A group of my patients at work want me to get them some WEED!

[maveric]

I wont do it, a licensed nuse would face stiff penalties for doing so, and it wrong, but it strikes me funny that they (ages50-65), tell me that the meds they are being given dont work well enough. They also told me that the food suck so badly that the only way they can eat it is if they are stoned.
MJ is a medicine plant!

[John Q. Citizen]

1. Help them get their CA MMJ cards. N/T

[maveric]

2. I could do that but the facility would not allow it.

There is one young man who burns incense in the bathroom and tokes up. He is constantly being threatened with expulsion.

[John Q. Citizen]

7. The facility can't break the law, and the law of CA says if you have

a card, you can toke up.

Even if you need to take them outside in a wheelchair to do it.

I know people who have cards, they ligh up on the street walking by police stations and it's not a problem.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

3. Isn't there something called Marinoll or the like? It's

Marijuana in a pill form. Maybe they came get that.

[maveric]

4. Hell! maybe I can get some of that???

[John Q. Citizen]

9. It's outragously expensive and not readily available

[yewberry]

17. Marinol kind of sucks.

Unfortunately, Marinol doesn't seem to work as well against pain as marijuana.

The biggest problem with Marinol, in my opinion, is that it's a pill. When a person is dealing with truly bad nausea, pills just don't stay down.

Frustrating.

[SpiralHawk]

5. My wife died of cancer about 5 years ago

She did not like pot and never smoked it. She was brilliant -- graduated cum laude from Harvard, majoring in Latin and ancient Greek, then earned two Masters and a Ph.D from Brandeis U. She did not like to fog up her thinking.

But as her cancers progressed, and the chemo and radiation and bizarre cancer-patient diet -- she was in bad shape. Some friends brought her some marijuana to try -- and as a last resort she did. She lost her ongoing sense of nausea, re-gained her appetite, experienced a diminishment of pain, and found renewed interest in life. Those benefits continued for the 4 months she lived on.

So the pot did not cure her cancers, but it did make them bearable. With that benefit she could really make the most of the time she had left -- and she did. She wasted not a moment in self-pity, but Completed With Grace the Beautiful Life of Spirit and Discipline she had begun some 59 years earlier.

For all this and the good I saw it do for her, I thank the natural plant that grows on the earth and gives us marijuana. It was Sweet Medicine for my wife.

[jonnyblitz]

11. it irks me to think that something that was so beneficial to

your wife, and countless others I have heard about, could have gotten her or they in soooo much trouble if caught. makes NO sense to me. BTW I choose to smoke it recreationally. I don't drink alcohol. :shrug:

[miss_kitty]

22. Stephen J Gould was a convert after he got cancer

It actualy IMHO prolongs life because you feel like taking in food. I took Zofran, which generally kept me from vomiting, but it did nothing to stimulate my appetite. Not like pot. Stopped my alarming weight loss.

I'm glad your wife found pot, too. I do consider it a miracle drug.

[havocmom]

6. I'm getting there and I have never touched the stuff. But constant pain

makes life more than a tad unpleasant. Pain meds and anti-inflammatories all have nasty side affects, as you well know. It is just plain greed by Big Pharm that keeps pot illegal. It is not the 'gateway' drug that booze is and potheads are not nearly as likely to become violent like drunks can. Ask violent offenders in prison about it... they did not start with pot, but the completely legal stuff which costs society so much more.

If a little weed could help people in pain get some sleep, their quality of life would improve dramatically. What the hell is the harm in that?

Yeah, I know, your license would be forfeit. I understand your situation. It is just horrible that those are the choices. We really need sensible drug laws in this country, you know, laws that serve the good of the people and not the corporations fucking the people.

[goddess40]

8. Those that oppose medical MJ are murderers

If those that are going through Chemo and are too sick to eat could use the MJ to give them an appetite I know the survival rate would go up. Without the necessary nutrients how can their bodies fight back? Those that didn't recover at least they would be more comfortable.

Edit: All right maybe murderer is a little strong but it isn't too far off. Too deny someone medical treatment because of some misguided "morality" or superiority is disgusting.

[jonnyblitz]

10. oh that must suck to be put in that postion.

I bet there is a part of you that kinda ,sorta wants to but it's not worth the trouble you would get in. I can't blame you at all.

[maveric]

12. I DO want to. These people are miserable and in pain.

The Doc's just pump them full of Vicodin that gives them abdominal pain and constipation. Thes poor people dont need that. Let them toke up and their pain will be lessened and appetite will return.

[jonnyblitz]

13. yep i knew that's what you would say.

:thumbsup: :hi:

[TreasonousBastard]

14. Tough spot you're in...

Such a simple thing to do for them, and you can't do it.

Sometimes life just plain sucks, but you have to carry on and deal with it as best you can.

[sakabatou]

15. This is why many think MJ needs to be legalized

[maveric]

16. If booze and cigarettes, which have ZERO medicinal value, are legal...

You know what I'm sayin here?

[Kali]

18. There are medicinal values for moderate alcohol use

but I know what you mean. Its stupid to have pot be illegal.

[LisaL]

20. True. Supposedly, red wine is good for your heart in moderation.

[LisaL]

19. Just say no. It's not worth it to do it illegally, you can lose

everything.

[maveric]

24. I have no intention to score for them. I just find it amusing.

[miss_kitty]

21. you know-my MD just suggested I got get me some pot

I want Marinol (dronabinol), but the GI fuckers and other docs won't give it to me. I got in a fight with them over it.
He told me "I can't. It's a class one narcotic"
Me: That's a political assessment, not a scientific one."
Him: "Well-uh-yeah-but it's not indicated in your situation."
Me: "Look. You gave me Lomotil, a Class one vaulted med which is contraindicated in my case (can cause blockage), Colestid, which is in no way indicated for my condition, and I am telling you a drug that works for me, causes no side effects, and is actually INDICATED in my case and you won't prescribe it? What's that MD after your name about? Don't they let you make decisions?"
Him: "Uh-Sorry miss_kitty. There's nothing I can do for you."

I go to my GP, A 1st year resident-"Uh," he says, "I can do that because it's only indicated in oncology. I really don't want to step on anyone's toes. Can you get THC in another form?"

[DS1]

23. Ouch

I'd spent the night figuring out a way to make a really slick delivery system. It would probably involved using the Icelandic approach of smoking weed, which is a mixture of weed and tobacco self-rolled. Then drop those self-rolled J's in a box of Marlboro whatevrthfcks and go with it.