Iraqi Constitution

[Kerebos]

I'm pretty new here, but I read a lot on DU. There seem to be two choices (keeping it simple).

What is best for Iraq, a democratically elected government or

An Islamic state in accordance with the Koran, which is a holy book of peace that is to be respected?

The Koran is full of peaceful sentiments, as anyone who reads it would know.

[knowbody0]

1. i've just started reading the Koran

and am amazed at how quickly time passes while im reading, and how strangely grounded i feel after doing so. very peaceful sentiments.

[ofrfxsk]

4. You'd probably be even more amazed at how slowly time passes

for women in fundamentalist societies.
Not a flame. Just think about it please.

[knowbody0]

5. im talking about the Koran, not fundamentalism

[ofrfxsk]

7. In practice, I see no difference.

That goes for all religions. We women always are the first to lose.
If you can tell where any religion practiced in it's truest form exists I'll give you a million dollars.
If you can tell where any practiced majority religion exists that doesn't make women second class citizens socially or legally, I'll give you my right arm.
Just my opinion. :)

[knowbody0]

8. i do not understand your hostility toward reading

[Kerebos]

9. What is this about hostility?

The Koran delivers love and peace only.

[ofrfxsk]

10. I've no hostility toward reading whatsoever. On the contrary

I read everything I can. I have different beliefs than those who carry prescriptions for life's soul maladies from a "book" spoken by illiterate men in the desert hundreds and then thousands of years ago. It's irrelevant to me as a modern day woman who is against oppression of any kind.
My problem is that these words are used over and over to subjugate and domineer women. Iraq's constitution is just the latest blow. When are we women going to start standing up for our sisters be they in Islamist or Christian or any other oppressive society?

In a nice and sweet world, I'm more than open to religion.
We don't live in a nice and sweet world. That is my overall point.

I guess here we agree to disagree.

[knowbody0]

11. the best advice ive received

has been from the I Ching. "reading" the Koran does not imply to me conversion.

[ofrfxsk]

13. I hope you know I wasn't trying to insult you

Peace be with you and please have a good rest of the night. :)

[WCGreen]

12. I see your distinction and raise your implication.....

poker, I don't even know her....

It's the lounge baby...

You were expecting maybe Dostoevsky

[Floogeldy]

2. Check it out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=132

[Kerebos]

3. Your link went to a page

instead of a thread. Can you repost it?

DU is such a great resource I don't want to miss a great topic.

[Floogeldy]

6. I know my link went to a page.

You figure it out.

[bridgit]

14. imo civil matters are better served...

by separation of church & state but that's just me :kick: welcome to du, Kerebos, here's hoping you stick around for a while :hi:

[WCGreen]

15. Oh yes, I forgot to welcome you....

Welcome.....