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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:01 AM
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One of the nuttiest things I have ever read.
This was on FreeRepublic, in one of that Clinton obsessed nutjob Mia T's posts:

"Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude" :wtf:


by Gail Wynand

Liberals have always had problems figuring out causation. They believe for example that because people who smoke (sometimes) have higher rates of cancer than people who don't that smoking CAUSES cancer, worse, they believe that if people get cancer it is the fault of the "tobacco companies" (i.e., caused by the manufactures of tobacco products). They further believe that the remedy for this fault is that billions of dollars in "damages" should be transferred from the wealth of stockholders in tobacco companies to a handful of plaintiffs lawyers including the First Lady's relatives and others closely associated with the Democratic party. And they believe, apparently, that if young people are now experimenting with sex at early ages and with more profoundly explicit practices than in past years, and that if the President of the United States decides to enroll a young intern in rendition of such services to his middle aged libido resultantly staining both her dress and America's reputation, that a spontaneous wave of teenage sex experimentation, sucked (sorry) the poor middle aged chief executive into its vortex.


Deducing causation in most events takes deliberate, focused, thought, insight, and a disciplined intelligence that doesnt skip foundational indoctrination (aka actually studying in school). Causation of the diseases associated with cancer is highly complex and to a large degree still unknown. That smoking is probably not healthy for you is well known. That a middle aged chief executive, Yale Law School graduate, former professor of Constitutional Law and State Attorney General should be responsible and accountable for his own actions including HIS perjury and obstruction of justice would seem axiomatic to all but a liberal who has the capacity to adopt causationally convenient theories based solely on tangential proximity to the event under examination rather than through any rational analysis of the importance or significance of the asserted cause to the event. Thus, "guns" are used in some murders therefore, to a liberal all "guns" should be either banned or kept in locked safes with trigger locks so as to disarm the law abiding public and eviscerate their legally recognized right to effective self defense.


Quite simply, one has to be pretty stupid or very corrupt or both to be a liberal, at least and for sure to be a Clinton supporter. But it is worse than that, one also has to deny the importance of human consciousness and free will. That is, a Clinton defending liberal apparently believes that childhood psychic trauma, teenage sex trends (remarkably and largely only rampant among the social classes targeted by liberals for social intervention for the past 40 years) and the power of "addiction" which used to be considered merely "habituation" in more stalwart times, are more significant than free will in determining human conduct.


Clearly someone should notify America's founders that they have erred... men are not deserving of self goverment, because clearly self government is nothing more than the aggregation of all our psychic traumas and libidinal confusions.. and look where that has gotten us...one Clinton leaving the white house and one aiming for the US Senate for the State of New York... perhaps the liberals ARE onto something? But no, study the last two Clinton elections carefully... this most shameless and shameful American President is the product of plurality (less than majority) votes obtained through the gile and intrigue of an elitist cabal of intellectually impaired and ethically corrupt media manipulators aligned in effect with the electoral tampering of one man, H. Ross Perot, who although he occasionally gave a good speech was still intelligent enough to know his only role was to twice deny the conservative majority of American voters a first choice for President. And now even as Evita determinedly grasps for the Security Power and Influence of the Senate seat, one sees in her early campaigning the overriding awareness that her only hope is the sowing of confusion and ignorance... the demonization of a long time public servant whose accomplishments are towering, the pandering to the lowest and most depraved and corrupt anti social organizations and figures (no not the mob, the teachers unions and Mr. Sharpton). Arm in arm this body of liberal enthusiasts march forth to assure that America continues to be contaminated and disabled by their control of government into the 21st century... arrogantly and in complete disregard of truth, rationality, or the notion of liberty... they pound at the very gates of freedom, threatening to burn (redefine to mean the opposite of what they say) the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Gettysburg Address and replace them with their own Orwellian Banners of "community" "children" "education" "fairness" and all the other focus group tested liberal-illogicisms. But the translation exists and when the alien identifying sunglasses are donned all of their slogans can be seen to read "Be Liberal, Live in Ignorance and Servitude"





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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:04 AM
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1. The Founding Father's have erred?
Ok. Find another country where the COnstitution wasn't written in "error." Please, be my guest... leave. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out of my country.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:06 AM
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2. Wow.
Just......wow.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:10 AM
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4. check out the whole thread
Mia T is one of the biggest RW nutters of all. She posts enormous multimedia anti-Clinton rants there all the time :eyes:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1459576/posts
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:21 AM
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5. I don't think that I can
My computer is still a Free Republic virgin. I've been trying to keep it that way as long as I possibly can. :D

It's for her own good! ;-)
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:30 AM
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6. You mean she's out-done Alamo Girl?
That takes considerable risk, personal initiative, and a solid Work Ethic -- three things the DemonRats don't have.

--p!
President, Excellence In Sociopathy
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:09 AM
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3. please excuse my language but
Gail Wynand seems to be pretty fucking stupid herself! I'm sorry but it needs to be said out front...
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:40 AM
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7. hmmm
Someone's been using the big word generator-and attempting to define people and concepts of whom and which they have no idea.

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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:46 AM
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9. hi miss_kitty!
you probably mean me, I've been using big word generators tonight and I really have no idea what I'm talking about...
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:07 AM
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28. Yeah We all know what a flashy show off guy you are!
:silly:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:51 AM
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11. Is there such a device as a big word generator? :D
My co-workers used to complain about the way I talked. I tend to use precise language. I don't necessarily use big words on purpose, but I enjoy choosing from a large variety of words. Sigh. I wasn't trying to show off. It's just that I love language and precise speech.

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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:06 AM
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27. Oh NO!
I didn't mean that...The author of the above missive uses big words in such a way that it is confounding and belittling.

I use many big words, but I try to use them in a way that they can, for the most part, be figured out through context by the listener or the reader.

I totally agree, I love language and precise speech. I also like to be instructive, and feel that if big words are used judiciously, one can be instructive, as well as precise.

And your co-workers are plain lazy if they don't want to learn new words. I always ask if I don't know.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:43 AM
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8. poor writing, bad structure and word usage, like she just discovered.....
a thesaurus. Lots of words thrown in to look "smart." Not much of a thesis. Really a bizarre, rambling piece of showiness. Little substance. I could barely read it, it was so poorly written. If I was correcting a paper or giving advice to someone in a writing workshop, I would have a field day with this. Not to be mean, but constructive criticism. Out in the regular world though, when I see something so poorly written, I pretty much disregard the content and the argument put forth. Because if someone can't write properly, and attempts to make a poorly thought out argument are dressed up in a fake intellectual manner, then what they are saying is useless to me.

This is hate and anger dressed up with big words to make it sound palatable. Not to mention it's shoddily researched, if researched at all, pure innuendo, has and shows no cognitive value.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:53 AM
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12. Bingo, WB
You saw exactly the same thing that I saw.


Plus, it's quite apparent from her complete inability to posit a convincing argument that shows what complete crap it is.

It doesn't make ANY freakin' sense.

The big words didn't help.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:53 AM
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13. I agree.
"Because if someone can't write properly, and attempts to make a poorly thought out argument are dressed up in a fake intellectual manner, then what they are saying is useless to me."

I tend to reject a priori anything that is poorly written or filled with spelling and grammatical errors. Maybe I'm prejudiced, but I love language and hate to see it butchered. When I see that someone has a poor grasp of language and how it should be used, I tend to reject the content as well.

:shrug:

Shame on me?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:10 AM
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16. I completely understand
I'm a writer, and I can handle writing that isn't all that good. Not everybody can be a great writer. But this just butchered language and did so in a condescending, know it all manner. It read to me like a 17 year old reiterated a concept their dumb uncle talked about, except tossing in big words for effect.

Plus, if you can't write all that well, then you can at least be concise. Hard work can make you a solid writer, even if you have no talent whatsoever. Bob Woodward is a little bit like that. The man isn't a talented wordsmith the way, say Gabriel Garcia Marquez is, but Bob can put together a sentence and get his point clearly across. Anybody could read a Woodward article or book and understand them easily. That doesn't make him a great writer, but he is able to use what he has to accomplish what he wants. Hemingway has a famously small written vocabulary, and he's definitely a great writer. This piece here is garbage. It looks like some of my earlier columns did, when I thought a thesaurus made up for my lack of thought, although I did manage to put forth much better arguments and facts then this writer did. Very poorly done piece.

I reject content too. I can tell right off if it's worth reading or not.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:30 AM
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20. She's also
The Queen of run-on sentences.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:15 AM
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21. right on nt
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:14 AM
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29. As I was reading it, I thought about the irony involved
in criticizing the intelligence and thoughtfulness of those she's railing against.

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:30 AM
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30. no kidding
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:48 AM
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10. She's nuts and she owns a thesaurus
Just because she covered it up with a lot of pretty words doesn't make it any less than the BULLSHIT that it clearly is.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:12 AM
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17. as you said in your reply to my post
we are exactly on the right page in our agreement here. I wouldn't even call them pretty words though. She just tossed in big words in an ugly way, thinking it would look pretty. Pure bullshit. No doubt.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:56 AM
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14. That's some of the most ridiculous asinine crap I have ever read
It amazes me that these goobers gripe about how they have been shut out of society, but come up with things to say that are so stupid, asinine, and blatantly schizophrenic, and still can't understand why they are shut out of society. HINT: it's because you need psychiatric treatment! We don't listen to nutcases for advice FOR A REASON!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:12 AM
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18. lol nt
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:57 AM
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15. Just based on the first few sentences I'm not going to read the rest
Yeah them poor, defenseless, tobacco companies need somebody to stick up for them.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:27 AM
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19. free will huh? like the freedom to have an abortion or a gay marriage?
these right wing bedwetters couldn't think their way out of a wet kotex wrapper.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:34 AM
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22. Law student, or just a freeper that can read (selectively)
"would seem axiomatic to all but a liberal who has the capacity to adopt causationally convenient theories based solely on tangential proximity to the event under examination rather than through any rational analysis of the importance or significance of the asserted cause to the event."
I weep for the future of Amerika. :cry:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:38 AM
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23. Crap like this tells me one thing:
In a debate on the issues, she couldn't find the facts, even if they were tattooed on her ass.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 03:31 AM
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24. Bwahahahaha - MiaT is both insane and a liar
Gail Wynand was a fictional character in Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. I should think Mia would have the sense not to use such a well known name for her whackjob libertarian rant, but then she is obviously several french-fries short of a Biggie. :rofl: :crazy:
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 04:25 AM
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25. The way I see it,
there are a lot of individuals making comments in this thread who have failed to grasp that Mia T's efforts are, in fact, progress for those who frequent THAT PLACE.

MT (or, Empty, if you prefer), has managed to figure out how to unlock her CAPs and use a spell check. This, in and of itself, is indicative of a MORAN genius.

Now, you expect logical cognitive thought?

What are you trying to do, prove her point?

An ability to unlock caps and and use spellcheck has not been scientifically linked to advanced cognitive thought.

In my opinion, any Freeper who takes the time and effort to unlock CAPs, use spellcheck, figure out what a thesaurus is, and make an attempt to expand their vocabulary, ought to be lauded.

The fact that the thought process is, at best, non-linear, non-sequential, and bordering on gibberish does not detract from the effort Empty has made.

To be perfectly honest, we may be observing the political equivalent of primordial ooze rising from the slime.

Take a moment and consider a Freeper who cares enough to make an actual attempt to spell multi-syllable words correctly, may continue in this course of self improvement and learn to think coherently - then analytically, then VIOLA! An Enlightened Liberal!

Personally, I am encouraged by the progress Empty has made. And, if the transmogrification stalls, I will become a convert to the theory that if you give 10 monkeys 50,000 years and word processors, you will get the complete works of Shakespeare. (How ironic, a Freeper proving to be Darwin's 'Missing Link'.)
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 04:28 AM
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26. Brilliant analysis
You need to post more
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:35 AM
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31. My IQ was starting to drop, reading that piece of shit.
Luckily I finished in time.

This truly is one of the most insane things I've ever read. I like the part where "the Founding Fathers have erred". No, you stupid fucking woman, the Founding Fathers never really intended for self-governement for all. The Founding Fathers wanted only white males with property to have any input into government such as voting.

A long rant against the evils of Liberalism. A stupid Ann Coulter twunt.
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