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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:31 PM
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I'm a programmer, my boss is a dumbshit, ask me anything.
I'm so effing frustrated I can barely function!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:37 PM
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1. So...he's asking for a robust database, and he'd like it in Mauve,
if you don't mind?

(paraphrasing an old Dilbert strip)

Take a deep breath, count slowly in Hex to a number of your choice, and remind yourself why you wouldn't train your brain for his.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:57 PM
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8. He asks for shit all the time, but...
It's just buzzwords he sees in magazines. He doesn't even know what he's asking for or what it means.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:02 PM
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13. Precisely!
I used to call it MBM -- management by magazine.

Have you thought of bribing the mailroom? :) (I KNOW you've already considered manager-cide.)
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:06 PM
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18. Well get this...
My co-worker approached our bosses boss last week and asked him if he knew what we were spending all our time working on. He said he did, so she asked him what it was. His reply was wrong, of course, so she told him what 4 of his employees had been working on for 2 months. Needless to say he was fucking LIVID! He had a talk with our boss today. Not sure what will become of it, but this asshole is just twisting in the wind. Out of 16 people in our group only ONE guy is on the bosses side. He thinks this guy is gonna take him straight to the top and the opposite is proving to be true.

Manager Suicide is more like it. This dude's killing his own damn self.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:20 PM
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27. Well I hope the noose tightens soon, especially for your vocal
co-worker. The mega-boss will appreciate her actions, but your own boss will want her head on a pike.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:03 PM
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Well, just give him whatever. He won't know the difference.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:06 PM
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20. I wish
He actually does know enough to be dangerous.
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:49 PM
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2. What language?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:58 PM
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9. Unfortunately
ColdFusion, JS, HTML, VB

However, on my own, I've gotten up to speed on C# and .NET. No thanks to my company.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:04 PM
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17. 2 out of 4
Ouch, the middle two arent so bad. Can you put all of the Intellectual property into the middle two layers? just as a challenge :)

sometimes when bosses are painfully dumb it can be fun to just use it to your advantage. :)
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:06 PM
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19. Do you work for a software company?
I have been in IT for (cripes!) 10 years now, support, training, SQA, analysis... and just stated some minor coding this year. I've worked for a couple of software companies... very different atmosphere. I really enjoy the business side of IT and found s/w companies to be limiting in that regard.... unless it's an ERP.

I'm sorry that your boss sucks and/or blows. I am extremely lucky to be where I am, especially given the current market. I love what I do and the people I work with. If you were further north, I'd offer to get your resume to the right people; we're almost always looking for developers.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:08 PM
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21. No
Not a software company. My primary focus is to design, implement, and maintain web-based database applications. So, I'm the application programmer as well as the DBA. It sucks too, because instead of handling the DB and letting someone else work the UI, I have to do both. Not fun.
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:14 PM
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26. I guess that depends... the fun part, I mean.
That's what we do, too - web based apps and data warehousing. But, we're laying the groundwork and making the rules. Having a great team makes a world of difference and the experience gained is well worth the hard work. Once the major project work is done , we'll transition more into standard roles.

Best of luck to you... hope things get better!!
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:55 PM
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3. At least you have a paycheck coming in. I've been out for 7 months
so far this year. 4 months last year and 9 months the year before. I am sooo sick of programming, *, and foreign programmers.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:59 PM
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10. Puts things into perspective
Thanks, you make an excellent point.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:56 PM
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4. Nearly every tech guy I know has a shitty boss....
:wtf:
Duckie
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:57 PM
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5. I am a tech 'guy' and I have a cool boss...
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:00 PM
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11. Sorry. Most tech people I know are dudes.
No offense intended.
Duckie
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:08 PM
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23. Awww... none taken. But, there are those of us 'geeks' who are gals...
:hi:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:01 PM
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12. For the most part it's true
As a tech guy/girl, you can really only have 3 types of bosses.

  1. Another tech guy. This can be good or bad.
  2. A computer illiterate who THINKS he's a genius.
  3. A true manager who allows his employees to get the job done while he/she runs interference for you.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:08 PM
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22. We're expendable to them. Exploitable.
It's always the bottom line that matters in our "society".
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:57 PM
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6. Let me guess
Revising functional specs as you go?

Um, skipping a QA phase in order to speed up the schedule?

Geeks want to know...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:02 PM
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14. Or how about that all time favorite...
... it was going to take 6 months with a team of 4, we'll add 4 people and get it done in 3.

Yes, dumbass, sure that will work. :)
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:03 PM
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15. Yes all of the above, and more.
He likes to come up with projects that need to be done right away that no one has asked us for. It's just shit he thinks EVERYONE will thank him for. Instead, no one wants it, no one ever uses it, and everyone is pissed because we're not working on the shit they actually HAVE asked for.
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Left_Winger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:57 PM
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7. Love the 'Liberal Veteran' sticker
just ordered one.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:03 PM
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16. Well thank you very much!
I actually just got my own in the mail and rode across four states with it on my back window. :D
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Left_Winger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:10 PM
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24. Which branch were you in?
I was a Marine (1975-79).
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 07:13 PM
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25. USAF 1992-2000
A Marine? Were you ever in Okinawa? I was there for 4 years. Great place.
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