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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:13 PM
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"Mommy, this movie has beer and cuss words in it!!!!"
My daughter came shooting out of my bedroom where she and her brother were watching Antz. I've seen the movie, didn't see a big deal. She was jumping out her skin over it. She went back in and told her brother that I said the channel had to be changed, he knew better (I'd already given permission for the show).

He got bored with it, and left the room. She came out and said "Mommy, can I change the channel now? The cussing and the beer made me really uncomfortable." She's happily watching something else now.

Where did THIS come from?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:15 PM
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1. A little fundie in the making!
Just kidding!

:D
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:16 PM
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2. Yeah, but in THIS house?
My parents are fundies, but they know that if they push religion on my kids there will be consequences. My son would just explain Evolution to them, but my daughter just might bite.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:46 PM
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19. Sounds like your parents have sold her on prohibition and censorship.
What else?
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Well, it's not just my parents
A kid at school told her that she would go to hell if she didn't pray and go to church.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:11 PM
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23. I assume you nipped that in the bud? Sensitive kids are very susceptible
to that garbage.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:13 PM
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24. I asked her who told her that
Then went to the teacher and told her to make it stop. Of course, they can't control every word that comes out of a kid's mouth, but the kid can be told to knock it off.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:16 PM
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25. Good job on stopping it. But did you clear things up for your daughter to
let her know what _you_ think about Hell and if it exists and who goes there? (I am guessing that you did but am curious as to what you said.)
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:20 PM
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26. Yes I did
I explained to her that some people believe in God and Heaven and Hell, but that other people don't believe those things. I won't tell her church is a bad place, some churches are just fine. She can make her own decision when she's old enough to do so. I had it crammed down my throat as a kid in a household where you were not allowed to question. She's free to make her own choice, when she's ready to make that choice.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:26 PM
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27. Sounds like a good answer. I am not "allowed" to even go that far.
Hubby has tried to forbid me telling the kids my version of our faith, but fat lot of good that's gonna do him. If they have questions, I will answer them. If I see them getting sucked into Fundieville, I will head them off at the pass.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:28 PM
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28. I think that my husband would prefer that I just say
"That's not true", but I just say that different people believe different things.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:48 PM
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29. But did the teacher really stop it?
In the school in western VA a friend attended, it was the teachers who told her she would go to hell for being a *gasp* Unitarian.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:52 PM
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30. As far as I know, yes
Unless my daughter just quit telling me about it.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:55 PM
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31. Just a thought
Can your parents be pushing the religion on them while you're not present? A good friend and her hubby have had to make the decision that their son will not have ANY unsupervised visits with his parents because of his mother's behavior with the older grandchildren: telling them how if they didn't go to church they'd be bound for hell and then describing in detail what a horrible experience it would be, all while their mother was not around. And telling them not to tell their mommy because it was their secret with grandma. (My friend's husband was present when this was happening.) Then there's the issue of granddad being a virulent racist and homophobe, but that's another story.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:59 PM
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32. There have been a couple of times, but they were reported
My son doesn't play that. Of course, any time one of my kids has a problem, my parents inform me that if they were in church, all would be well. Tough shit!
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. It's so good that your kids
Know they can talk to you about these things. I salute you NGU!

:yourock:
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Thanks!
Of course, when they are the ones doing the deviant things, they feel free to sneak!
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:17 PM
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3. I think if you offer her a beer, she will be more comfortable with it
and not be as bothered by it in the future. I'm not sure what to tell you about the cussing, though.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:20 PM
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5. Ha!
No beer here to offer (YUCK!)...sorry!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:17 PM
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4. Probably from some news show she'd seen. You really need to
monitor those darn "fake news shows" better. Thay can be more damaging than the games, movies and commercials!
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:20 PM
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6. Actually, I was thinking...
Public school in Texas....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:33 PM
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14. Oooo. I didn't know you were in Tx? Maybe!
I know here in Ga. my grandchildren are taught that BAD WORDS are stupid, dumb, and idiot! They are always telling me "Grandma, you just said a BAD word!" All I was talking about was some dumb Pub diea, but when I said dumb, I was sooo very bad!

I understand why they're teaching them that. I'm sure it's to teach them not to call each other names like that, and that's a good thing. They are in 1st and 3rd grades, so I'm sure it will advance to "beer & other bad words" in a year or so.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:36 PM
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16. Yeah, it will progress
Of course, as far as my eleven year old son is concerned "thing" is a naughty word. Evertime someone says "thing", he goes "Oooooooh, you said THING!" Ah, the things his friends teach him!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:21 PM
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7. My kids used to laugh at the old black & white movies..
EVERYONE smoked.. In the bathtub, at work, in bed...everywhere..

These days, people go crazy when they even see a "star" sneaking a cigarette, and LTTE abound when a "role model" smokes in a movie..


Times have changed
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:24 PM
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8. During DARE week, they ask the kids if they know anyone who does drugs
Cigarrette and beer count as drugs.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:26 PM
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10. I think soda pop, donuts,cDonalds & pizza should be added
to that list :)

People who OD on those things end up just as "sick" as the other druggies:)
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:28 PM
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12. Before school started last year
All vending machines and deep fryers were removed from the school district. Texas schools had to do it to keep federal funding. They're also spending a lot of time teaching the kids about how to eat healthy.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:25 PM
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9. Ha ha!
Hope she doesn't turn you in to the thought police!

I had my first beer when I was 2 years old. My mom and older brother and I went to live with my grandmother while my dad was stationed in the Philippines.

My mom's much younger sister was still living at home, and her boyfriend/fiance (later husband) came to visit quite often. One night he left a beer on the coffee table while he went out to the kitchen to go get a glass.

When he came back it was gone, and I had the hiccups. They put 2 and 2 together. They told me about this years later. And my dad always let me have sip of his beer when he had some because I liked it.

My parents were always very cool about giving me minute amounts of liquor (a glass of wine with dinner for instance) because they'd lived in Italy, where it was commonplace.

My mom always wanted me to know my limits, so when I got older boys wouldn't be able to "take advantage of me."

Their strategy worked. I've always indulged in moderate amounts, but never abused alcohol.

FSC
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:28 PM
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11. FUDGE STRIPES!!!!!!! I'm getting me some of those after work, I think
:hi:
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Glad..
I could be of assistance!

FSC
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:31 PM
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13. There are no secrets
She tells all.

I remember when she was four, I took her to the mall for new shoes. She had a blast in Payless, then told EVERYONE we passed in the mall "I got new shoes!!" as she proudly carried her bag. You'd think she'd never had new shoes before.

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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:36 PM
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15. Aha,
a girl growing up in the true Fudge Striped Tradition.

I don't know HOW many times I embarrassed my mom in public saying worse than that.

:hi:
FSC
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 02:43 PM
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18. Oh, they've both done way worse than that in public
Small town Piggly Wiggly, seven year old son loudly asking me what I'm going to do with THOSE (a box of tampons), suggesting that I will shove them up my butt.

Son announcing to people just why Mommy doesn't eat that. "It gives her the craps."

I could go on an on and on.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. Oh my GOD.
I am laughing my ass off. :rofl:

What little angels you have!

Now you know why I never had kids! I've heard that whatever it was that you did, your kids will be ten times worse. I couldn't HANDLE that.

You are a braver person than me!
Thanks for the laugh!
FSC
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:07 PM
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22. I can laugh about these things NOW
At the time they weren't so funny. To make things worse, my son is an Aspie. He doesn't get that there are some things you just don't yell in public.
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