The Kennewick Man

[johnnie]

Can science change the common belief of who occupied America first?
Does it matter? Do you find it of interest? What are your thoughts?

[sui generis]

1. the Kennewick Man came on Noah's Ark

with them dinosorisis. Really.

[sybylla]

2. Okay, what's my science doing in the lounge?

Who left this here? Pick this up and put it back in the science forum where it belongs, young man.

[johnnie]

4. Well

I'm just curious what the lounge lizards think. Those science people scare me. :scared:

[shockingelk]

3. What's the common belief?

Bering straight?

[johnnie]

5. That the Native Americans were here

Before the "white man".

[cleofus1]

6. a whole lot of guessing

put some long hair and brown skin on that skull and you have an indigeonus individual...and if white man settled north america...where the fuck are the rest of them...we have plenty of evidence that points to the contrary...but you find one skull that does not neatly fit into what people will accept as a typical native skull and presto...every single white man wants to claim that native american treaties and rights should be overturned...lots of politcs being injected into this old canard...grrrrrrr

[miss_kitty]

7. there probably were some people here before him :)

who knows? I think it's cool.

[Dogmudgeon]

8. Kennewick flamebait?

Actually, not Johnnie; it's the very topic of Kennewick Man. And yet, recent research makes the story far more interesting.

It appears that there were five major groups of humans who came to North America at the end of the last Ice Age. One of them was essentially European in character.

Artifacts that strongly resemble Soultrean stone tools from Southern France have been found scattered across North America at different sites, although they seem to be a few thousand years newer than the Soultrean tools. Some of them pre-date Clovis, the oldest habitation we have full information on. (Older artifacts exist, but do not have nearly the detail that the whole Clovis "town" shows.)

The topic is the life work of Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza. He has written many academic works, as well as a few lay ones. The Great Human Diasporas is his book written for the public; it is excellent, and I can't recommend it highly enough.

--p!

[cleofus1]

9. very probobly the people who came to north america

evolved into the present day tribes...
this is from an article this year

"But scientists filed suit, insisting the remains, dubbed Kennewick Man, could not be linked to any of the tribes. Initial tests showed the skeleton was 9,300 years old, and some scientists suggested that rather than resembling Native Americans, the skeleton was more like the prehistoric Jomon of Japan or Polynesians or Caucasians. "

the only thing anyone has is supposition...

[johnnie]

11. Interesting

I will look into this. I find it all very interesting, but I have never had a chance to really research it. I do have some material at home, but it is a bit outdated (1980s or so) and I'm not too sure on how accurate it would be.
But I jotted down some of your information, thanks.

[fishnfla]

10. There is a great article in last months harpers on this

"mighty white of you" great read

[johnnie]

12. Thanks

Maybe I can find it online.