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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:01 AM
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all this talk about texas......
....here's my two cents:

when blues move to texas, they're just getting swallowed up in a sea of red. having lived in texas for 11 years i can tell you, it ain't going democratic in our lifetimes. sure, there are great people in texas, but they are outnumbered by white trash three to one. and white trash vote republican...nothing will change that.

now even though the dems are outnumbered in texas, because texas is such a huge state there are tons of dems. why don't the dems in texas get together and organize a mass exodus from there where half will go to florida and the other half will go to ohio (the two important states we lost by wafer thin margins). this will do two things to ensure democratic control of the presidency and the congress for years to come. first, it will ensure that the dem presidential candidate will win ohio and florida every year, thus having them win the presidency. also, it will increase the representation in congress for both ohio and florida and shrink texas' representation by about 30%. seems like a win-win to me.

i moved out of texas this year and i'm living abroad. does anyone here know how i need to go about changing my voting registration so that i'm registered in florida?
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:04 AM
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1. I kind of resent that.
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 10:10 AM by Shell Beau
White trash? That is harsh. There is "white trash" (as you put it) in every state. Texas is just a large state. Texas is a lovely state, and I wish more blues would move there. It would only help the state.

Edited to add :popcorn:
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:15 AM
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10. Texas was a lovely state
Every day it becomes more polluted, more forests are clear cut to make room for crappy, cookie cutter houses built by assholes like Robert Perry, good people are run over by the business-suckup Supreme Court and legislature, and most of the people who live here now are not from here and don't give a rat's ass about Texas except what's in it for them (in my humble opinion). And half of the native old timers are on the take because they ARE white trash and don't care about Texas either as long as the polluting oil company checks are coming in.


:rant:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:19 AM
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13. You certainly have a right to that opinion.
Texas belongs to whomever lives there whether they were born there or not. What is happening in TX is happening all over.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:27 AM
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17. I went to Big Bend National Park
out in the middle of nowhere, should have been pristine. They had a cloud of smog like you wouldn't believe. Mind you, it was coming from the industrial plants in Mexico, but someone told me that those plants were actually selling energy back to the US and were down there to get away from the emission standards. Real great...
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:06 AM
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2. Why would I leave Austin for either FL or OH?
I can think of a lot of other places I'd rather live in this country. Hell, Washington State and Oregon are also places where there aren't huge Democratic majorities statewide. I'd rather live in those climates, rather than FL or OH.

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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:17 AM
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11. i know what you're saying.....
....but they are still blue states. the goal is to get back the white house and the congress from the fascists. whatever it takes, that's what we should do.

i hate the climate in ohio too. some folks like cold winters, not me. the climate in miami is way better than central texas if you like warm weather year round.

anyways, it's just a goofy idea i'm kicking around. obviously, it'll never happen.

anyways, any idea how i can get registered as a voter in FL? seems like my votes in texas just get swallowed up....i'd like my vote to have a chance at actually being worth something.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:42 AM
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21. If you actually want to register in Florida
I think you're going to have to establish residence there.
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/regtovote/regform.shtml
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:21 AM
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15. Living in Austin Texas is just like...
Having a beautiful sundae made of a HUGE scoop of Pecan Praline ice cream next to a HUGE scoop of Coffee ice cream smothered in Sanders Hot Fudge, nuts, homemade whipped cream and a cherry, surrounded by a 6' wide moat filled with vomit and dogshit.

By the time you've gotten to the sundae, you've lost your appetite, and if you stay in the middle it's kind of a limited diet.

I lived in Houston/Galveston for 10 years. I'd rather have been in Purgatory.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:26 AM
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16. No offense, D. I like Austin a lot....
But it's really not all that liberal. It is compared to the rest of TX, and there may be a pretty big concentration of liberal-minded people there...but...

As far as fair pay, and health benefits, public transportation and equal opportunity employment...it's only a little better than the rest of TX.

Sure has some great food though.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:42 AM
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20. I still don't want to leave a place I like for a place I don't.
Politics aside, I still have to live there.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:07 AM
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3. why the fuck would anyone want to go to Florida
especially if leaving a red area like Texas is the goal
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:13 AM
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5. because it would be easy to overtake the reds in fl or oh
the majorities there are very very slim.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:14 AM
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7. Not worth the price of actually living in that shithole
:shrug:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:08 AM
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4. As white trash, I take offense to all of your sentiments.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:14 AM
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6. sorry
didn't mean to offend you.
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jandrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:14 AM
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8. I call BS on this one.
Especially if Florida or Ohio are the choice destinations out of here. Rednecks are everywhere, and while Texas has it's Bible Belt firmly tightened, there are certainly worse places to be. Personally, I like it here.

You did the right thing in getting out, IMO. Me? I'll stick with the "white trash" and we'll head on down to Black's BBQ for some ribs and Tecate.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:20 AM
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14. no BS here
read my original post and you'll see why fl and oh are the choice destinations. its a matter of the dems controlling two important states with lots of electoral votes. its about getting the white house and the congress back from the oily fascists. it's not about barbeque.
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jandrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:39 AM
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19. No, I read the original post and it's crap.
And it IS about BBQ and quality of life. One doesn't effect political change by pulling up one's roots and moving to another part of the country. It's far better to be in the belly of the beast and fight the good fight where it needs to be fought than to move to a strange place just because you think you might be a swing vote.

Voting doesn't mean shit anymore. The Republicans have the voting machines, so you could move every goddamn Democrat in the US to Ohio and Florida and it wouldn't mean a thing.

REAL change will come in the communities, at the grassroots level. Running away from the areas that need role models the most smacks of defeatism.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:15 AM
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9. Oh, by the way, are you coming by the house this week?
I've been at a conference for 3 days, but I'm back on regular schedule now.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:18 AM
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12. i have been busy as hell......
i'll try to stop by today
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Katidid Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:33 AM
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18. Can you explain ...
I don't know what your definition is for "white trash". Is it based on living conditions, color of skin, religion, location, education or what?

As far as voter registration in Florida ... do you really think your absentee ballot is going to be counted? .... assuming you are still living 'abroad'.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:55 AM
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22. Locking.
Region bashing does not have a place on DU. A lot of Dems live in Texas and are working very hard to turn it blue again.
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