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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:58 AM
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My theory on "Pretty White Girl in Aruba"...
She left the bar with a belly full of booze and some guys and went to the beach.

"Oooh! let's go skinny-dipping! this water's crazy-good warm!"

(splash-splash giggle!)

"Hey! Where's the chick?"
"I dunno, she was here a minute ago..."

Not any crazier than what else is out there, eh?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:58 AM
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1. you Left out
"shit, Let's bLame on the bLack guys who work at the hoteL"
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:00 AM
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3. Yep!
Actually, I used to think the son of the Aruban judge offed her because she didn't put out, but then I got to thinking...

Your scenario is much more plausible.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:59 AM
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2. Pretty damn good theory, BiggJawn.
Though you'd think the apprehended guys would be willing to offer that up as an explanation - unless they're just scared.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:04 AM
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4. I've thought the same; instead of these guys telling the
truth, or what they remember of it, they've dug themselves a deeper hole. And the girl is very possibly fish food by now.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:06 AM
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5. good thinking sherlock
except where's the body?

eventually....more sooner than later...it would wash up on the beach...

next time leave the detective work to the pros...like columbo...or kojak...or madigan...ok?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:16 AM
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8. A lot of sharks in those waters, I believe.....
There may not be a body to find, if that's the case.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:17 AM
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10. even in shark attacks...unless she was out in the middle of the ocean...
parts would wash up...and parts is parts
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:57 AM
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14. Nonsense.
More likely than not she would have been swept out to see or sunk to the bottom, where she very quickly would have been eaten by marine life of all sorts, and no distinguishable parts would have washed ashore.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:05 AM
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19. they always wash ashore in the movies
and the movies wouldn't lie...would they?
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:06 AM
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20. You bring up a valid point.
And there should be an important and mysterious clue that points our heroes to the killer placed somewhere on the perfectly intact portions of her body.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:08 AM
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22. otherwise
where would there be the opportunity for the rookie to vomit while the old pro looks on and says...i remember when i saw my first dead dismembered body...
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:01 PM
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36. Looks like later
I think she very well could've drowned and washed out. If the high tide was in it could take her way out and not even come back there but another place.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:13 AM
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6. Something occurred to me - did anybody check Gitmo?
then it hit me - Blonde. Never mind. She would have stuck out like the Washington Monument in Amish country.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:14 AM
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7. Shark!
:o
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:16 AM
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9. I personally think she was drugged and what happened
after that is questionable!!
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:19 AM
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11. We were in BVI last week-that theory is as good as any!
:think:
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:51 AM
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12. I'm going with the CSI version....
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 10:52 AM by Phentex
she leaves the bar with the three guys and they head to a secluded spot on the beach. She's drinking and fooling around with the dutch boy but the others want in on the action. They slip something into her drink but the dutch boy drinks some of it as well. They talk her into going for a swim with them, but as she's walking toward the sea, she slips and falls to the ground, appearing to have passed out. The men take advantage of her.

They decide to leave her there. The dutch boy passes out in the car. What they don't know is that when the girl fell, she hit her head on an abandoned anchor. The dutch boy remembers "something bad happened to the girl" but since he passed out, he can't recall what he saw.

cue theme music

The next day, poachers of the highly endangered Aruba Island rattlesnake, discover one of the largest serpents ever known to exist. The men split open the snake and find a pair of earrings and a toe ring. (The neurotoxic component of the snake's venom allowed the body of the girl to be completely digested.)

One of the men, who works as a security guard at a nearby hotel, gives the earrings and the toe ring to his girlfriend. Marg Helgenberger spots the woman in a cafe where she's having lunch and immediately recognizes the earrings from pictures provided by the girl's family.

"Gil, I've got something. I think you better see this...."
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:55 AM
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13. More than likely that's what happened.
Shortly before that happened there was local middle class brunette that went missing after a house boat party at Lake Shasta (bet you didn't hear about that on Nancy Grace.) Police found her corpse a week or so later, she had wandered into the woods and hung herself.

I'm pretty sick and tired of how every time there's an attractive woman missing they assume she's been raped and murdered by a minority.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:57 AM
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15. Well the guy is not a minority in Aruba!
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:58 AM
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16. The first several people arrested were.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:32 AM
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27. Here is something to read concerning race in Aruba
It's interesting how Americans think. I think it is another case of "America is always the smartest". A lot of Americans jump to the conclusion that these men were picked up because of race, but yet that is the way we think. We are still more racist than most of the countries out there. With all respect, your remark proves that: "I'm pretty sick and tired of how every time there's an attractive woman missing they assume she's been raped and murdered by a minority.".

Something to think about:
"Julia Renfro, editor of Aruba Today, an island newspaper, said her publication received more than 200 e-mails from Americans after police arrested John and Jones.

"These horrible e-mails, just horrible," Renfro said. "They were from both blacks and whites from there in the United States, only the United States, criticizing Aruba and how they planned to never set foot on Aruba ever again ... because of the cruelty against these two security guards, how it was so obvious to anyone around the world ... that this was discrimination."

Renfro, a white American who has lived in Aruba for 15 years and is the mother of biracial children, said racial profiling does not have the same foothold on the island nation that it does in the United States.

"Aruba's colorblind," she said of the nation heavily dependent on the tourism industry.

"Interracial ... is not a word we would use here," she continued. "It doesn't exist. Most of the marriages are mixed. All of the children are mixed. Nobody can say I'm black, I'm white."

She insisted the reasons behind the guards' arrest had nothing to do with race.

"Locally there was never even a mention or a breath of concern that this was a racial issue nor a status issue," Renfro said."


More here:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/06/15/aruba.arrests/index.html?section=cnn_latest


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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:37 AM
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28. I'm not talking about the motives of the Aruba police...
i'm talking about the racist American media and their racist audience.
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:02 AM
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17. How do you explain them finding her panties and a bunch of duct tape
rolled up in a ball in the bushes by the hotel. I'm afraid something more sinister happened in this case.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:04 AM
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18. Were they confirmed her panties?
Last I heard, somebody had just found a discarded pair of panties and the media was going nuts.
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:14 AM
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25. It was reported on KFI radio that they were her panties, HOWEVER,
KFI is the official radio home of 'Fox News' so in retrospect, I don't know if it was confirmed or they just stated it like it was a fact.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:18 AM
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26. Yeah, I'd wait for forensic evidence on that.
It'd be easy enough to obtain, especially if the duct tape was used to bind someone. I'd expect the bushes behind a hotel to be littered with all sorts of discarded clothing and junk.

With the early false arrests, it looks like the Aruba police really have nothing to go on and are pretty far out of their league.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:59 AM
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35. But when were they placed there?
And how are they so sure they were last on HER tushie? There must be THOUSANDS of pink panties on Aruba! Probably millions of them left behind since it became a wild party hotspot.

Wonder how many pairs of ownerless panties the housekeepers of Las Vegas pick up every week?

Nancy Grace would probably run with that. "A pair of empty panties...Yep they HAVE to be HERS! GET A ROPE!!!!"
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:08 AM
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21. They slipped her something
later she woke up while ....well later she woke up-they freaked and killed her probably dumped her body WAY off shore.

Sadly that is probably what happened.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:09 AM
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23. That is kind of what I think happened!!
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:09 AM
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24. You think?
I think drunken midnight swims are a lot more common.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:46 AM
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29. I don't even think she needed to have been drugged
That dutch boy had been hanging around, so was familiar. I'm thinking it's a 'things got a little out of control so they killed her in a panic' scenario. If they dumped her in the ocean, she will surface eventually.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:47 AM
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30. this was no boating accident!
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:49 AM
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31. How do you know?
Is there real evidence either way?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:51 AM
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32. umm, that's a quote from the movie Jaws
Richard Dreyfuss, examining the remains of a shark-attack victim . . .
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:53 AM
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34. Oh, right.
Kind of an obscure one there.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:02 PM
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37. sorry
I'm old
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:52 AM
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33. maybe it was a shark attack
and CoNN and MSRNC can kill two birds with one stone
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Old_Fart Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:08 PM
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38. White slavery?
Aruba is suppose to have a white slavery ring and she could have possibly been sold into it.

What I think is that the high up official has cleaned up the crime scene and his boy is going to get off in a different kind of way. Daddy will spank him after he gets out and life will go on until the next girl vanishes.
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