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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:53 AM
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do we have our own smear machine?
if so, i'd Like to be a cog in it.

i don't care who i need to smear either... grieving mothers, or wounded veterans; Line 'em up, and i'LL take them down with attacks on their sanity, moraLity, and sexuaLity. (patriotism smears are so Last year)

there's no cesspooL i'm afraid to dredge.

no Low i can't stoop to.

so, set me up man!
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:54 AM
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1. Please do not go down that dark path, sniffa.
reaLLy. pLease don't do it.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:30 AM
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18. Agreed. We are Jedi, not Sith.
Stay on the Light Side of the Force...don't be tempted by the illusory power of the Dark Side. Real power comes from integrity, like that displayed by Cindy Sheehan.


Did I just prove what a dork I am, or what?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:41 AM
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20. You're not a dork.
I'm married to a Jedi who is, oddly enough, about half whatever-the-hell-Spock-is. :rofl:

We can fight a very effective battle with truth.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:54 AM
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2. No, but lets plot one out.
I'm betting we could "swiftboat" Roberts...
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:55 AM
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4. roberts?
you must be joking. we have to go after the reaL threats... such as, that mother who doesn't want her son's name on 'west arLington memoriaL'

did you know she remarried? *gasp*
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:59 AM
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8. That would be good...
I wonder what her tax records say? And her credit history?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:56 AM
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6. No. The "swiftboat" thing was built on lies.
A campaign of truth about Roberts' professional record would suffice.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:59 AM
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7. Well quoted half-truths are good tools, too.
We should not be ashamed to rake some muck. They wallow in it.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:00 AM
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10. We're not _them_. (nt)
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:00 AM
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11. I completely agree.
I am more than ready to fight dirty. We played hard and honest and we lost. Time for the gloves to come off.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:19 AM
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15. i Like your styLe midLo
:loveya:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:20 AM
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17. Well, YOU brought it up.
I was only thinking it.

Time to fight dirty.

:loveya: back
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:45 AM
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21. then pLease teLL me why
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 12:08 PM by sniffa
my posts are getting Left and right over in GD for posting info on Larry norther - the cross crusher?

these fuckers go after cindy - i think it's onLy fair we return the favor. :nuke:

edit: now i know. :hi:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:09 PM
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22. Okay, fill me in. I was at Costco.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:18 PM
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23. i was posting
everything i found about the cross-crusher... address, phone, his high schooL, etc.. (not just i)

and they aLL went poof!

and then skinner made an announcement - and it's aLL cLear now.

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 01:19 PM
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24. Oh, gotcha.
I just saw the pinned thread in GD. Posting private information about someone is something best left to freeps.


Although the guy is an A1 asshat.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:55 AM
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3. A vital part of any smear machine is the delivery system
That part is missing in our machine.. The republican machine not only has one..they have warehouses full of spares.:(
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:56 AM
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5. Collection point
is needed for all info...true or not......

I suspect if we (or at least some among us) were willing to abandon our prinicples we could be just as sleazy as the repubs.....
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 10:59 AM
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9. Let me tell you a little story about a smear campaign.
True story, too.

My 9yo goes to the local elementary school. I am a pretty 'large' presence there because I volunteer a great deal, donate a lot and generally calls em as I sees em.

The new assistant principal, yes, we actually have a person with that title, decided he was going to take me down a notch. So, he started to trash me to the teachers, etc.

Problem for him was that the teachers are friends of mine and were reporting back to me. It got so bad that I had to hire an attorney because this guy was harassing me and stalking me, seriously, in a fucking elementary school.

Then, an interesting thing started to happen. People started feeding me all kinds of little tid bits about this guy...he was having an affair, had raped his wife, tried to force wifey to have an abortion, you get it. And, I passed each little tid bit on to the principal, the superintendent and the director of elementary education.

So, in the end, I won and he was out of job.

Smear campaigns work. I am all for them.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:09 AM
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12. Thats how it works.
Network. Learn the dirty facts they try to hide. Present the facts in a maximally damaging way.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:16 AM
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13. My friends even christened me
GNN - GallagherNewsNetwork. All scandal...all the time



No, not that Gallagher.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:16 AM
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14. she's just after money
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:19 AM
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16. I will never forget being in
Portner's bar in Alexandria one night with a lot of 41 supporters. In walks Paul Manifort, of Black, Manifort and Stone, republican smear elite extraodinaire with a woman who was so obviously not his wife.

And they say liberals have loose morals??? What I saw on the Washington scene in the early 80s is why I am the raving liberal that I am today. The hypocrisy was simply stunning.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:37 AM
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19. me, too... another volunteer.
I'm good at writing LTTEs and am also pretty good with sarcasm (a weapon Rush uses all the time)

We're too late to trash the Schiavo parents, though I did hear a story from one of her nurses about what her father would do when they were alone together... if you know what I mean.

And, what about those rumors of Tom DeLay & Jack Abramoff? I mean, he didn't just buy access with those checks, he bought access, wink wink, nudge nudge.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 02:05 PM
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25. I predict: swift boat moms for truth
I am sure they are recruiting RW moms with allegedly dead sons as we speak. :eyes:
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