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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:59 AM
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Poll question: Van Halen or Van Hagar?
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:00 PM by StopTheMorans
The answer should be obvious to any discerning music fan, <guitar solo> but alas, some still persist in their ignorance (hence the need for this discussion/poll) <guitar solo>. Van Halen was never really a coherent musical entity until Sammy Hagar joined the band (<guitar solo> ), they were mostly just a lot of annoying David Lee Roth preening with a lot of guitar solos <guitar solo>. It's indisputable <guitar solo> that, upon Hagar's arrival, a period of collaboration and unparalleled musical inspiration blossomed, and that the music from this period is far superior to anything from the David Lee Roth days. Discuss..<guitar solo>.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:02 PM
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1. Van Neither
if their bus went off a cliff, i would not weep much. one less arena cock-rock band, oh well....
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:03 PM
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2. Van Johnson
Really, a fine actor from the 40's. Of course, he has nothing to do with music, but...
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:04 PM
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3. I agree with your post, somewhat..........
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:15 PM by WeRQ4U
I do like many of the DLR tunes. In fact, my favorite Halen songs were done with DLR. However, the band seemed more like a Vegas Side show than a serious musical machine. With Hagar the horrible, they grew into themselves. It wasn't just noise and screaming, it was actual, coherent music. I may not have liked the songs as much as I did Panama, Hot for Teacher, Jump etc., but I like MORE of the songs.

Is that sarcastic enough?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:04 PM
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4. Sammy Hagar whipped that band of malcontents into shape
:thumbsup:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:05 PM
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5. you, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar
:thumbsup:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:09 PM
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9. I am only speaking the objective truth
Hagar went from Montrose to Van Halen and did wonders for both bands
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:05 PM
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6. Both of them suck
but Van Hagar sucks more
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:07 PM
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7. but you forgot the (guitar solo)
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:08 PM
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8. Sammy Hagar should have just stayed off by himself.
Hagar was better than Van Hagar, and Van Halen was better than Van Hagar. Bringing in Sammy only turned them into "just another band"




I am really starting to question your musical knowledge. :P
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:09 PM
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10. (guitar solo)
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:12 PM
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11. next you will tell me that Journey sucks.
:rofl:
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 PM
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12. (guitar solo)
(drum fill) tweedle-deedle-deedle-MROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW!(DIVE BOMB)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:43 PM
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25. I hate both of them equally, in fact I hate them so much I'd vote
Cherone if it were an option, just to drive whatever's left of Van ( last name here ) into the ground.

They fucking suck, U2 is ten times better than Van fucking whatever is.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:49 PM
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26. well-reasonsed analysis, Slice, although i do not believe that it is
physically possible to suck more than U2. U2 are the absolute zero of suckiness; they are the suck point that no others may surpass.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:58 PM
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27. Then for the sake of brevity, I propose we both make one capitulation
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 02:58 PM by DS1
You agree that U2 has a measurable amount of talent.
I agree that Van Halen = U2 + 1
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:05 PM
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29. agreed
:thumbsup:
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:18 PM
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13. Van Cherone.
:evilgrin:
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fhqwhgads Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:22 PM
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14. van cherone...
...rocked. van hagar and van lee roth sucked.

ok, i'm kidding. they all sucked.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:28 PM
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17. I think
Van Stevie Nicks was the best iteration of the band.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:23 PM
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15. (guitar solo) (extended guitar solo) (massive boredom)
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:26 PM
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16. Hmm. How much do I like VH.
what's my name here again?
CLUE.
I have a 1987 Kaw 750 painted exactly like the Frankenstrat.
Obsesesd; I am.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:39 PM
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18. VAN HAGAR, NO DOUBT IN MY MIND!
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:39 PM by asthmaticeog
The DLR version of VH would never have written the flawless, fist-pumping rock anthem "Dreams," which ended the Democratic Convention of '04 on such an exciting high note that it was all I could do not to jump out of my chair and shout "FUCK YEAH! KERRY/EDWARDS!"
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:41 PM
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19. OMFG!!!!111!!!!! LOLOL! I wanted to yell almost the same thing, except
I would have yelled ""FUCK YEAH! KERRY/EDWARDS! (GUITAR SOLO!!!!!!!!)" ROFLMAOPIMPNTILZILJXOPIJGOTIHOSPINTGPOIXNPOGINCOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111!!!!!!!!! ONE!!!!!!!!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:47 PM
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20. Sammy Hagar - musical equivalent of Cheez Wiz
I think I remember that in a rock 'n' roll magazine from way back when and it has stuck with me ever since.

Nothing Van Hagar did could compare to Runnin' with the Devil or VH's cover of You Really Got Me... VH with David Lee Roth was a band with charisma & personality. With Hagar, they were just another rock 'n' roll band.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:53 PM
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21. You are high on crack cocaine, my friend
Which I say with all due respect. Van Hagar makes babies cry and pregnant women vomit. Van Halen makes the sun come out and every male is a lot more handsome.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:30 PM
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23. watch out! (guitar solo)
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:13 PM
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22. Van Hagar's the "Members Only" of music
with the jacket and the permullet
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:33 PM
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24. I agree, they are the best
:thumbsup:
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:58 PM
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28. neither- hair metal bands fronted by rightwing sexists suck ass
and eddie van halen doesn't play innovatively- he plays fast.there's a difference
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:07 PM
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30. i agree, they are much better than U2 (guitar solo)
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:24 PM
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31. Wait...
what about Van Morrisey? Now *that* was a combo!
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