4 % of UFO reports cannot be explained.

[Swede]

Let's hear some now.

[BattyDem]

1. Best known case: Betty and Barney Hill

"The story of Betty and Barney Hill is the most famous abduction case. Betty and Barney were the first individuals in modern history to state publicly that they were abducted by extraterrestrials. They couple were taken aboard an extraterrestrial craft and were there exposed to examination and operation."

"The most remarkable with the case is the fact how Betty could draw a detailed sketch of the star system Zeta Reticuli which is in the Reticulum constellation, 6 years before astronomers even discovered it!"

http://www.ufoarea.com/abduction_betty_barney.html

[Deep13]

2. I'm pretty sure that has been de-bunked ...

... by Randy or Sagan or someone. Anyway, a random selection of dots is bound to look like some astronomical star field.

[BattyDem]

4. Really? I recently saw a UFO special on TV ...

that was still reporting that story as fact. I never heard that it was debunked. :shrug:

[Archae]

6. It was debunked.

Several points the "pro-flying saucer" people like to ignore:

1. Barney and Betty Hill were an interracial married couple during the 1950's, and had a lot of stress as a result.

2. Betty Hill's sister, who Betty was very close to, was an avid reader of the most lurid UFO publications.

3. When the TV-movie was first aired, Barney and Betty Hill's psychiatrist embarrased the network by saying on their morning program that it was simply made up.

4. Betty Hill claimed to have been "abducted" several times after, including one time when she was with a group of friends.

[BattyDem]

8. Thanks for the info. I never knew it was debunked.

I always learn something here at DU! :toast:

By the way, you're right. The UFO special I saw didn't mention any of the info you posted. I guess it was produced by "pro-flying saucer" people, LOL!

[Kraklen]

9. Pretty easy to debunk.

Betty Hill's "map" was just a series of random dots, which a "scientist" claimed was the same pattern as a star map. Simply looking at comparisons of the maps show that they really don't look that much alike at all. It's like that John Edwards psychic guy who says he's thinking of the letter "m" and then people fill in the blanks themselves.

I myself have never seen a UFO special on TV that didn't include material that has been debunked time and again.

[BattyDem]

10. I'm not really a UFO buff, so I don't keep track of the debunkings ...

I guess I always figured that if the info was in new TV specials, it was pretty accurate (especially when airing on channels like Discovery or TLC) ... but obviously that's not the case. It seems like everything on TV these days is pure propaganda. :eyes:

[Deep13]

11. Sagan explained it during one of the Cosmos episodes.

I forgot which one.

Anyway, and I hate to have to write something that is so plain, but those shows are just for entertainment. They prove nothing. You don't know what the evidence is. You cannot ask your own questions. You cannot even be sure that the people on TV are not just acting out a script.

[arwalden]

12. Here's A Good Review Of The Hill's Story

http://www.thetriangle.org/media/paper689/news/2005/04/15/SciTech/Ufo-couple.Use.Story.To.Spark.Alien.Abduction.Fear-926219.shtml

[Deep13]

3. So what?

A lack of an explanation is not evidence of anything.

[Swede]

14. Well curiosity dude.

I want to know. The truth is out there.

[micrometer_50]

5. The Travis Walton UFO Abduction Case

http://anw.com/fire/GPriceReport.htm

By Geoff Price
Introduction
On November 5th, 1975, one of the more persistently controversial UFO
events in history took place in northeastern Arizona. A work team consisting
of seven individuals reported encountering a reflective, luminous object the
shape of a flattened disc hovering close to their truck on a remote dirt road
in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest. According to the crew, one of their
members, Travis Walton, exited the truck and approached the object on foot,
at which time he was allegedly struck by a brilliant bluish light or flash and
hurled to the ground some distance away. In fear, the other crew members
fled the scene, returning after a short period of time to find no trace of the
UFO, or of Walton.

[Archae]

7. More percents voted for Bush.

Explain that! :-)

[Floogeldy]

13. Who explained the other 96%? And why should I believe them?

B-)

[steely]

15. If they were explained, then they wouldn't be un-identified.

I always thought that was funny.

[norml]

16. Mysterious Texas lights draw crowds

Posted 7/16/2005 12:43 PM

Mysterious Texas lights draw crowds
MARFA, Texas (AP) — Nevada has Area 51. New Mexico has Roswell. Texas has the Marfa Lights.


Fern Teems points to what she believes may be one of the mystery lights near Marfa, Texas.
Donna McWilliam, AP

Whatever's out there sparkling or dancing across Mitchell Flat and toward the Chinati Mountains has both befuddled people and attracted them to this remote area east of Marfa for well over a century.

They start converging about dusk on a desolate spot in the West Texas desert with a ridge view and an expanse of some 20 miles of treeless rangeland.

A few bring lawn chairs. Some find a spot on concrete picnic tables. Others lean against a brick wall.

With darkness toward to the east and the remnants of a spectacular sunset to the west, the first cries erupt.

"Look! Look!"


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-16-marfa-lights_x.htm

[chaska]

17. MY PERSONAL STORY:

I really don't have a lot of interest in this stuff but here goes anyway....

When I was about 9, my family (mother, me and brother) heard a loud noise so we went outside to see what it was.

Down at the end of the block hovering 15 ft. above the intersection was a round craft about 12 ft. in diameter, classic saucer shape, with a bunch of multicolored lights all around. We stood almost directly under it. I seem to recall there was some wind from it, but not all that strong. I can't say how it was powered. No clue there. But it hovered for a few minutes and then ascended straight up, increasing in speed as it did so, until we could no longer see it.

For years I thought that I had just dreamed this thing up, but then when I was in high school we were all sitting around the dinner table when the subject came up. We all remembered it.

[norml]

18. I saw one from an island on the Texas Gulf Coast.

It was just after sunset on March 19th. 1999.

It came in at sharp angles, was very bright, hovered above me, then took off at a high rate of speed.

That's all.