have you seen this one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x3452663#3454034

B-)

[Redstone]

85. Yeah, I saw it. What did that shy little girl say

that SO offended your manhood, that you had to respond to her like a big, strong man who was going to beat the hell out of her until he made her cry in public?

I've listened to enough of your manipulative bullshit. What's your REAL agenda here? Whatever it is, you feel it's important enough to break all the bounds of civility...what IS it that's so important?

I hope it's important enough that you don't feel any shame for what you did to her. I hope you can sleep tonight with that knowledge.

Redstone

[BikeWriter]

87. I think we should drop those discussions, Floogeldy.

Two threads are closed.

[Redstone]

88. Words of wisdom.

I'm off to bed now.

You take care, hoss.

Redstone

[BikeWriter]

89. Okay, Pard. Have a good night. :-)

[Lars39]

32. is his own man.

He thinks things out for himself and doesn't have to have the "Hey, Bubba, watch this" crowd's approval.

[sparky_in_ma]

34. A Real Man would have my dad's qualities.

Honesty. Chivalry. Courtesy. He treats everyone with respect, regardless of gender, race, religion, or sexual preference.

[Canadian Socialist]

70. Sparky!

Were we separated at birth? You just described my dad. He (and my mum - both amazing people in their own rights, btw) never told me I couldn't do something simply because I was a girl. They just wanted me to be happy in what I did/do with my life. FYI, they're both elderly (dad-79, mum-82) and they are the most open minded people I know. And, I take their opinions to heart, because they've been there, done that. Too long a story to get into here. Let's just say, my dad was born & raised in India, met my mother in Korea, got married in Scotland, then immigrated to Canada. Did I mention they are both of Scottish descent? They've travelled the world, as have I and my siblings. We know what it's really like outside of our comfortable North American lifestyle.

[sparky_in_ma]

73. : )

I'm glad you had good role models too. My dad is 78, mom 77. They were childhood sweethearts and have remained sweethearts. We never heard him raise his voice once to my mom, nor her, him.

[Canadian Socialist]

75. My parents did raise their voices at each other

but they preferred to call them "spirited discussions". They were both relatively old when they were married. Mum - 30; dad - 27. She was a Canadian nursing sister during the Korean war, dad was an officer in the British army. I think that their age then, and now, has a lot to do with their liberal views. They still have, of course, certain ideas that are generational but for the most part, I have no complaints. They still keep travelling (my mum says we (meaning me and my siblings) better start making more money, because she and dad are going through our "inheritance" as fast as they can <lol>. Case in point, last year they travelled to India for a couple of months. Dad wanted to visit where he grew up. Mum just came back from Winnipeg from her 60th!!! reunion of her nursing class. When I spoke to her on Monday, she complained that those remaining looked old!!?!!. Hello, mum? You ladies are in your 80s. That's the sort of parents I have.

[sparky_in_ma]

77. LOL

My folks go to Florida in the winter and joke about the "white tops".

[Canadian Socialist]

82. My mum discovered gambling

about 10 years ago. Now keep in mind, this woman was brought up a Scotch Baptist. They didn't even dance! So now, they go to the casinos in the lower mainland. Dad gives mum $100, then goes and sits in a comfortable chair and reads while she gambles. To those who might think that my mum doesn't have her own money, that's not true. It's just the way she controls the gambling losses. She's limited herself to $100 a day. They used to go down to the states (they liked Reno) but they have refused to do this for, while I guess, 5 years. Coincidence? I think not.

[JVS]

35. doesn't let his proper behavior be decided by others

[Lydia Leftcoast]

37. A REAL man never says

"Real men don't eat quiche/go to the opera/do housework/whatever." :-)

[sparky_in_ma]

51. It's in the book

Real men don't eat quiche. Even if they like it. It can cause impotence.:+

[swag]

38. has big luscious tits.

[Wapsie B]

39. isn't afraid to show his strength

by being sensitive to the needs of others.

[johnnie]

40. Doesn't give a shit what other people say.

[Amaya]

41. A REAL man ...

does his own laundry and makes me a cup of coffee.

:)

[Redstone]

43. Do you want sugar in that coffee? Milk?

Redstone

[Amaya]

54. half & half, no sugar

Thank you! :)

[Redstone]

60. On the way, my dear.

Least I can do for a woman such as yourself.

Are you comfortable there? Could you use another pillow or two? I could bring them in when I bring the coffee.

Redstone

[LynzM]

44. A REAL man....

Can realize that he was wrong, and offer an apology. A real man does not obsess about what others think of him. A real man can be both tough and gentle. He can change both tires and babies. He is considerate of others, but would kick the asses of those who threatened his family. That's all that comes to mind, at the moment :)

[JimmyJazz]

49. Yowza! That was a good answer!

[LynzM]

52. Thanks, JJ

I've dated or known enough guys who fail in so many of those... sadly.

[JimmyJazz]

56. But you've got yourself a REAL man now --- He's a KEEPER!

:D

[LynzM]

59. For sure.

No question on any of the things I listed. Plus he makes me laugh, which is also important!

[Redstone]

69. That real man sound a lot like what I know about

your husband.

He's a keeper, isn't he?

Redstone

[LynzM]

96. Yup, it certainly does.

I was telling him about this thread last night, and he said "do I meet most of those criteria?" and I said "of course, silly, you're what I based it on :)"

He's definitely a keeper :bounce:

[NoSheep]

48. is a person first.

[MissMillie]

107. I like this answer!

It's the best answer I've seen yet.

[swag]

57. has had more than one encounter with a Hitachi Magic Wand

[Darth_Kitten]

61. ain't fake?

;) :evilgrin:

[BearClaws]

63. Will..

Do the dishes, make the bed, drive the kids to school, tell his family that he loves them, will cry at funerals and at a good sad movie, but the one thing a real man will never do is buy Kotex.

[Redstone]

74. BUZZZZ.....Not true.

Mrs R. always asks me if I really mind if I pick up those "sanitary supplies" for her when I go to the drugstore.

I don't find it a problem at all. It's just life, and furthermore I do have my "red wings." With Oak Leaf Cluster.

Redstone

[BikeWriter]

76. Been there done that, AND bought cat food on the same trip to the store.

[deadparrot]

66. George W. Bush is not. nt

[Placebo]

68. ...takes it up the ASS!

you simply can't argue otherwise

[flaminbats]

72. ...mortuus erat

[blue neen]

78. A REAL man respects himself,

and in turn respects women.

Gawd, I love a real man.

[barb162]

81. loves cats

[swag]

83. has taken drugs you've never even heard of.

[Redstone]

117. I like that one. Enough to steal it and use it sometime,

Redstone

[swag]

119. Consider it yours, good man.

[biscodawg]

84. unless she posted a picture thread when there is already another one going

nt =D

[Sugar Smack]

92. A real man is kind.

A real man enjoys and benefits from friendships and relationships.

An "adult boy" likes the chase and disappears once his affections are reciprocated. He flatters and runs.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

93. is a lot like me

[Seabiscuit]

94. A REAL man eats quiche because he doesn't boycott France over Iraq

despite the book to the contrary ("Real Men Don't Eat Quiche")

[unhappycamper]

95. loves his family and puts them first. Always.

[flvegan]

97. A real man stands up and gets counted for what matters.

Be it to defend those that cannot defend themselves, or in assistance to support those that need him to do so.

A real man isn't violent.

A real man knows that he is, indeed, a real man, and doesn't need to show it or be reminded of others of same.

A real man volunteers.

A real man leads by example.

A real man would never drive a Hummer.

[GOPisEvil]

98. To Be A Man - By Boston

Since there are so many good answers, I went with song lyrics. :P

Words by Scholz

What does it take to be a man?
What does it take to see
It’s all heart and soul
A gentle hand?
So easy to want and so hard to give
How can you be a man
’till you see beyond the life you live?
Oh, what does it take to be a man?

We can be blind, but a man tries to see
It takes tenderness
For a man to be what he can be
And what does it mean
If you’re weak or strong?
A gentle feelin’
Can make it right or make it wrong
What does it take to be a man?

The will to give and not receive
The strength to say what you believe
The heart to feel what others feel inside
To see what they can see

A man is somethin’ that’s real
It’s not what you are
It’s what you can feel
It can’t be too late
To look through the hate and see
I know that’s what a man can be

[drdon326]

99. A REAL man....SLEEPS IN THE WET SPOT !!

.

[sniffa]

100. isn't afraid to admit how great i am

[BiggJawn]

101. ...Doesn't worry about being a "Real" Man.

What the fuck IS a "Real Man", anyway?
Be respectful, be kind, and live up to your commitments.
Anything else is Marketing.

[last_texas_dem]

108. I like this answer

Because it's something I feel like I can realistically work to be. I just wish more people thought this way.

[Phentex]

102. can find the mayo in the fridge.

[progmom]

103. ...isn't afraid to express his feelings.

[SarahB]

104. Another good one!

For all the expressive, sappy men out there-> :thumbsup: :loveya: :thumbsup:

[BikeWriter]

105. Sometimes loses my socks.

[tarkus]

106. Supports a woman's right to choose and, according to Mulan...

Must be as swift as a coursing river,
with all the force of a great typhoon,
with all the strength of a raging fire...
mystrerious as the dark side of the moon!

My friends and I use that song to warm up for lacrosse games. They still don't play much, and as the manager I don't play at all, but whatever.

[BlueIris]

109. takes care of any children he might help put on this earth.

Instead of leaving the job of raising them up to the woman who gave birth to them. This includes changing poopy diapers and not pretending to be asleep while the children are babies and crying a lot at night. It also includes doing his share of reading bedtime stories, helping with homework, shuffling them around to doctor's appointments, afterschool activities and college dorms/apartments. You, out there, real men You know what kind of pitiful sub-human I'm posting about.

[Beware the Beast Man]

110. isn't hung up on what makes a real man, or woman.

[Taverner]

111. Will push himself to the limit, just to say he did

[Merrick]

112. lies on the couch all day and...

communicates his needs and desires to his servile woman with crude grunts and hand gestures.

[lenidog]

114. Will clean the house without being asked to

;-)

[lenidog]

115. Don't forget that a real man wont EVER beat a child

[Redstone]

118. Good God, of COURSE not. You'd think that would go without saying,

but unfortunately it doesn't. Thanks for mentioning it.

Redstone

[Xipe Totec]

120. Just for the Record,

Some years ago, one of my neighbors was traveling with his family and was involved in a highway accident. The car rolled over and his family was trapped while the car began to burn. He dragged his wife out of the car, went back pulled one of his children out of the car, now fully engulfed, then went back a third time to rescue the last of his children. The car exploded and he and his second child died in the ensuing explosion.

That is the crucible that defines a real man for me; one who is prepared to give his life for his loved ones. As for the rest, it's just dressing.

[Redstone]

121. Truer words may never have been spoken

than those in the last sentence of your message. Thank you for posting that.

Redstone