Do you like meat? Do you like the taste of murder?

[sleipnir]

I got asked this question today by some very aggressive activists.

My response was (quite snarky): Do you have any free samples?



Needless to say, I left the activists shortly after my witty retort!

[RevCheesehead]

1. Answers: Yes, and No, I've never tried it.

:hide: Someone throw some popcorn over the wall, wouldya?

[Crazy Guggenheim]

2. I just say to people like that "Is that how your parents talked

to you?" They back right off.

[seriousstan]

3. MMMMmmm... Whale steaks with a nice baby seal sauce.Clubbed not throttled.

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4. Oh I just hate those agressive activists

:eyes:

agressive activists - sheesh

[Wapsie B]

5. I love meat.

I'll fire up the grill.

[madeline_con]

8. spotted owl or manatee tonight?

;)

[Wapsie B]

11. Spotted owl please

;-)

Manatee gives me gas.

[madeline_con]

18. white or dark meat?

hee hee

[Wapsie B]

24. White,

with gravy.

:rofl:

[napi21]

6. Well, I suppose you could consider killing plants murder too.

Don't those wackos think that every living thing has a right to life? Planats are living things! God knows, most of the ones I'e tried to grow died!!!!

I disagree with the method of killing that most meat packers use, but I can't say that I like or believe it's murder either.

[madeline_con]

10. Yep, trees scream when cut down...

they're the only ones who can hear them. :eyes:

[WMliberal]

46. i cut them with a spoon. just cuz it hurts more.

[jobycom]

20. You have no idea how tired vegetarians get of hearing that crap

At least five times a day. "How can you murder innocent plants, yadayadayada." Take a calm, non-activist vegetarian like me, catch me in the wrong mood with that comment, and you might wind up knowing how a baby seal feels just before it's clubbed to death!

:banghead:

PS I say this with humor. Hope you understand.

[friesianrider]

21. Respect, please.

Many DUers (including several mods) are vegetarian, and vegetarian/animal rights activists, including myself. Please respect our position and don't call us "those wackos."

Thanks. :)

[napi21]

71. I apologize for using that word. I meant no disrespect.

I have no problem with egetarians. I did the vegetarian munue for a month about 10 years ago when my husband was told he had to reduce his colesterol. It worked too, but he ended up having to have bypass surgery anywway and just won't give up his meat.

I didn't mean to agrivate anyone. It just seems to be a bit of an extremist view in the US.

[mike_c]

35. most plants are eaten (or cooked) alive, too....

Just sayin'.

[aquaman]

7. Jesus,

I don't eat meat, big deal.
You eat meat? Okay, your choice, who gives a shit. Both sides of this issue need to chill sometimes, personal choice is a good thing.

[madeline_con]

12. Are they willing to adopt all the cattle and chickens?

I mean, I've never seen an adopt-a-beef program. :shrug:

[friesianrider]

19. I've adopted cows before (and chickens, for that matter)

:shrug:

So many cows/chickens/pugs wouldn't be produced if people didn't think they need meat at every meal.

[madeline_con]

26. We'd still need homes for the ones already here.

:shrug:

[friesianrider]

30. Ok...

Point being? :shrug:

[madeline_con]

69. Point is, how many can you adopt?

I have room for one dog, which is already living here...

[friesianrider]

74. I'm sorry, I must be missing the part...

Where this has anything to do with whether or not eating meat is wrong.

But whatevs ;)

[madeline_con]

79. I could be drifting off topic a hair...

so, I'll just quit it. :hi:

[DBoon]

27. Someone eats pugs!!!

My god, they are such adorable dogs!

[asthmaticeog]

9. Though not quite up to the level of a medium-rare, dry-aged steak,

animal activists can be quite delicious when prepared correctly.

Perhaps it's because they're grain-fed?

[RevCheesehead]

17. Wouldn't those be the Angus Activists?

A bit pricey, but well worth it.

[WMliberal]

55. no, their soft texture is due to being chained to their pens.

If they can't move, their muscles don't get all tough and gamey.

[friesianrider]

13. Well....

I guess your answer was basically a "yes" then? A feeling animal did die for you to be able to eat it...and it was killed, no? Call me crazy, but that seems like murder to me. Not any judgment here although I am veg, of course it is your choice to eat whatever you want. Just sayin'.

[jobycom]

25. I'm vegetarian, and people who say things like that make me

want to eat a steak in front of them just to keep from being associated with them. Killing an animal is murder? So if you run over a rabbit you turn yourself into the police and cop a plea for manslaughter? If you discover that a brood of rats was chased from the field where they built your house or apartment you erect a memorial in front of it?

To me, killing animals is wrong. It's a bad thing, somewhere between wearing white after Labor Day and starting a war to slaughter 100K innocent people for no good reason. Where exactly it fits, I don't waste my time figuring out-- I just try my best to avoid doing it. But to equate eating a hamburger with grabbing a small child from her front yard, choking the life out of her, and throwing her body over a cliff--to me, that's just as wrong as eating a hamburger.

Just my opinion.

[friesianrider]

29. Dude...chill.

Just trying to get people to think a little. Relax! :)

[jobycom]

Wrong method, then

Extreme statements don't make people think. They make people dismiss the argument. Persuasion is much more effective.

[friesianrider]

73. Then why don't you try to persuade?

If you think eating meat is wrong, you should speak up. I've only ever seen you bashing animal rights, people, but maybe I just haven't been arounf DU long enough. :shrug:

[Catholic Sensation]

42. animals are killed when vegetables are harvested

knowing this, how does murder taste?

[CubsFan1982]

48. Me like fetuses.

Fetuses meat. Meat taste good. Grog!

[friesianrider]

51. Hmm.

Was wondering where you've been. Seems you always crop up when some crazy, whack-job vegetarians need a Catholic smackdown.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

60. His religion has nothing to do with this ...

Name calling is not needed ;)

[friesianrider]

64. But perfectly okay for everyone to have a vegetarian-bashing fiesta.

That's okay, calling animal rights activists "wackos" is totally cool.

[Catholic Sensation]

82. never called you whackos

called the people who took my joke serious "dolts"

difference

[Name removed]

86. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[friesianrider]

90. And calling veggies "dolts" is SO respectable.

You seem to have a habit of only showing up when there's some good veggie-bashing. What's your obsession? Or is it internal guilt, hmmm?

[Catholic Sensation]

61. it's called a common sense smackdown

[friesianrider]

65. It's called making yourself look silly.

:hi:

[Catholic Sensation]

76. would it be more silly, or less silly, than telling people who eat meat

they would eat fetuses? I think less because telling people they're closet fetus enthusiasts isn't so much "silly" as "batshit crazy stupid".

How about a different measurement, like, taking a comment like "animal rights insurgents" seriously. Is what I say more or less silly than something THAT silly?

[friesianrider]

81. I never said that people who eat meat...

would eat fetuses. I was simply saying that many people say they eat meat cause it tastes good. And I said that is a poor argument, considering some people like the taste of human flesh...does that mean I can kill people and cook them?

Please just try and be open-minded about this before you respond and actually think about what I just said.

[Catholic Sensation]

83. you are now a liar

[friesianrider]

87. Oh yeah?

I asked you to please look at what I typed and give me an answer, in a polite way. I'd really appreciate you thinking about what I typed in the previous post and responding.

[Catholic Sensation]

97. here is what you said

I also realize many of you would eat a human fetus if it tasted good, but there are MANY vegetarians, vegans, and anti-veal people here on DU, myself included, who think factory farming and mass slaughter of animals is wrong - whatever our reasons for thinking it do NOT matter - WE THINK IT IS WRONG

you said we would eat a human fetus. you denied saying it. you are, therefore, a liar.

[friesianrider]

104. Yeah, and?

Like I said, many people who eat meat would eat fetuses if they tasted good by virtue of the fact that they use the excuse that "it tastes good" for why they eat animals. I never said ALL people who eat meat would eat a fetus. But some DUers have said as much. :shrug: What's your point other than wanting to call me names?

And this isn't the first time you've gone on a vegetarian-bashing, name-calling rampage.

This is a great time to ask why your panties are in such a bunch. I only ever see you when you are in the mood to be nasty and rude to someone which usually happens to be a veggie or animal rights supporter. What's with your 'tude?

[Kali]

killed maybe, murder? I don't think so.

Isn't it actually a legal term? I don't believe you can murder non-humans.

[ulysses]

14. this is necessary

how?

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15. Where were they active and how did they agress?

just curious

[sleipnir]

22. They agressed by asking everyone this question when they walked by

It was a bit much...

Not that I have anything against any being pushy with a cause, but sometimes it's possible to take it too far. Thus, my response to them. It did pause them for a bit, enough for me to stroll on by.

[Skip Intro]

32. was this @ a grocery store, arbitrary spot on some street -

that's what I was asking

did they accost you?

I'm having trouble with the mental image.

[sleipnir]

37. Outside of a city park.

It was on the sidewalk outside of Tompkins Sq Park in NYC.

Nothing too out of the unusual for that Park! I wasn't angry, I was just a pit peeved with their overt attitude towards everyone who walked by.

[Mojambo]

16. Well, with some A-1 sauce yeah... n/t

[John Q. Citizen]

23. What was it Leonard Cohen said...?

"The prey reproaches the carnivore, the radish screams as it's roots are ripped from the ground."


sleipnir, your response was not only snarky, but clever and funny.

How did they take it?

[sleipnir]

41. They really didn't take it, it made two of them pause for a while.

Just long enough for me to stroll on by.

[DBoon]

28. I think we'd all be better off eating much less meat

But this position is not advanced by insulting complete strangers.

[friesianrider]

31. I agree.

It doesn't exactly do anything to perpetuate the unfortunate stereotype that people who support vegetarian diets and animal rights are nutcases.

[Elidor]

33. Meat is MUNCHIES!

Fire up the grill! I didn't spend half of eternity working up to an incarnation at the top of the food chain just to give up hamburger and pork! Bring on the BBQ and sauce! Gimme some brats and kraut!

Eat steak, eat steak eat a big ol' steer
Eat steak, eat steak do we have one, dear?
Eat beef, eat beef it's a mighty good food
It's a grade A meal when I'm in the moooooooo-d

Cowpokes'll come from a-near and far
When you throw a few rib-eyes on the far
Roberto Duran ate two before a fight
'Cause it gives a mighty man an awful lot of mighty might

- The Reverend Horton Heat, Eat Steak

[mike_c]

34. if we're not supposed to eat animals...

...how come they're made out of meat? I ask you. Case closed.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

36. You got a way with words .........

:rofl:

[smbolisnch]

38. So are children.

Would you eat them too? :shrug:
That's a weak argument.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

40. I wouldn't. But would you eat grass? How about an actual tree?

[friesianrider]

44. Probably because it doesn't taste good.

:shrug:

If you tried human flesh and it tasted really good, would you want to eat it regularly, or would you not eat it for moral reasons? And what moral reasons would they be?

[Crazy Guggenheim]

47. I wouldn't try it in the first place.

[friesianrider]

53. Why not?

[Crazy Guggenheim]

56. I'm not going to answer that.

[friesianrider]

63. BOOYAH!

Smackdown. :hi: I smell a hypocrite...

[Crazy Guggenheim]

67. Ok. You can get diseases from eating from your own spieces.

[smbolisnch]

68. You can get diseases from eating other species as well.

There is this phenomenon called mad cow disease. You should really check into it.

[friesianrider]

70. Right, because you NEVER get diseases from meat!

Please. Poor argument.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

72. Not by virtue of eating the meat itself.

[friesianrider]

75. Um, yeah, actually it is.

Actually, it would be. High protein diets are linked to numerous diseases and very serious health problems.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

78. Not like the way it is for eating your own species.

[friesianrider]

84. LOL...Prove it.

Show me where it is more harmful to eat HUMAN FLESH than it is to eat meat pumped full of antibiotics, hormones, and steroids. I'll await a respectable study on a diet based on human flesh compared to animal flesh.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

88. That shows how little you know in all your rhetoric.

[friesianrider]

92. I'm still waiting for you to prove your ridiculous statement.

And still waiting...

[smbolisnch]

93. I would like to see some proof as well.

:hi:

[Kali]

95. As are low protien diets.

[friesianrider]

107. LOL.

:hi:

[Kali]

85. you could substitute it with this: Hufu

Chuck Shepherd's News of the Weird (.912)
WEEK OF JULY 31, 2005

LEAD STORY

Mark Nuckols, a business student at Dartmouth, has begun selling a tofu-like food, Hufu, that is flavored to resemble what he believes is the taste of human flesh. His target audience is those who already enjoy cooking with tofu, as well as any actual cannibals who might settle for artificiality in order to avoid legal problems and logistical hassles. Nuckols said he has never tasted human flesh but based his recipe on cannibals' reported descriptions of the flavor.

[smbolisnch]

91. Ew, why would anyone want to do that?

:shrug:

[Kali]

106. I don't know but

"in order to avoid legal problems and logistical hassles." is pretty funny.

Probably tastes like pork would be my guess, and like food animals age and diet and muscling traits would have an influence as well.

[smbolisnch]

58. Probably not.

I am sure it doen't taste too good. Then again, grass doesn't have a central nervous system, so I am not quite sure where you were going. :shrug:

[Droopy]

43. uh, I think the statement from mike_c is a Homer quote.

[mike_c]

45. yarp!

eom

[smbolisnch]

52. Well pardon me.

It's still a weak argument.

[Droopy]

57. And it's not meant to be taken seriously

[smbolisnch]

62. Well

This is a serious thread, is it not?

[friesianrider]

39. People are meat.

Can I eat them? I've got a few topping my list if you give me the go-ahead, since apparently the only criteria for eating something is that it is made of meat...

[mike_c]

49. there are some very thin skins in here tonight!

eom

[friesianrider]

54. Yeah, meat-eaters are such babies.

I thought the same thing.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

50. Now I think you have gone a bit overboard now ...

[friesianrider]

59. LOL, why? Perfectly valid point.

It's a perfectly valid point. This guy said animals are made of meat, so that means they're made to be eaten. So are people.

[mike_c]

77. dude, you're getting all righteous over a HOMER SIMPSON line....

I mean seriously, take a breath.

[friesianrider]

94. Righteous?

Just making a point.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

105. But you did'nt have to attack his religion ...

Really ...

[smbolisnch]

109. He or she attacks vegetarians at every opportunity.

[friesianrider]

110. What are you talking about, please?

Are you referring to Catholic Sensation? If so, I didn't attack his religion. Just made a snide comment, sort of like the ones he/she has been giving me and other veggies all night.

[smbolisnch]

66. Why?

:shrug:

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80. Putting something to death before it dies of natural causes is murder

is it not?

Its life is being prematurely ended so that it can be eaten.

[mike_c]

89. you're aware that plant tissues are nearly all still alive...

...when they're eaten or cooked, I presume? Most can actually be propagated right up to the point when you chew them up, or toss them into the saute pan.

[smbolisnch]

98. And then I assume YOU understand

That plants do not have a CNS and therefore don't feel pain? I mean, being that you quote Homer and all, you should be able to understand that.

[friesianrider]

99. Oh boy. *yawn*

Do we really need to go into the neurological differences between ANIMALS and PLANTS yet again, or do we need to rehash this once more for the meat-eaters who wouldn't eat human flesh but are calling vegetarians the hypocrites?

If so, count me out. *yawn*

[friesianrider]

96. Simple as that.

[bliss_eternal]

100. Not to make light of anyone's feelings on this issue,

but I think your response is hysterically funny!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Apologies to vegetarian Du'ers.

[democracyindanger]

101. For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three.

Yeah, I stole that line.

[smbolisnch]

102. .

:boring:

[Catholic Sensation]

103. i love maddox

[khashka]

108. I like veal

Kill a little baby calf for me.

Khash.

[EstimatedProphet]

111. Locking

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