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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:27 AM
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Opera is not bad!!
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 08:45 AM by ixion
Bizet's Carmen is one of my favorite's.

You'd know many songs from it if you heard them. :-)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:30 AM
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1. Actually, it's Bizet's Carmen
And one of my least favorite, though it definitely has some of the famous songs in it.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:32 AM
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3. Hahaha! I would have said the same thing....
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:34 PM
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22. Brilliantly complex and interesting minds think alike
:7
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:46 AM
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7. d'oh! you're right. corrected.
what the hell was I thinking?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:46 AM
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8. You were thinking of copycats...
:)
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:48 AM
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9. lol... true
:rofl:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:31 AM
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2. There's a quotation about opera which I love
I forget who said it - but I love he sentiment expressed.

"Opera was born a perfect child, but then ran into puberty issues from which it has yet to emerge."

Put another way - don't forget the early operas. Giulio Cesare by Handel is on at the Promms on my (alledged) birthday, so I'll be jollying into London that evening. :bounce:

I'm not so keen on Bizet - or even much of the grand opera of 19thC. Italy; but give me something early, some Wagner, or even a lot of modern opera (Britten rocks) then I'm yours forever.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:36 AM
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5. I love Wagner.
Lyric Opera of Chicago did the Ring Cycle. I was lucky enough to hear two of them.

I like Carmen, too, Rigoletto, and Der Rosenkavelier.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:37 PM
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24. Wagner is the king of opera. And other German opera writers.
The Italians, I hate to say it, just don't really "get" opera as an art form. They get it as an entertainment form (esp. Verdi), but not as art.

Except Puccini, he was a genius.

But Wagner! Ach, there's opera for ya.

I've stood through the Ring Cycle twice at the Met, and stood for a few one-offs, as well: Lohengrin (Robert Wilson's brilliant stage design production), Die Meistersinger, Tristan Und Isolde (Oh, man, is there anything better than that opera?!), Das Rheingold and Die Walkure (outside of the times that I also stod through them as part of a complete cycle).

Fuckin' love Wagner.
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LouisianaLiberal Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:54 PM
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28. "Wagner's music is better than it sounds"
Mark Twain said this (I think that's the quote) - opera was looked down upon by intellectuals at the end of the nineteeth century, and it was "wagnermania" that made it respectable. I like Wagner too, but I can only listen occasionally -
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:32 AM
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4. I have heard Opera is a great browser too
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landdaddy Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:50 AM
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10. It's the best!.......eom
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:04 AM
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16. I've tried it, wasn't fond of it
I much prefer Firefox, but that's just me.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:43 PM
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27. I just switched to 8.02. It rules. n/t
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MissHoneychurch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:39 AM
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6. Carmen is my favorite opera
just been to an open air performance 2 weeks ago :D
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:54 AM
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11. Is that the one where Bugs gives Elmer a shave and a haircut?
I love that one...
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:59 AM
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13. that's the Barber of Seville
but it's a classic nonetheless. :hi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Barber_of_Seville
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:38 PM
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25. No, that's called "The Rabbit of Seville", though the music is, of course,
from The Barber of Seville"
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:42 PM
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26. The best is when Bugs and Elmer work over Wagner's 'Ring' in
"What's Opera, Doc?"

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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 03:41 PM
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30. Oh, Bwundilda, You're so Wovely
Yes, I know it. I can't help it.


-- Don't tell me that I don't know my classics!
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:58 AM
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12. I like Don Giovanni
You have not lived until you have seen an opera at New York's Met.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:59 AM
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14. yeah, Don Giovanni is another good one
thanks! :hi:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:00 AM
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15. I love Offenbach's Belle Nuit
it's so romantic - I want someone to sweep me off my feet to that song
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:05 AM
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17. Oh, so you like a romantic duet sung by two women?
How sweet!! :)

:) :P :bounce:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:41 AM
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20. Get your head out of the gutter and
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:50 AM
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21. Oh not the gutter, that is an ethereal duet... hardly the gutter
Where's your mind? :shrug: tsk tsk
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:07 AM
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18. La Boheme by Puccini
timeless... and redone a bazillion times in modern form (i.e., Rent).

Porgy and Bess, the quintessential American opera and a visionary work (for being based on black characters) and gorgeous timeless music by George Gershwin.

Don Giovanni and The Magic Flute showcase Mozart's skill with crafting musical dialogue.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:13 AM
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19. Opera's really great!
:-)

I didn't think much of it, or no more so than other classical music which I do enjoy, until I went to the opera in a real Opera buffs' town: Vienna

Man those people were doing cat calls, stomping their feet, standing and cheering, or jeering as the case may be. They treated it for all the world like a baseball game, for all they were dressed in their finiest frippery. :-)

I've loved opera ever since then. :D
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:36 PM
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23. Ummm...you guys can have it
I'll watch ballet, see a symphony and even engage in the study of a dead white european male given the chance....

But opera...I just don't...like
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 03:04 PM
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29. I felt that way for a long time.
But a few years ago it was like I suddenly got it. And now I love it. Weird, eh?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 03:55 PM
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31. I like opera!
Props for being an opera lover!
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