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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:37 AM
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So, MrG collects historic WWII rifles. His cousin is a gunsmith and
dealer. Last night he brought home an M1 Grand. This one was issued in 1954, and therefor not used in the War, but it is in perfect condition because it was not used. The funny thing is, it looks just like the Enfield that he has which was used in the war, and also the Mosun Nagant (sp) that was used as well. I cannot believe how much historic WWII rifles cost. I could have bought a month's worth of groceries for what that cost him. But, he's been waiting a very long time and has been a very good boy. :hi:

Why am I telling you this? I have no idea, but it was cute to see his face light up when he showed it to me.



***Disclaimer: For those who would label MrG a dumbass. He collects (but doesn't hunt) with these. One they wouldn't be accurate. Two, they are collectibles.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:41 AM
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1. I've actually fired one.
Makes big noise. :)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:47 AM
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8. He fired his Enfield once on the range and we couldn't figure out
just how far off it was. :hi:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:41 AM
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2. I am sure he isn't a dumbass. Dumbasses make
dumbass comments! I am sure his guns are pretty cool! :hi:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:51 AM
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14. Hee.
:hi:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:43 AM
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3. Did he get it throught the Civilian Marksmanship Program?
Or from a dealer?

And it wouldn't look "just like" an Enfield or a Nagant...those are both bolt action, not semi-auto :)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:47 AM
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7. Yes. He explained the semi auto to me last night...ad nauseum.
Take away the bolt and they look the same to me. ;) His cousin is a dealer who purchased it through the civilian Marksmanship Program for him. His cousin is one of the people who go through the guns when they come in for the program. I even got to hear the chicken coop story and the Finns v. the Russians with the Nagants story last night. :hi:
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:49 AM
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10. Hehe...
we enthusiasts can sometimes forget that other people aren't as fascinated by this sort of thing as we are :)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:52 AM
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15. I swear he works up a sweat talking about it. His cousin is even
worse. He spent six months looking for the "perfect" gun for MrG. And then they took it apart and looked at every little part. :7
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:44 AM
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4. I wish I had one!
No dumbass comments here!

I have my S&W revolver and my ancient Remington shotgun, and that's it...

Spent maybe $200 on both put together.

Some day, though, I want a few collectable guns.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:51 AM
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13. He has waited a long time. Now that I am working more, it is not
such a huge chunk out of the budget. Of course, he would love to have several more. :)
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:44 AM
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5. Actually, the Garand is remarkably accurate for a miilitayr weapon...
I have done some competitive shooting with one, and was very impressed. Does your husband have a model 1891 Argentine Mauser? They are usually very accurate as well (I have had two and was very happy with both).
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:49 AM
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11. This one is set up for tournament shooting with the glass, but
he's not sure if he wants to pursue that. No he doesn't have a Mauser, but he was just looking at them. It really isn't an interesting and education hobby. :hi:
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:56 AM
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16. Cool. If he is interested in other oddball military weapons...
give me a shout. I believe that I have the Only Mannlicher-Carcano (WWII vintage Italian 6.5x52mm) that has double set triggers, a full Mannlicher-Schoenauer stock, and a lovingly placed side mounted scope. Also shot a three shot group at a hundred yards that could be covered with a penny, so some of them are not as notoriously inaccurate as billed.
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:44 AM
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6. Actually, it's a "Garand"
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 09:45 AM by Diogenes17
My dad has one. I like and appreciate rifles, was raised with them, and am a pretty good shot. I wouldn't have one in my house, though. And while I think we should take every single hand gun and automatic on the planet and melt them down into a big lump, I have no problem with rifles. Go figure.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:48 AM
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9. These are for display only...usually.
He thought about tournament shooting as this one has been set up for it, but he really doesn't have the time. :hi:

I am not the collector so I am just proud that I could remember the name of his Nagant. ;)
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:50 AM
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12. hey any guy that'll buy his wife's
'ladies' things' is no dumbass.

a lot of people collect a lot of different stuff. I think part of the joy of collecting involves creating a holy grail and obtaining it.

I'm glad he found it!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:02 AM
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17. It sometimes makes me wish I collected something.
:hi:
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:10 PM
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27. Pick something you like
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 01:10 PM by miss_kitty
I have several collections and have stopped buying stuff about 10-15 years ago. I have North African shoes (3 pair, two from Morocco, 1 from Tunis, all gifts) Jewelry of all kinds (nothing super valuable, but all very pretty) Beads, Silver souvenir spoons and a lot of ephemera I am working to put into art pieces, jewelry, little sculptures and 'thing collages'-ooh and marbles I have found while doing landscape jobs and small stuffed animals-uh no beanie babies.

:hi:
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:07 AM
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18. how does it look just like an enfield?
enfield is a bolt action rifle... garand is semi-auto
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:09 AM
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19. It looks just like it to me because I am not a gun enthusiast. I guess
I should have mentioned the part where MrG talked on and on over the differences between bolt action and semi-auto. :eyes:

Honestly, some of you people and MrG would make great friends. I feel like I have sinned hugely. Good gosh.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:47 AM
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20. I love WWII era rifles
The M1 Garand is a fine piece of work. 1st semi-auto rifle to be standardized by any military. Gave US soldiers a huge advantage over Mauser toting Germans and the ridiculous bolt action Arisakas used by the Japanese.

I love the Lee-Enfield Rifles, particularly the Rifle No. 4 used by the British in WWII---best bolt action combat rifle ever made

I myself used to collect WWII rifles. :hi:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:53 AM
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21. He really loves it. His brother bought him the Enfield 10 years ago.
He returned the favor by buying his brother the Nagant at Christmas time. You can pick those up pretty cheaply. :hi:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:07 PM
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26. Yeah, I have a Nagant myself
a carbine. Thing kicks like a horse
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:57 AM
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22. Nice. Hubby collects firearms
And no, he doesn't hunt either. Actually, I would be far more likely to shoot something to eat than him (when I first moved in, he had a herd of raccoons he was feeding regularly, something I put a stop to).

He has an M-1 - nice rifle. I grew up around firearms and have always loved to shoot. And for the record, I personally have nothing against hunting as long as it is done responsibly and the person doing so is using what they hunt. My dad fed my family for several lean years on what he could put in the freezer either from hunting or raising a pig or cow.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:58 AM
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23. MrG hunts, just not with those. We eat everything he gets. I am in
total agreement with you. :hi:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:07 PM
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24. The point upon which Phil Gramm and I agree...
He once said, "I have more guns than I need, but not as many as I want." My wife didn't understand that sentiment, so I told her to substitute the word "shoes" and she understood immediately.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:16 PM
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30. Ha. MrG loves them and I try to do my best to pay attention and share
this with him. :)
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 12:21 PM
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25. I thought the government still gave M1 Garands away surplus.
I heard on TV that you could request one for free from a government stockpile. Am I wrong?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:15 PM
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28. That's wrong. They go to dealers and then are sold. Would if
we could get one for free. :hi:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:15 PM
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29. Oops!
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 07:15 PM by MrsGrumpy
we could get one for free. :hi:
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:53 PM
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31. Ahh yes, the Garand.
PKOW!
PKOW!
PKOW!
PKOW!
PKOW!
PKOW!
PKOW!
PKOW!
Tinnnnnnng!
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