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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:21 AM
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Poll question: Do you genuinely hate or genuinely love humanity?
I genuinely love humanity but boy do I get angry at yours and mine at times
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:23 AM
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1. I think it was Linus who said
"I love humanity. It's people I can't stand."
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:23 AM
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2. humanity's cool,
humans mostly suck.

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:24 AM
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3. Yes.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:25 AM
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4. Gotta go with love.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 01:01 AM by progmom
I will always choose love.


on edit: OMG does this sound sappy and stupid. i'm up way past my bed time. good night. :boring:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:26 AM
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5. It's bittersweet.
And that's the beauty of it.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:32 AM
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33. heh. yup.
Well said.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:28 AM
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6. Humanity in general, I love.
Most humans in particular I can do without. THe misanthropy and cynicism of this I think you can put down to frustrated idealism...I keep wanting to believe that people are better, that they'll do the right thing given the chance...and I keep getting disappointed.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:32 AM
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7. You capture my basic sentiment
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:57 AM
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9. I was leaning toward the opposite
I hate the "rat race" aspect of the world (and you can get a negative view of people by reading the news) - but I love the people that I know. (Ok - some of them drive me crazy - but in general...)
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:29 AM
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14. Faith in humanity is essential.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 01:30 AM by cprise

At least the sort that holds up our potential to be good... on balance.

Anyone who cannot manage that on most days is probably sabotaging any political movement they associate with, not to mention our very future.

Put another way: Misanthropy is antisocial political death. We have no choice but to believe in humankind is we want to be successful.


But humanists' faith can be mighty difficult, whether they are religious or secular.


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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:54 AM
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8. humanity would be great
if it weren't for people.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:00 AM
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10. I do love humanity...
and I try like the very devil to treat them the way I'd like to be treated! People do aggravate me sometimes, but I figure this is probably fair; I'm sure I aggravate people from time to time as well...

:shrug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:32 AM
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16. Angel
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:09 AM
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26. My dear Floogeldy!
Sometimes I am, sometimes not...trust me on this!

O8) or :evilgrin: You decide!
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LRSU_Ghost Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:34 AM
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17. Oh please!
You? aggravate? no way...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:07 AM
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25. You have NO idea! my dear Ghost!
Check your PM....
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:03 AM
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11. Hate doesn't seem a strong enough word some days
I think "despise" might be the best word.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:47 AM
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22. Then you're not paying proper attention.
As rotten as things are turning in the US, there is so much more going on out there that is good.

If you want to obsess about the US, then look at it this way: Even with the largest power-grab in our history, the carnage they can get away with is probably smaller than ever.

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:20 AM
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27. Please don't assume that my derision for humanity is US centric
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 02:22 AM by Mojambo
It's not.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:33 AM
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28. Then you must be projecting. n/t
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:36 AM
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29. If you say so.
Remarkable diagnosis.

I just call it the way I see it.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:27 AM
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32. Our point of view can become very myopic.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:06 AM
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12. Depends on the day.
Some days, I love people - others, not so much.
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:40 PM
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42. But admit it.
You looooovvvveee me every day, right?

:evilgrin:

(Be nice, I'm the one with the grey ghost in this friendship!)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:11 AM
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13. I love humanity in general
it is certain individuals that I despise. And it seems like most of the sheep out there flock to these individuals.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:30 AM
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15. Both....or maybe neither.
Let me tell you about my lunch hour today:

I was walking to Millenium Park in Chicago to find a good place to eat lunch and read a book when I passed a homeless dude who was shaking a cup full of change, hoping for a handout. He was wearing a t-shirt that proclaimed "God Bless America". I wondered if he truly felt that he was living in the best country in the world, despite the fact that he is denied health coverage and a decent place to sleep.... I gave him some cash, and didn't particularily care if he spent it on food or on booze or on drugs. Whatever makes his life more bearable, ya know? Fine with me. Still, it reinforced my innate cynacism. Maybe someone gave him that shirt or maybe he was making a patriotic statement or maybe he was being ironic. (or maybe I was just reading too much into the situation...probably the case)

Then I made my way to the Crown Fountain so I could eat my turkey wrap and watch the kids. All kinds of kids, all ages, all races, all laughing and splashing around and having a hell of a good time. Watching them always makes me feel better about everything. Sometimes I take off my shoes and splash around with them. They make me think that may we just might have a chance. Damn kids.

So.... both, I guess.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:36 AM
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18. or humanity is just cute when it's young
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:40 AM
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19. It's not about "cute" ,my friend.
It's about "hope". Those kids that I like to watch give me hope. (Sure, they're cute too)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:40 AM
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20. I must love humanity because it pisses me off something fierce.
:)
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:36 AM
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30. That is precious.
And rather quotable!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:43 AM
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21. It's dangerous to get to know people too much
because the more you do
you start loving,
or at least getting fond of,
or at least feeling compassion for,
or at least pitying,
or at least not hating with such certainty
even the ones you were sure you hated
most of all. Course
I havent met everybody
but I have had that revolution happen
in my own heart
time & time again
in my own particular life & learning...
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:58 AM
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23. Being a human I love humanity
Even though we're all fucked up!
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:01 AM
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24. The late comic/social commentator Bill Hicks once said
That we're "a virus with shoes". On most days, I agree.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:44 AM
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31. Too true. Carlin most closely represents my feelings for humanity
I enjoy watching (and sometimes being a part) of this freakshow, but as a species we're just going nowhere.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:42 AM
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34. Depends on my mood...
While I am generally optimistic, I then notice 30-year olds with children laughing with them as they wreak havoc, or walking in acrowd as the idiot children keep dropping things and slowing everyone else up...

I could go on for ages. I'll miss humanity as being a civilized species.
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:45 AM
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35. I think its love
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 07:45 AM by catbert836
You gotta love humanity, despite all its flaws . It's what we're stuck with.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:47 AM
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36. Other - i love the concept, hate the practice
humans havent been showing me much in the last 150 years. Some bright spots, but mostly improved methods of raping, pillaging and looting.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:03 AM
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37. I have a love/hate relationship with humanity
some days I find my faith in humanity restored, other days I feel nothing but contempt for the majority of people on earth
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:30 AM
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38. i have been thinking about this all morning...
i believe i once had a deep faith in the basic goodness of humanity... age and experience has proved that faith invalid on many counts...

it's not about love or hate anymore, it's about survival... and being able to deal with many facets of the human beast
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:36 PM
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39. well...
do ya?
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:37 PM
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40. gratuitous kick?
;)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:40 PM
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41. depends on the day
I tend to lean towards love, if only because of our enormous potential, creatively and compassionately.

Then again, it is betraying that potential that leads me to be frustrated with the species. If I succumb to hating, that will ultimately make part of what I (paradoxically) hate about humanity.

So it's very conditional, temperamental, fickle love.
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