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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:25 AM
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Tweety says rock is dead!
Tweety and his panel says rock music is not relevant anymore,that the protest songs won't have the impact they did in the sixties,because nobody listens to rock anymore.There are no large rock stations in big cities anymore. Is he right?
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:27 AM
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1. He's right about one thing - the stations.
Because they're all syndicated. So if a toxic chemical train derails two miles from your house, you're fucked. :eyes:

But rock is dead? No. The protest songs? Sour grapes.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:28 AM
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2. Tweety?
You mean that dude on the "news"?
I guess he hasn't heard of Green Day. That tour is selling out, and the CD is number one. And the kids know what is going on.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:35 AM
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7. Chris matthews.
That's what I thought. They are just so out of touch they know not what they speak.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:41 AM
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14. Matthews is a shill
I don't think he is as lost as many "journalists", but he can be funny. The main stream media is a crock of shit, Matthews is just another idiot to fit in line with the idiots that support georgie.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:28 AM
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3. Right, all those sold-out concerts being performed by rockers, even the
old croaks from my generation, should tell someone something.

Who does he say everybody's listening to, Clint Black?
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:37 AM
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9. They mentioned the concerts.
They couldn't give a raeson for this.Something about ipods.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:30 AM
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4. Most rock stations are "Corporate Rock"
Where either Clear Channel, Infitity, and others control just what "rock" is. DJs at those stations are highly restricted in their playlist. That means most songs on rock stations, espically in major markets have to be approved by corporate programmers up the food chain.

Some more rural, still independent rock stations (101.7 out of St. Cloud MN) is ine example of a locally owned station with more freedom. But also low powered college stations are where you have to look at to really get all types of rock that goes against the status quo.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:32 AM
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5. Tweety has rocks in his head!!!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:35 AM
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6. I've been trying to tell ya'll that Tweety is way out of touch with
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 09:47 AM by The Backlash Cometh
the mainstream and with the new generation. He's a representative of a very small minority of people from the N.E.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:39 AM
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13. That was what I thought.
They hang with their circle of beltway friends and they really don't know what's going on.
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:35 AM
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8. They said it was dead when Elvis came back from the army
And we saw how right they were then.

This gibberish comes out from time to time - it typically happens right before something new lurches out of the underground, kicks in the door - plugs in its guitar, turns the amps to 11 and outrages the same people who were saying rock is dead.


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interupt Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:37 AM
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10. What?! Def Lepard is no longer listened to?
Pfft!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:38 AM
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11. Clear Channel killed Rock Stations
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 09:39 AM by SoCalDem
Even small towns often had competing rock stations.

they had actual stations with actual DJs and office people.

They ran around town doing silly stunts and having contests for teenagers to get involved with..They took call-in requests..

Canned music these days with canned news breaks, pretty much makes the stations now little more than remote controlled robot stations.. They all play the same music..(probably at the same time)

B O R I N G ...

My hometown rock station KLSI had a KLSI Diamond-Miner Contest when i was in high school.. The jist was this:

A person in town was THE diamond miner and if you asked "Are YOU the KLSI diamond miner?" and they WERE, YOU won a diamond ring..
My best friend won that contest.. It was an ok looking ring too,. The diamond miner was the mayor's secretary..

They beauty of the silly contest was that there were literally thousands of teenagers asking EVERYONE that question. people who didn't know what the hell they were talking about would ask, and then the station got a free ad..in person :)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:39 AM
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12. Rock says Tweety was never really alive. n/t
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:42 AM
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15. tweety smoked a crack rock.
nt
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:47 AM
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16. There are so few stations that ROCK!
Tweedy has his head in the sand.
There is a huge amount of protest music being produced at this time. With the Clear Channel takeover of most of the radio stations and the remaining independents trying to compete with the same format there is hardly any room on the dial for alternative music let alone any format that exposes the true underbelly of ROCK & ROLL.
Unless you have a local community/public station with volunteer DJs with a progressive managment. Such stations are strewn around the country and many can be found streamin on line.
Its only takes a few days of listening to feel the heartbeat and realize that musicians are still rockin the boat with inspiration of intellect.
My favorite: www.kvnf.org
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:53 AM
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17. A panel of 50-something white men in suits proclaims rock is dead!
Don't they wish!

From "why do they always send the poor" to Eminim's "vote" songe , there is a lot of music out there that talks about the war, the present political climate and much more. You don't heare these songs on the canned music stations, but they're out there.

Only radio rock is dead, but ipods, music sharing, and concerts are very much alive. It just means the mainstream is farther away from what "the kids" are listening to.

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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:15 PM
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23. they say the music fails to inspire
like in the sixties.I agree with that it's hard to get the masses fired up about anything these days.It's not the musics fault,it's the all about me culture.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:47 AM
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18. Does he realize that Springsteen...
sold out 14 shows at the Meadowlands in his last tour in about 2 minutes, so someone is clearly still listening to rock music.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:06 PM
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19. "long live rock"--The Who
Down at the Astoria the scene was changing
Bingo and rock were pushing out x-rating
We were the first band to vomit at the bar
And find the distance to the stage too far
Meanwhile it's getting late at ten o'-clock
Rock is dead they say
Long live rock

Long live rock! I need it every night
Long live rock! Come on and join the line
Long live rock! Be it dead or alive

People walk in sideways pretending that they're leaving
We put on our makeup and work out all the lead-ins
Jack is in the alley selling tickets made in Hong Kong
Promoter's in the pay box wondering where the band's gone
Back in the pub the governor stops the clock
Rock is dead they say
Long live rock





Long live rock! I need it every night
Long live rock! Come on and join the line
Long live rock! Be it dead or alive

Landslide, rocks are falling, falling down upon our very heads
We tried but you were yawning. Look again
Rock is dead
Rock is dead
Rock is dead

The place is really jumping to the high watt amps
'Til a twenty inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps
In the blackout they danced right into the aisle
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock
Rock is dead they say
Long live rock

Long live rock! I need it every night
Long live rock! Come on and join the line
Long live rock! Be it dead or alive
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:20 PM
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20. At first read I thought you meant Jeff Tweety of Wilco...
what a relief it's only Chris the Screamer.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:17 PM
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24. Although that actually sounds like something Jeff Tweety might say.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:52 PM
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26. heheheh thought that just after i hit send on the above post!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:32 PM
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21. Well, of course. When I think rock music, I think Chris Matthews.
Same as asking Andrea Mitchell or Howard Fineman about the state of rock music today.

Stick to things you know about, Tweety.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:17 PM
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25. SNORK!
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:45 PM
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22. 'Dear Mr. Bush I have a complaint .....
you sit in the White House and pretend your a saint" ... it's my nephews new song called 'No Blood For Oil' send this to Tweety :)

"No Blood For Oil"

Dear Mr bush i have a complaint
you sit in the white house and pretend you're a saint
you and cheney put on christian masks
to hide your motives from the questions we ask

no blood for oil
no draft on U.S. soil

Divine intervention your holy war
your daddy's quest to settle the score
the rich white male with corporate ties
your patriot act back by lies

with freedom's at stake by your holy reich
you'll wait for the draft till there's no more to fight

no blood for oil
no draft on U.S. soil (end)

here's the link to listen to it .... http://www.nonamesoldier.com
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:55 PM
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27. The true spirit of rock is dead.
I agree with him. Rock is all cookie cutter, corporate, boring bullshit these days with very few exceptions. This happened in the late 80's with all the idiot glam bands combined with non-music people taking over the music business. Sad but true.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:58 PM
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28. When was the last time Tweety got a rating above 1
So who te fuck care wheat he says....

When September comes is gonna be heard and seen by more people today than see or here tweety all week....

Fuck him and his lame ass show....
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:53 PM
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30. I like him on SNL.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:43 PM
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29. tweety is dead
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:02 PM
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31. He's got a point about radio.
It sure as hell isn't what it was back in the 60s. You've got corporate radio stations playing "radio ready" music on a clock designed solely for the purpose of making money for radio owners and record execs.

The local DJ - if there is one - doesn't have the choice about what he plays, and he can't make a political statement by choosing a protest song.

But rock itself dead? No. There are venues other than commercial radio.
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totallynluv Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:20 AM
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32. Tweety is a poopie eater.
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