Are we able to discuss Six Feet Under yet? I can't wait!!! (spoilers)

[LynneSin]

I think Claire is going to end up like her mother if she sticks with the lawyer and it's going to be her mother that saves her from being like that. The lawyer will promise Claire that she can stay at home and do art while he makes the money, but Claire's mom will point out the obvious - the kids will happen and she'll end up with a life unfullfiled if she goes down that path.

Look for a big fight between Brenda & Maya's maternal grandparents. They're going to want to want to raise Maya themselves and Brenda is going to want to keep her. Especially since I think Brenda will finally have the tests that Nate wanted her to have on their unborn child and she's going to have some difficult decisions to make about dealing with a potentially severely deformed child.

I still think Keith's fling with that pop star is going to come back and haunt him - I don't think protection was used and I still say there's a kid involved.

Mrs. Fisher is going to realize that without men in her life she can now fulfill the life she had to give up when she first married. I see a brand new Mom.

Anyone else want to discuss Six Feet Under?

[demnan]

1. Yes

I'm going to miss Nate. I thought he was the good looking one. Selfish, confused, but goodlooking. He really didn't treat Brenda very well in the end, did he? But maybe she had it coming.

[SharonRB]

2. Hi, Lynne

Since Brenda is really the only mother Maya knows, I think she should stay with her, but I forgot all about her maternal grandparents. They definitely will put up a big fight. I think Brenda will win out, though.

Ruth will definitely stay on her own -- I thought that cougar was going to get her last night!

As for Claire and Tim -- I thought she'd walk out of dinner after that political discussion, but he was so sweet staying with her at the hospital, they just might be able to work things out in spite of their political differences (a la Carville and Matalin). I love that they bring these political statements in every week.

I'm not so sure about that pop start thing -- I think we would have heard somethinga about it by now if it was going to happen. There are only 3 episodes left.

On another subject, I went out to your link for the DU meetup in DC. I'm planning to come to DC, but it looks like the busses will be driving through the night Friday and leaving shortly after the rally on Saturday. I'd love to be able to stay over at least one night, but it depends if I can find other transportation other than flying. I looked at the Capitol Hill Suites site and the rooms are not very inexpensive -- at least $159 a night. It would be great to find a couple of people to split the room with. I'm talking to some other people here in the Detroit area to see what our options are. Maybe I can get a couple people to share driving or something.

[LynneSin]

4. Hope to see you in DC

I posted another link the the DC forums with more inexpensive hotels in the city including some hostels. Hopefully you'll be able to join us for part of the weekend even if it's just to meetup for the protest

[SharonRB]

8. Where is that link?

Hope to meet a lot of DUers in DC!

[LeftyDarthBrodie]

12. My predictions

1. Brenda will confront Maggie about her relationship with Nate. I don't know where or how that will go.

2. Ruth will go bananas, as expected. Once the immediate shock of Nate's death wears off though, if we see this, she might be a different person.

3. Claire's poor history with men and this guys caring for her will allow her to look past their differing attitudes and that may actually help her creatively to be with someone who challenges her. She may also find inspiration in the darkness of Nate's death.

4 (I'm really not sure about this). Lisa's sister challenges Brenda for custody of Maya. Legally speaking, if anyone knows or thinks that would effect the outcome, who would get Maya with both biological parents dead and the step mom never legally adopting?

[LynneSin]

15. I think Claire & Mom have a major blowout

You see what a free spirit Ruth's sister is and you just know that Ruth was probably the same way until she met and married Nate Fisher some 40 years ago. That's why Ruth withheld Claire's inheritance because she wants Claire to go back to school and get her degree so she can be a sucessful artist.

Last night showed Ruth's liberation when she imagined taking a shotgun to all them men who have been in her life. This woman is going to see through that repuke asshole her daughter is dating and is going to hopefully get Claire to see the light so Claire does not end up another Ruth.

I mean, look at how pathetic Claire's life has become. She's practically given up art to work a cheesyass job as a temp (where according to others who work there, they'll probably hire Claire). She's dating a man who personally, I don't see as being much different as what her father was like - a pompous asshole. But Claire will be hurting from her brother's death and she'll overlook the fact that this lawyer is just a repuke scumbag who would love nothing more than to domesticate Claire.

Ruth won't go nuts - she'll help Claire see the light and set her free so she doesn't become a 'Ruth Jr'. Claire will ultimately realize that school was her best option and go back to finish off her degree.

[LeftyDarthBrodie]

47. I think if Ruth wanted Claire to be a free spirit

like Sarah she would have given her the money. I think Ruth sees the positive and the negative aspects of the different paths taken by Sarah and herself. I personally don't think art school will make someone an artist and feel that Claire knows that. She knows she needs to find the inspiration in herself.

The job isn't helping any as it is totally devoid of creativity. The relationship with Ted could help. Yes he is a Republican, I also could not imagine myself in a relationship with a Republican but that clashing, while minor especially compared to some of her previous problems with men, might inspire her to find ways to better herself and convince him otherwise. He genuinely seems like a decent person despite his political affiliations. I don't know if I would spend the night of my first date with a girl in the hospital when a family member of hers is sick unless I found something very special in her.

Claire is undoubtedly in a rut and I hope we see her come out of it before the show is over. I don't think we know enough about Ted to assume he wants to domesticate Claire. He seemed to find it interesting that she was an artist and clearly finds the suit and tie world fairly off putting. I believe he said he became a lawuer to please his father. Maybe he has the yearning to branch off on his own and needs someone like Claire to push him that direction. Maybe they will help eachother, Claire artistically and Ted with a career he might not want and beliefs that might not be his.

I hope for the best for all of these characters but the track record of SFU shows that we can expect further tragedy in the next three episodes to happen to the Fisher family and those linked to them in someway.

[caty]

3. Isn't this the final

season?: (spoiler)http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0508010149aug01,1,3756188.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

[LynneSin]

5. Yep

I'm sad because I love this show, but I think they're going to go out with a bang. Even though Nate is no longer with us in this world you know, just like his father, that he'll be around for the remaining seasons including giving a ton of grief to Brenda.

[driver8]

9. Isn't this the last season??? How many more episodes?

I could not believe they killed off Nate. I told my wife, "This is a dream, watch..." and then the graphic came up with Nate's name. I was stunned.

But then I watched "Entourage" and laughed my ass off, so all was right with the world again.

[LynneSin]

10. This week's Entourage was ok...

...not enough Jeremy Pivan

[LeftyDarthBrodie]

11. This is the last season

three episodes left.

[ronnykmarshall]

6. I wasn't suprised about Nate

but he really pissed me off right before he kicked the bucket.

I feel bad for Brenda. She should have stuck with that hottie that lived in her apt complex and not Nate. Nate can be such a pain in the ass.

[caty]

7. I never really liked Nate.

He seemed so self centered.

[devilgrrl]

40. I think Brenda's an asshole too...

in fact I hope she gets killed in the final episode by the Justin Theroux character

[driver8]

41. I liked Brenda at first, but can't stand her now.

I don't know why -- I cannot pick a specific incident. She just bugs me.

[Taverner]

13. Still stunned they killed Nate

I saw it coming, and I had a feeling about it, but I'm still stunned.

Anyone else feel this way?

Of course he had a second (and possibly a third) chance to get it right, and he fucked up both...

But still?

[AlCzervik]

24. yes i was stunned, i thought maybe it was coming when it

looked liked he was having a dream about David and his father but when David woke up and it turned out it was his dream i was shocked.

[kwassa]

14. Brenda and Nate seemed like the world's most miserable couple

and I almost stopped watching the show altogether, because it seems like all the characters spin around in their own problems over and over and never make any progress, except very temporary in nature.

I really dislike Brenda, but also saw Nate as a flake and a hypocrite. David is the most sympathetic character, the most sensible of the group, but he has his issues, too.

Ruth will take up with another wierd man. It is just an endless cycle and re-cycle. Rico and Vanessa were driving me insane; Rico just needed to get on with life.

[LynneSin]

16. I thought last night was a major breakthrough for Vanessa & Rico

I finally understood why she was still cold with Rico even after she allowed him to move back in and even had sex with him. I think that Nate's death will finally bring these 2 back together and maybe give them a happily ever after

[Taverner]

17. And Claire dating a Freeper????

WTF????

[jbane]

36. Compared to Russell and Billy...

That guy is Mr.Wonderful. I think he's going to suprise you.

[Taverner]

44. BUT HE'S A REPUKE

And Repuke = narcissist in my book

[kwassa]

18. I think it is wierd that she could have sex with him if she still felt so

much anger and anxiety about him. That didn't ring true, to me.

[Taverner]

19. It makes sense if shes sick of men...

[ronnykmarshall]

20. Remember that hottie she dated the first season?

DA-YUM!!!

[kwassa]

21. Huh? how does it make sense if she is sick of men?

'Splain it to me!

[Taverner]

22. I think we're mixing up pronouns here

She in my case is Ruth

I think it came across as if I was talking about Claire.

sorry....

[kwassa]

23. I thought you were talking about Vanessa! So complicated ....

[driver8]

43. After he stayed with her at the hospital, I thought she was going to

do him in the back of the hearse.

[driver8]

42. Does this mean we won't see Maggie anymore? I like Maggie...

David and Keith have become the most sympathetic characters. I was watching last night with my wife and we both agreed that David has the best facial expressions -- hilarious.

[LynneSin]

46. Oh, I'm sure Maggie will be around, I mean there was a Climax

Like we all knew what that meant!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

25. I know a lot...

of folks don't like Nate, but I thought that he finally seemed at peace right before he died. He seemed more like the Nate of old, before circumstances forced him to make life decisions that may not have been his first choices. When we first met him he was just a guy working at a natural foods co-op and pretty content. The further he got from that simplicity, the uglier he got. At the end, he seemed to be feeling a strong pull back to that simplicity, with his disgust with the funeral industry, his interest in the Quaker meetings and his attraction to Maggie.

At the end, he just seemed so clear and at peace, finally.

[Taverner]

26. Kind of like the end of "American Beauty"

Lester Burnham finally finds happiness, and then he gets shot in the head.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

27. Yes!

Once you've reached "nirvana", I guess there's just no point in hanging around. ;)

[LynneSin]

28. If you hate Nate it's only because he hated himself

he became what he hated the most - just like his father

[Divameow77]

29. I haven't really watched htis season

How did Nate die? Did he have an affair with Maggie?

[Taverner]

30. Yes, he had an affair

and right afterwards his arm went numb, and he passed out and went into a coma.

Now he's dead.

[Divameow77]

31. Wow I think I might need to watch

the remaining episodes. I was just about to cancel HBO too.

[Taverner]

32. I think they're having a marathon next week

On Sunday

[Divameow77]

33. Thanks

for the tip.

[LynneSin]

34. I think all along the writers knew Nate would die in the end

Everything Nate was today was because of his father's death. He ended up in a job he never wanted and even met Brenda because of coming back home for his father's death. Ultimately Nate became his father and the writers new that the only way to complete "Six Feet Under" was to have Nate die. And for 5 seasons, the writers always had people conversing with those who had passed on whether it was the Fisher family with their late father or Nate/David/Rico conversing with their intakes. Heck they even had Brenda talking with Nate's late first wife Lisa. So it's only fitting that this season end the same way except this time Nate will come back and interact with those who have left behind.

I can guarantee it now - Nate will show up with Lisa to haunt and ridicule Brenda especially if there is a fight over their child Maya (Maya's parents, Nate & Lisa, are now both deceased). That's the reason why they allowed Nate a few hours of life left so he could 'say goodbye' to everyone and especially with telling Brenda it was overwith. Plus you could tell with his last time with Maggie that he wanted to end things with Brenda so he could be with Maggie

[xxqqqzme]

37. I have been staying w/ friend who does not

have HBO - even though I have offered 2 pay 4 it....who is Maggie? Is this a new character? I don't remember a Maggie from previous seasons.

Nate gone - not surprised

Is Ruth's husband gone as well? Love Cromwell but I could see that wasn't going 2 work.

[seaglass]

39. Here's the recaps of the season - highly entertaining...

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=68&sort=&limit=

[LynneSin]

45. Maggie is George's daughter

She lived in Phoenix but came to visit dad after his bout with Electro-shock Therapy. Ruth came close to a nervous breakdown and begged for Maggie to stick around and help out with her dad. Since Maggie has been around the Fisher household, she and Nate became good friends and even asked Nate to join her at a Quaker meeting (one of the episodes had a friend from the church died and they showed a Quaker funeral. Nate thought it was kinda neat and decided he wanted to attend Quaker meetings).

So that's Maggie. BTW, her stats - she's divorced and she had one child who died from severe disabilities

[Taverner]

38. I always kind of had that feeling BUT

Originally last season was designed by Alan Ball to be the final one. He was talked into another season and this is the result.

Just think how different it would have been - Nate and Brenda finally together and working on having kids of their own. Lisa's murder finally solved.

[Maddy McCall]

48. What if he really died after his earlier AVM surgery...

and all has been a dream, as it pertains to his life, since the surgery.

[jbane]

35. The last two episodes have been very good.

Most of this season has been stuck in an endless cycle of pissing and moaning until Nate blew a fuse in his dome.