Tammy Wynette's "Stand By Your Man," dedicated to Condi Rice.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

Sometimes it’s hard to be a woman
Giving all your love to just one man
You’ll have bad times and he’ll have good times
Doing things that you don’t understand



But if you love him please forgive him
Even though he’s hard to understand
And if you love him, whoa be proud of him
’cause after all he’s just man

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When the nights are cold and lonely



Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man



And if you love him, whoa be proud of him
’cause after all he’s just a man

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When the nights are cold and lonely

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man

[Heidi]

1. 'scuse me while I hurl.

I can't stand Condi Rice, but I wonder whether these jokes would be made if she were a man. Prolly not; that's my guess. :shrug: (I'm putting on my flame retardant tie-dye jumpsuit now.)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

2. I make Scott McClellan jokes ALL the time, and he's not a woman.

Seriously. You should do a DU search on Scott McClellan and filter it using me as an author. If you compare what I say about him with what I say about Condi, I'm giving her a free pass.

Is there anything going on between Condi and Bush? Does it matter? Should we care?

Maybe, No, Probably not.

But she's a public figure, and an incompetent one at that, and my reaction to that has nothing to do with her placement of X and Y chromosomes.

:patriot:

[Heidi]

3. I know.

You joke might have been funnier if you'd done a Scotty "stand by my man" thing . . . but then you'd have pissed off another DU faction, no doubt.

Let 'er have it. She's a traitor to the people in about a jillion ways. Sorry. I'm edgy today (but it's not a "woman thing" particularly. :rofl: )

[bettyellen]

4. when it's a woman being ripped apart, more often her sexuality comes into

play, and very often her looks and it's just brainless and tiresome as well as pointless, no matter what side you're on, or which woman you're going after. makes it a little more accepatable for the other side to play that card too. i know you don't want to believe it's sexist, that you're an equal opportunity ball buster, but women are much more often minimized this way, and yeah, you're particiapating in it.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

5. But I really am an equal opportunity ball buster...

...and my participation in anything is a matter of perception and intent.

It may be true that "more often her sexuality comes into play, and very often her looks," but that didn't happen in this thread.

I respect your opinion to consider me brainless and tiresome as well as pointless. It may not reflect reality, but hey, this is America.

:patriot:

[bettyellen]

7. not you, the things you pick on condi for. too easy and meaningless.

you're implying somehow george is "her man" yet you don't see her sexuality coming into play here? it's kinda hard to miss. just because you didn't get graphic (thank god, LOL) doesn't mean it ain't there. what's tiresome is that this sorta banter takes the place of discussion the persons actions/ accomplishments, good or bad, and it kinda negates the woman as a person who actually does something outside all that woman stuff people get fixated on. jesus christ we had DUers explaining where Cindy Sheehan's husband was, as if that mattered a whit. why does everybody have to drag a man into the picture when discussing a woman? it implies the woman on her own ain't worth the ink.

[complain jane]

9. Condi's fair game.

[madrchsod]

6. hey guys are visual

we "judge" by looks then get around to the more important things. hell it was either huffington or dowd commenting on condi`s violet colors..let`s face it condi is the best looking woman in bush`s world. everyone else looks like his mother and dam he`s got a slender intelligent woman of color right next to him in a subservient role..what more could a spoiled narcissist from a wealthy east coast family want?

[bettyellen]

8. that's the excuse men use to force women into chadors....

they can't help it, they're visual, not responsible for their reactions to the sight of women.
:puke: