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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:17 AM
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Poll question: Alternative pronunciations (besides nucular) that drive you crazy
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:12 AM by undisclosedlocation
Apparently this is Pet Peeve Night in Johnnyland.:) I appreciate that there are regional accents. I appreciate that some of these are the actual proper British pronunciations (or anyway popular ones) and that there's a reason that the language we speak is called English. Still, a) they annoy me anyway, not least because b) the people pronouncing the words this way in my hearing by and large aren't British.

These are largely from TV commercials; it's ever a thing of disbelief to me that people who ought to realize that we're already inclined ads per se can't figure out that it might be a good idea to hire people with unintrusive accents and diction.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:20 AM
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1. Detroy-it. WimbleTon.
It's "Detroyt", and "WimbleDon".

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:21 AM
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2. Mis-Cheeve-Eee-Us , , , instead of Mischievous
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:23 AM
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3. Oh Jesus. The first leading candidate for getting on the poll.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:24 AM by undisclosedlocation
This is why I generally don't put Other on until the editing time has almost run out; I'll make changes up to the bitter end most times.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:25 AM
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4. You've got to have "Idear" (idea) on there
That just drives me nuts and a guy I've been friends with since elementary school says it all the time.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:29 AM
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8. It could happen; check in again around 4. At the rate I'm getting votes,
I'll probably be changing out all 9. (At least I didn't say, "I have no idear what you're talking about.")
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:29 AM
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9. cough, cough, howard dean, cough
n/t
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:24 AM
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31. Yeah, except in Dean's case it's not a mispronunciation.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 05:25 AM by Spider Jerusalem
It's a feature of his accent; Kerry says it, too (though not all the time), and Ted Kennedy, and anyone else with a New England accent.

The accent is "non-rhotic", which means that "R" sounds occuring in the middle or end of words are (usually) not pronounced unless followed by a vowel (think of a stereotypical Boston accent; "pahk the cah" for "park the car", etc). However, an "R" sound is sometimes inserted at the end of a word ending in a vowel sound if the next word also begins with a vowel, so someone with a non-rhotic accent will say "I have no IDEA what you're talking about", and then "That IDEAR is insane"; it's consistent, if you listen for it. That's called an "intrusive 'R'" or "linking 'R'". You'll hear the same thing if you watch BBC America...British "Received Pronunciation" (aka "the Queen's English") is a non-rhotic dialect.

(sorry...I'm a linguistics geek)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 06:04 AM
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32. Augh! Run for your life everyone!
It's a linguistics geek!

:yoiks:
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:21 PM
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48. It is definitely a regional bias
but you will find that if your parents weren't from the Boston area, you are not as likely to pick it up along the way. In my own case, my parents were both Canadian, and I never really got the Boston Brahmin accent. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule: nay-ba-hood, instead of neighbor-hood, and in words with two strong "t's," the second "t" is more of a "d" sound. Potato, is one of the strongest ones. Another regional difference is in spelling--many European English forms of words come up more as normally used--words like "centre" instead of "center," "theatre" instead of "theater," and other similar words. I spelled "realize" as "realise" for many years, for example.

When I came back to Mass. after 15 years in SoCal, it was amazing to hear people talking, because out there, the overall affect of the integration of many different groups of regional accents seemed to render the differences null and void.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:22 PM
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67. Like Stompin Tom!
Talking about "padadoes." :D

FSC
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:28 AM
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5. Other!
Per Dictionery.com

pre·rog·a·tive (pr-rg-tv) n.

1. An exclusive right or privilege held by a person or group, especially a hereditary or official right. See Synonyms at right.
2. The exclusive right and power to command, decide, rule, or judge: the principal's prerogative to suspend a student.
3. A special quality that confers superiority.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:50 AM
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13. Dunno. Pronunciation Man at Bartleby seems to make the first syllable
"pruh," even though the written version seems to be giving more "prih." I assume you're objecting to people dropping the first R; the way Pronunciation Man did it though, I could barely tell the difference and had to play it a dozen times. Might be a function of my tin ear, though.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:28 AM
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6. Warsh instead of wash
I hear that all the time. I think it's sort of regional, but it sounds horrible.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:54 AM
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25. I put it on. If I'd been thinking, I'd have added "or Warshington" but I
wasn't and now time's run out. Guess folks will figure it out for themselves.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:37 PM
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51. Warsh drives me nuts. Very common in small town Midwest.
My Grandma said "warsh" and it drove me bonkers!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:53 PM
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77. Small town Midwest - that's where I'm from
My grandma says it too. I just try very hard not to notice :P
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:52 PM
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121. Kansas or Missouri?
I suspect it's one or the other!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:58 PM
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122. Downstate Illinois actually
I notice "warsh" a lot in the speech of older folks, people from the WWII-Depression generation (like my grandparents). It's basically become extinct with younger generations, though - never heard anyone under 60 say it.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:08 PM
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126. Ah-ha. Next door to MO. Makes sense.
But, you are correct. You don't see it much in the younger generations. Thank goodness for that!
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:28 AM
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7. forMIDable/FORmidable
I've always said forMIDable. :blush: Just started realizing that some people say FORmidable, which I thought was a mistake on their part because I'm not used to hearing it.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:30 AM
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10. See my comment about UK pronunciations.
You're ready for Oxbridge!
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:44 AM
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12. It's on the rise in the US:
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:44 AM by darkblue
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=formidable

Usage Note: Traditionally formidable has been pronounced with stress on the first syllable, but recently the pronunciation with stress on the second syllable, which is a common variant in British English, appears to be on the rise in American English. The traditional pronunciation is apparently still preferred by a large majority of educated speakers, however. A recent survey shows that 80 percent of the Usage Panel use the pronunciation (fôrm-d-bl), while 14 percent use (fôr-md-bl). A few Panelists approved both pronunciations.


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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:54 AM
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15. We should just all go French and stress the third syllable
:P
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:33 AM
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11. Any time
someone is reading something aloud and has no clue how to pronounce half the words they're reading, like they've never heard the words before.

Man, sunday morning's sacred scripture time... I have to get up and read it whenever I'm there because A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE CONGREGATION reads like third graders. The pastor's wife actually thanked me for being a good reader... she said that as the pastor's wife she had had to sit through YEARS of awful reading.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:53 AM
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14. Poke Chop
You know, the other white meat....
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:57 AM
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16. Forte and Forte (actually spelled Fort)
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:58 AM by Solly Mack
One's Italian(musical - spelled Forte - pronounced ForTAY) One's French.(meaning strong point - properly spelled Fort/pronounced For)

People almost always use the Italian pronunciation when they mean the French meaning.


It causes me to snarl when I hear people say "Writing is her fortay"
FUCK NO!!!!!!...Writing is NOT her ForTAY...it's her For(T)...her FOR(T) dammit! Her fucking FOR(T)! but it's not now nor has it ever been her forTAY!!!!!

I don't give a rats ass what has become acceptable as common usage...it's still her god damn FOR(T)!!!!!!!!!!!

(T) cause the T is silent...when speaking in French, that is

but it's such a little thing in a world of bigger problems that I don't work myself up over it.

Course, I'd be happy if people said ForT instead of ForTay when speaking of another's strong point...they don't hafta say For like the French do.

and ya don't gotta believe me...look the words up

http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19971114

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/List-of-words-commonly-mispronounced

forte - (1)
The pronunciation of forte when it means one's strength or strong point, is disputed. M-W has this comment about usage: "In forte we have a word derived from French that in its 'strong point' sense has no entirely satisfactory pronunciation. Usage writers have denigrated (2) and (3) because they reflect the influence of the Italian-derived forte. Their recommended pronunciation (1), however, does not exactly reflect French either: the French would write the word le fort and would rhyme it with English for. So you can take your choice, knowing that someone somewhere will dislike whichever variant you choose. All are standard, however."

How's that for pretension? LMAO

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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:01 AM
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17. Just ask, "Well then what's her fortissimo?"
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:01 AM by undisclosedlocation
:P
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:05 AM
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20. She types loudly? It's tempo is almost melodic
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:16 AM by Solly Mack
with the click click clickity-clack of the keys pounding out a symphony of nothingness?

:)

hehehehehehe
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:30 AM
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108. "It's" tempo?
Oh, wait, wrong thread. Never mind. As you were....
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AVulgarianHue Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:12 PM
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58. That's my peeve!
The few times I've mentioned the pronunciation, the response is fear of ridicule, if not saying "for-tay.

Grrrr

Oh, and one of these answers was from a musician.
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Metatron Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:15 PM
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72. I agree completely.
My high school Latin teacher, Mrs. Green, gave a five minute lecture on the correct pronunciation of forte. Apparently, it was one of her pet peeves. I do enjoy the confused stares I receive when I pronounce it correctly.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:23 AM
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87. I have to strongly disagree
I have only encountered the French faction in this debate on DU. There are approximately zero people that use the French pronunciation. Additionally, the word is spelled forte, which is the Italian derivation. If the word was meant to be pronounced as it is in French, it would be spelled as fort.

Period.

End of discussion.

There is no French option here.

Forte has two syllables.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:06 AM
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99. The poster is correct regarding derivation. However, the nerd gods (ie
American Heritage Dictionary usage panel) go with you. See usage note here: http://www.bartleby.com/61/99/F0269900.html

PS: When you put your usage maven hat on, try not to split infinitives. It undercuts your credibility.:)
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:29 AM
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107. I agree about For-TAY
However, the French "forte" (fem) is pronounced "fort", i.e., the "t" is sounded because of the "e". The French "fort" (masc) is pronounced "forr", though, and perhaps logically we should refer to Her as having a forte and Him as having a fort. But the word (for this sense) has come into English with the "e", whether masculine or feminine.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:01 AM
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18. Mispronunciations...
... misusages, imaginary words. Of the latter, irregardless. Yup, lots of etymological logic in that one.

Consummate, with the accent on the first syllable, instead of the second.

Orientate, instead of orient. (Very common in the military.)

Silicone, for silicon

Liberry, for library.

aks, for ask.

Calvary, for cavalry.

Prostrate, for prostate.






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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:11 AM
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21. Orientate is proper British English
but of course, we aren't in Britain.

Calvary for cavalry has come up a couple of times lately and drives me up a tree, too. I'll probably put it on if I can figure something to take off.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:32 AM
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23. Not exactly...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:36 AM by punpirate
... and even good British linguists will say so. It's a back-formation from orientation. It should follow the same grammatical rules as, say, the word, interpret. It's misused in the same manner as is interpretate.

That it's colloquially common in the UK is merely evidence of the fact that the British have common mispronunciations, as well. :)

Cheers.


edit for clarity.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:36 AM
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137. Boom! Nailed 'em Punpirate! Show 'em who's talkin the good English NOW!
Irregardless of where the language originitated from.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 02:37 AM
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139. The adulteration of language...
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 02:38 AM by punpirate
... is prompted by some laziness (there are consonant-vowel combinations which are simply difficult to say cleanly and clearly); however, as George W. Bush amply illustrates, politicians are the principal offenders. Every politician wants his or her words to seem lofty and erudite and so embellishes them creatively, typically using far more syllables than necessary. They seem to say things of great gravity, but, with some analysis, it's all quite meaningless (in Bush's case, it's gibberish, such as misunderestimated). Political speech is the principal route of such misconstructions into colloquial use.

Those are not my ideas. George Orwell came up with them all many decades ago in his highly-recommended essay, "Politics and the English Language."

My point in saying this is that, as I recall, the British have their share of politicians, too. :)

Cheers.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:39 AM
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110. Yes, "consummate" should be pronounced "con-SUM-mate"
And "acumen" is supposed to be "a-CU-men".

On the other hand, where and when the hell did "influence" come to be pronounced "in-FLU-ence"?
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:23 AM
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112. Calvary - cavalry
That really drives me nuts.

And I spent 2 years in the First Cavalry Division - we had Batallion and Brigade Commanders who could not pronounce it correcty.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:02 AM
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19. "foe"-ward for "forward" -
It seems to be Jersey/Long Island thing. It annoys me, but I also find it interesting, because I would have GUESSED that pronouncing it "foe-ward" would be kinda more "southern" or "country", but it is DEFINITELY a characteristic of Jersey/Long Island talk. It's especially annoying as the word is often used these days in a particular corporate-speak way in the phrase "going forward."
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:15 AM
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22. My problem with Long Islanders is Lon Guyland, or anything eliding
the "ng" sound at the end of one word to the beginning of another. I went to Penn. Twenty-odd years ago, but my ears are just beginning to recover.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:38 PM
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52. My former boss says "foe-ward"
I believe he is from Queens, but I'm not certain.

He also says "idear" instead of idea; "Sheeler" instead of Sheila.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:33 AM
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24. rah-porder instead of reporter (woodward)
imporDant instead of imporTant
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:38 AM
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26. Simular.
One of my high school teachers. Drove me NUTS.
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:43 AM
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27. My bank's ATM always tells me to wait while my
transaction is PRO-cessing in this annoying high british accent


It's like bamboo until the fingernails:rant:
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smtpgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 06:10 PM
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65. ATM's
Funny, you must bank at BB&T. I find that nerve-racking too :)
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Cathyclysmic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #65
70. no...but the ATM's are made by Diebold
of course:eyes:
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #27
98. Don't move to Canada then
PRO-cess and PRO-gress are the norm here.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:00 AM
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28. el-emen-tary
~ sheesh .... send em back to school .... :wtf: elementary school
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:12 AM
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29. "Sherbert" instead of "sherbet".
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:27 AM
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43. YES!
That one drives me nuts.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:13 AM
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30. "Mute" point, instead of "moot" point.
Makes me nuts!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:05 AM
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40. Nominated!
Drives me nuts that one.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:39 PM
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53. aaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuugh
i had a boss who said this. auuuuuuuuuuuugh.
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Left_Winger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 06:09 AM
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33. Irregardless in lieu of regardless
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 06:13 AM by Left_Winger
or... libary instead of library
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:21 PM
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74. in lieu of, instead of au lieu de
:silly:
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:22 PM
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75. Virginians are incapable of pronouncing CRAYON. Here, it's "crown"
:argh:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 06:26 AM
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34. William Shatner says lava
and not LAH-VA, the way it should be said, but La-VA, with a short "a". It drives me crazy.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 06:56 AM
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35. Ask and Ambulance
It's not 'axe' someone something, it's 'ask' someone something. It is not pronounced with an x in it.
It's ambulance, not am-buh-lance.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:17 AM
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36. "It's so fun"!

An entire generation is growing up thinking this is the correct way to say it. Also, "joolery" instead of jewelry, and "fith" instead of fifth.


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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:20 PM
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60. ??? Bad grammar, but what's the pronunciation problem? n/t
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:38 AM
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95. You're right; I just noticed that!
It's not a pronunciation problem. Believe it or not, I used to be an English teacher!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:26 AM
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37. When someone writes "here here" I want to smack them
Its' "hear hear" you fucking idiot.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:28 AM
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38. "Valentime" instead of "Valentine." "Flustrate" for "frustrate." All
heard in the South regularly. Arrrrgh.

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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:59 AM
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39. tore-lit for toilet.
Very Archie Bunkeresque. Believe it or not, I know a few people that pronounce it this way.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:19 AM
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41. Archie said "ter-lit" as I recall.
"oooh Awwchie!"
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:21 AM
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42. "Orientated" for "oriented" - my personal #1 hate!
n/t
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I Know How To Do it Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:37 AM
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44. "Libary", instead of Library.
I used to work in the Film Library at Yale New Haven Hospital and it drove me crazy when people would answer the phone, "Film Libary."
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:42 AM
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97. Wheel Barrel and Chimbley
I know ADULTS who still say "Valentime" as well.
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:58 AM
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45. Can I ax you something?
I want to rip off my ears.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:09 PM
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46. A few that I hate
axed instead of asked

acrosst instead of across

heigth instead of height (the former is pronounced (incorrectly, of course, as "hithe")

for the center divider in a road, medium instead of median
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:17 PM
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47. Excape
Hear it all the time.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:43 PM
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49. CIG-ar, IN-surance, EK-cetera.


Feb-U-ary ..... don't get me started.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:29 PM
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50. "On accident" instead of "by accident"
I know that's usage or grammar vs. pronunciation, but ...

Also, joolery, heighth, nucular, orientated, pacifically instead of specifically (wtf?)!

Flustrated...ugh

There are so many. I can tolerate the regional ones, in fact, I hate the idea that we are losing our regional accents, but the ignorant ones drive me right up the wall.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:40 PM
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54. "for all intensive purposes"
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:47 PM
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55. That one bugs me too.
That and "medium" for "median". "I had to pull over to the medium."
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:41 PM
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56. "Excetera" instead of the actual et cetera,
LIE-berry instead of library, Febyooary instead of February, EX-presso instead of espresso, and of course, Goofy-ass frat-boys from Maine who put on a Texas accent just to sound more personable.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:42 PM
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57. Another vote for "orientate" nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:16 PM
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59. Can I axe a you to carry me to the libarry n/t
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:07 AM
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105. Or, "hey, I axt you a question!"
Picksburgh (instead of Pittsburgh)

Eye-talian
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:23 PM
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61. "ath-lete" has two syllables, not three.
:headbang:
rocknation
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:37 AM
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138. Down here the debate is whether "smile" is two or three syllables
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:56 PM
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62. Xscape
It's EScape, you idiotic fucksticks!
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:21 PM
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63. "Expresso"
More from my world o' restaurant fun:

frap-PAY

MER-lut

FA-jit-uh and fah-JYE-tuh (I'm not kidding)

bru-SHET-uh (okay, so that's become acceptable; I still don't have to like it.)

(filet) MING-yun

Brak-ee-O-lee (back me up, my Italian brothers and sisters)

NACK-in

par-MEES-ee-un


Unusual and imported varietals can be especially hilarious.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:13 AM
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117. agreed. Also, ofTen, and sherbert. (nt)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 05:31 PM
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64. Kal - EE - fo - nee - AH
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 06:13 PM
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66. BUSH for PRESIDENT
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:25 PM
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68. "congradulations" "acorse the screet" n/t
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:27 PM
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69. "Flustrated"
A combo of Flustered and Frustrated.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:07 PM
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71. relator instead of realtor. axe instead of ask
the phrase "one of the only....."...folks, if it is an only , then it is
ONE. If there is a remote possibility of there being a second or third then the phrase should be "one of the few...."

Crystual for Crystal

EYE talian

I noted another poster added the phrase "on accident" which made me smile. ...when my daughter was very small, if she made a mistake it was "on accident"..her words not ours. It just seemed to her the natural way for that to be expressed; never mind that I would say "You mean by accident?" No, on accident.
(I got her logic, kid logic of course: on purpose means I meant to do it; on accident means I didn't mean to do it)
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:19 PM
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73. cent, instead of its plural form.
worse than nails on a chalkboard.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:27 PM
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76. "Wole-ly" for "Wholly," :) and "Heighth" for "Height." n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:56 PM
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78. "tenants" for "tenets"; "imminent domain" for "eminent domain" nt
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:43 AM
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79. "At First Blush" instead of "At First Glance" . . . especially
ESPECIALLY when it comes from a radio or TV announcer.

makes me wanna barf, somehow.

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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:20 AM
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86. Per the dictionary, it's correct and that's exactly what it means
though I'll agree that it sounds very odd, and doesn't make a lot of sense on its face (pun unintentional): http://www.bartleby.com/61/20/B0352000.html
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:52 AM
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80. relator (ACCENT ON RE) instead of realtor
and a super- successful realtor would mispronounce it this way
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:56 AM
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81. When I lived in Texas (Sorry, Texans),
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 12:57 AM by evlbstrd
it was ideal. "I have an ideal, guys." They always meant "idea."
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:08 AM
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115. Why, you evlbstrd
I'm "fixin'" to whoop ya!

Seriously, though, I've not heard "ideal" in lieu of "idea".

What part of Texas?

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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:01 AM
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133. It was in Houston.
I hated Houston.
Damn, did I live up to my name again?
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:57 PM
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140. Sorry you were unhappy here
it's my hometown.

But too damn hot and humid.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:56 AM
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82. sorry, but "suit" is proper usage
It may not be the word you want them to use, but a bedroom suit is accurate, and in fact, the word "suite" in that case may be derived from a mispronunciation of "suit."

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

quote:

Suit \Suit\, n. suivre to follow, OF. sivre; perhaps influenced by L. secta.
See Sue to follow, and cf. Sect, Suite.]

7. A number of things used together, and generally necessary
to be united in order to answer their purpose; a number of
things ordinarily classed or used together; a set; as, a
suit of curtains; a suit of armor; a suit of clothes.
``Two rogues in buckram suits.'' --Shak.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:18 AM
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85. Would be, were it spelled "suit" (but I admit that American Heritage has
both pronunciations for that meaning, though the French one is preferred.) http://www.bartleby.com/61/17/S0871700.html
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:29 AM
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89. That would make it a spelling, not a pronunciation, error.
:-) Don't you love nitpicking over a nitpicking issue!
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:32 AM
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92. That's knitpiquing. (Kidding!)
:D Agreed!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:26 AM
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83. Happy Burfday
A Smurf might give burf, but not my mother.
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:02 AM
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84. Does everyone know that the "T" in "often" is silent?
It's mispronounced so much that it's now acceptable!
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:24 AM
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88. Does anybody?
The usage note here is interesting: http://www.bartleby.com/61/39/O0043900.html
(By the way, I'm with you.)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:32 AM
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90. Well, it's often silent, but not always.
And the t helps avoid confusion with the word "offin'," as in "I'm offin' this crazy punk!"
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:52 AM
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118. WS Gilbert did
He played on the pun between "often" and "orphan" in The Pirates of Penzance.
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unsavedtrash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:34 AM
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91. I - rack for Iraq and axe instead of ask.
makes my ass sick :grr:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:58 AM
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93. "An'artika." You mean, Antarctica??????? GRRRR! n/t
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:49 AM
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94. Either pronunciation is acceptable. (Well, not the dropping the 't' part)
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 04:50 AM by undisclosedlocation
The etymology is crazy mad insane: http://www.bartleby.com/61/11/A0411100.html
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:41 AM
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96. Aks
But I find myself using it just to annoy others. TV's "Raymond Barone" used to say "aks"... but I wonder if the actor, Ray Romano, actually said it in real life.


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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:08 AM
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100. To be positive, I'll give one I like. My wife says "mi'ens" for "mittens"
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:54 AM
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111. Ohhhh yeah
That sort of halfway reminds me of Bill Maher (for one) who can't say "Bill Clinton", but comes out with something that rhymes with "mitten", but with a glottal stop in the middle like your wife's pronunciation.

And speaking of pronunciation, if I hear "proNOUNciation" one more time....
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:19 AM
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101. Orient-tate
Instead of "orient"

Let me orient-tate you to this facility.

Instead of "let me orient you to the map"
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:33 AM
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102. Tortillia
pronounced tor-till-ya

gawd.

unfortunately, i've dated too many people who can't even pronounce tortilla correctly. ugh..
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:36 AM
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103. Duck Tape -- You don't tape ducks; you tape DUCTS...
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:11 AM
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116. You must not have met the redneck Repugs in my area
because they might tape a duck.

You know God gave them dominion - and they like it.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:04 AM
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104. Idear, warsh, winder (for window)
Chicargo (I've heard this a lot), rurnt (for ruin), Massa-tu-setts (for Massachusetts), Illi-noise (for Illinois) and so many more!
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:13 AM
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106. Feb-you-ary
I wonder if the yobs who pronounce February this way go down to the local sports bar to quaff some bews while cheering for the Boston Bewins and indulging in bewtish behaviour. It's not as if "bru" is so hard to say, is it? Ugh! It makes me long for March, so I don't have to hear it so much.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:35 AM
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109. Calling a certain brand of German car a "Porsh."
The E is NOT silent!!!!

Redstone
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:05 AM
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113. DELATED
Related to a fool who says delated when she means ELATED.

Makes me feel so deflated.

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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:06 AM
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114. Forgot VEE-HICK-le. The late Paul Winfield, noooooooooooo! nt
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:55 AM
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119. My wife says exspecially
I don't know if she does it on purpose.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:09 PM
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120. "Supposably."
However, I feel fine saying "crick" for "creek," even though my kids laugh at me. I correct it when I'm outside of South Buffalo.

I also have a hard time with certain names of Italian foods, having grown up with my grandmother and large Italian family saying them according to the dialect of Grandma's family. MANN-IH-KOTT-EEE just kills me, but, on the other hand, Grandma's version wouldn't be recognized by many Italians.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:32 PM
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128. I hate Supposably.
There's no excuse for it. :)

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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:02 PM
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123. any southern word pronunciation
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:04 PM
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124. NiJerr (Niger), cash (cache)
:grr:
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:11 PM
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129. Not following; cash is the only accepted pronunciation for "cache" nt
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:05 PM
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125. Irregardless.
:mad:

It is "regardless"

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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:16 PM
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127. 'democrat party' instead of 'democratic party"
and it's becoming more and more mainstream-i heard mehlman doing it the other day on meet the press.

i don't understand the point of this one. is it supposed to prove something. maybe it's supposed to be clever, but it just sounds uneducated to me.

the gop wants to 'git the DEMOCRAT PARTY out of WARSHington DC."
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:18 PM
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130. It's been the plan from Day 1. "Democratic" is seen by the public as a
good thing, so naturally, they have to take it away from us. Of course, "Democrat Party" sounds clumsy, childish and idiotic; hopefully, most people will see them for the playground bullies they are.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:45 PM
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131. "Consummate," the adjective
Almost everyone says "CON-suh-mitt" when it's supposed to be "con-SUM-mit (though the former, being so much in the vernakyoolerr, has been added to dictionaries as the second tier pronunciation)."

Another one is "cli-TOR-is." Egads, sounds like some kind of antique furniture. "Oh, Winifred? Do mind the cli-TOR-is when you are dusting; it almost fell last time."

Finally, Vy-EE-nuh sausages. please...
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:31 PM
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132. At least the 2d one lets you rhyme it with Lavoris in limericks...
:hide:
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:06 AM
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134. Miss--ooooo---ruh
Man, that really gets under my fucking skin.

Missouri, miss-zur-ee, you flippin' morans.

:dunce:


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:10 AM
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135. Ambience (with a short a and a short e)
instead of ahmbiahnce.
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 01:32 AM
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136. My pet peeves
It's CA-ramel (short A), not CAR-a-mel
It's, Ro-BAHT, not ro-BUHT
It's Don-key, not dunk-ey

When I watched CBC news in Canada a few weeks ago, they all said tsun-A-mi (short A again), not tsun-AH-mi.

And my grandmother says "url", "turlet", and "silvenir" for oil, toilet, and souvenir.
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