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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:23 PM
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Folks: GAS UP YOUR CARS TONIGHT!
we just found gas for $2.84. SIGN ON PUMP SAYS "TOMORROW'S PRICE = $3.19"

look. if you have 1/2 tank AT LEAST, do yourselves a FAVOR and GAS UP TONIGHT

gonna get worse. get off your ass and AT LEAST save a couple of $$ on THIS fill up.

can't help you after that but by DAWN, it will be MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:25 PM
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1. Done.. See my thread about the gas...
:)
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:48 AM
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61. from $2.69 tp $3.15 in 3 hours (Pittston PA)
guys at work were up in arms -- coming into work a local gas station had prices for regular at $2.69 - about an hour later it was up to $2.79 - by noon it was $3.15

Yeah, I know oil rigs and refineries were hit bad by Katrina -- but some how I can't shake the feeling of MAJOR PRICE GOUGING is occuring

for the past few months we've been given the excuse of high gas prices is due to:

1. lack of refining capacity
2. market speculation

yesterday - bush* agreed to open up oil reserves... Question: if there are not enough refineries and prices are "market driven" - then what good will the oil reserves do to lower prices?

Well, it won't lower prices, it may stem gas shortages a bit -- get ready for gas lines
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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:26 PM
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2. Agh!
Gassed up on Monday, so I'm okay....for now. Thank God I have a car that gets good mileage!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:29 PM
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3. It's over $5.25 / gallon in some Atlanta areas as of tonight.
:scared: Went up from $2.65 to $2.99 to $3.75 in Athens, GA today.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:38 PM
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9. now that is gouging!
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 07:39 PM by CountAllVotes
Demand a receipt for that purchase and be sure to keep it too! I would and I would put it on my credit card if at all possible so you can contest that charge when they are found guilty of price gouging!

You can and you will fight these greedy bastards and you will win!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:57 PM
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15. I'm in Athens, GA. I filled up for just $2.99 before the prices went up
too much more at the local stations. Another Athens DUer reported $3.75/GAL in Athens at a Chevron on W. Broad St. My husband had to go to several stations to find gas. He called his ex wife in Atlanta
to warn her and she said it was crazy and expensive.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:33 PM
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29. My sister told me $3.64 in a small town outside Atlanta
but she had been out of the house since 7:00 so who knows how bad its getting there. They also had lines of an hour or two and were limited to 10 gallons. This is an area that had tornadoes yesterday - some 40 homes were declared un-habitable.
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never give n Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:32 PM
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53. GA residents report price gouging
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:35 AM
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62. It was $3.69 this morning at the QT
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:36 AM by RebelOne
on Cobb Parkway and Allgood Rd. in Marietta.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:30 PM
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4. CITGO, here I come.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:33 PM
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5. Too late for me,
I got it yesterday at $2.79, today the cheapest I find is $3.15.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:34 PM
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6. I did that on Sunday
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 07:36 PM by CountAllVotes
luckily ... when they were expecting Katrina would hit - I gassed up and topped off too. Price was $2.99 at that time (last day for Discover 5% cash back on gasoline is today - so too late so I really paid $2.83 a gallon).

I only needed less than 5 gallons so it was not too much luckily.

Limit your trips, carpool is you can, stock up on items if you have a place to store them.

If you haven't gassed up yet, you'd really better do it ASAP because it will only go up in price!

:kick:

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:36 PM
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7. And it's amazing that the station is pumping from the same shipment it got
days ago, so there's no need for them to raise their prices. It's not like their costs went up. Certainly their next shipment will cost more, but while the gas in their reservoir, it should be illegal to just keep jacking up prices all they want every couple hours.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:39 PM
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10. that's what I'm thinking; how the f do they know they must raise
prices?

This all is surreal, almost.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:08 AM
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69. In their defense...
...they are flying blind, too, to some degree. It makes perfect sense tht prices should go up when the supply is threatened. We'll face weeks of lines and "out of gas" signs, I'm afraid.

Five bucks a gallon this early is gouging, though, I believe.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:38 PM
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8. Curious; how do they know this?
I'm not by nature a tin-foil wearer (it does hideous things to the dye job), but I can't help but feel like somebody is profiting obscenely off of this.

Have I joined the tin hat club?
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:40 PM
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12. like I say ...
charge it on your credit card, keep the receipt and turn them in for price gouging. This is illegal and they know it!

Fight these greedy bastards! Fight them! Do not let them win!


:kick:


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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:40 PM
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11. I filled up the gas tank early this afternoon.
The gas stations were charging $2.95 (three stations) or $3.59 (two stations) for the same grade of gas :wtf:
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:40 PM
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13. I topped mine off this afternoon
The local Costco had premium for 2.759. Regular was 2.59. These prices won't last long.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:41 PM
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14. Yuppers. Did it today. Gas shot up .15 overnight in Eastern WA
Called my family in SC and told them about the shortages in Atlanta. My mom drives over 40 miles each way to her job---her boyfriend does the same. They already have to fill up 2x's per week just to make it. Unfortunately, she can't afford to move, and there are no jobs that would pay what she makes in her town. There is no public transportation. They're fucked.

I called them and my grandma today and told them to GET GAS NOW and DO NOT WAIT until tomorrow because it may be too late, or too expensive, or both.

I have a tiny little Mazda that gets about 30mpg highway. Today it took over $16 to put in 1/2 tank.

Hubby put in 1/2 tank yesterday and I topped it off today. Today at 1:30pm it was .15 higher than it was at 4pm yesterday. Cheapest gas in town, and there was a line of cars waiting to get in. Alot of people were filling up their car AND gas containers.

Never seen nothing like it.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:57 PM
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16. Prices going up hourly.
According to denvergasprices.com, the price at Bradleys, a cheap gas place, was 2.63 at 10 am today, then by 2:30 it was 2.79 when I filled up and they were changing it to 2.89 as I left.

http://www.denvergasprices.com/index.aspx?s=Y&fuel=A&area=Lafayette&area=Thornton&station=All%20Stations&tme_limit=72
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 07:59 PM
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17. Yesterday AM - $2.79. Yesterday PM - $2.99. Today ... $3.49!!
:wtf:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:00 PM
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18. Perhaps they are taking that No gas on Sept 1 movement seriously,
and trying to get as many people to fill up as possibly can. :shrug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:02 PM
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19. Fuck, matcom I thought you'd be the last one to succumb
to this "gas panic" that I, to tell you the truth, am getting pretty goddamn sick of.

Redstone
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:05 PM
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21. "succumb"?? "panic"??
dude. its up there. THAT is fact.

also fact is that the PLAN for me is to get my motorcycle license NEXT WEEK after i get back from FLA and get my scooter (maybe week after)

at 70mpg i'll be GRINNING at the prices

"panic"? no.

public service announcement?

what the HELL is wrong with that? :shrug:
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:17 PM
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23. Because, my friend, panic is undignified. Besides,
the people who panic are creating the exact shortages they are afraid of.

If all the cars in the country are now carrying full tanks instead of half-full ones as usual, THAT's what's going to dreate a shortage.

I give up trying to talk reason to anyone.

Redstone
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:20 PM
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27. so, you suggest we run 'em dry?
:shrug:

sorry. dont' get it.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:30 PM
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28. No, I'd suggest that everyone calm the fuck down.
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 08:31 PM by Redstone
Actually.

But I see I'm whistling in the wind here, so I'll shut up. Everyone else seems to favor running around like chickens with their heads cut off, so who am I to be a contrarian?

I'm more than a little disappointed; I thought DUers were more levelheaded and intelligent than this constant panic is indicating them to be, as a group.

Sorry to be contrary, but this is getting depressing, and I think it's time for me to shut the computer off for the night before people start to get angry with me for disagreeing with "the wisdom of the crowd."

Redstone
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:51 PM
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35. Redstone: It's no longer a panic, it's an investment
Buy now, or pay later.

Granted, it will go down, but only after Bush is out of office, and someone with some common sense comes in - recognizes the ENORMOUS debt we're in - raises taxes across the board in order to balance our budget - gas being one of them. Granted, none of our fuel tanks will last that long, but in the short term, buy now, suffer later.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:13 PM
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38. My friend, you don't get it. If everyone had just stayed calm,
stayed home, and not joined in the panic, that $3.50 per gallon gasoline would have gone begging for customers.

And the price would have gone down. supply and demand, and all that.

But it's too late for that now, and I'm tired of repeating myself.

See you in a couple of days.

Redstone

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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:34 PM
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40. I get what you're saying.
It's a collective action problem. I'm too muddy headed right now to give a lucid definition of these, but the canonical example is the Prisoner's Dilemma. In essence it's a situation where when everyone's looking after #1 they wind up more screwed than if they cooperated, but since the cooperation of others cannot be assumed they wind up looking after #1 anyway.

Have a good one. :toast:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:43 PM
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50. uh, no, the pipelines in the southeast are out.
all those refineries are offline, etctera.

supply and demand, and all that. and the supply just went WAY THE FUCK DOWN.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:04 PM
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20. Filled up my tank just now....
Had under half a tank, paid $2.94 per gallon, spent $30.05.
Duckie
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:17 PM
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22. Regular went up to $3.05 this morning in my neighborhood
Fortunately, I filled up on Sunday because the price had been constantly rising anyway, even before the hurricane. Now, it's much worse.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:43 PM
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31. Want to know the real truth about where gasoline really comes from?
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 08:50 PM by D__S
The refineries grind and boil down the bones and feathers of small green birds to feed our gas jones.

Bet you didn't know that?


:evilgrin:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:06 PM
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46. I DO know that a grey-headed bird will bite you hard for
making such a disgusting comment.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:19 PM
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47. They use the "grey-headed birds" to manufacture home heating oil.
:smoke:

Bet you didn't know that either/
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:18 PM
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24. Just got back from the gas station. $2.69 for regular unleaded.
I only needed about 1/2 a tank, but who knows what price gas will be next time I need to fill up. :scared:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:46 PM
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44. You paid $2.62
The cheapest I could find when I needed gas today was $2.92. I thought gas was supposed to be cheaper for we country people. :mad:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:04 AM
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67. What a rip-off!
All the major players were at $2.69 in my neighborhood. I didn't drive by any stations this morning though.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:18 PM
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25. Be right back. I was going to start a thread asking whether I should.
But you just made up my mind.

Thanks!
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:19 PM
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26. I have $6 to last until the 5th.
I'd like to gas up (as far as that would get me,) but then I won't have anything.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:35 PM
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30. Booo!
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:45 PM
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32. Last time I checked it was 2.69
When I came home today . . and for whatever reason I didn't even think about filling up . .. I just wanted to get home.

Ugh, I need to double my efforts to find a job . . . otherwise if gas keeps on rising and I can't afford to move in to the city I won't be able to afford to drive to school.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:46 PM
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33. HOLY SHIT! I just got back and it's .15 more than this afternoon AND
it went up while I was standing there.

The KS side of KC is now $3.06 and the woman at the pump next to me said she had just been on the Missouri side and they were at $3.10 - they are ALWAYS lower than the Kansas side. I asked the chick behind the counter and she said they expected $3.75 by the weekend.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:00 PM
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36. PS - $3.06 in Overland Park,KS - ($3.10 in Kansas City, MO)
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:42 AM
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57. Holy Crap! I Can't Believe Gas is Cheaper in California than in KC
I'm from KC, and remember being out here paying $1.25 a gallon when it was .86 at home. It was 2.91 when I topped off the tank tonight (up from 2.69 Sunday).
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:48 PM
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34. Just did
3.29 a gal for premium, 2.99 for 87

My car runs on 91 ideally, but the options were 87, 87, 93. Another way the oil companies fuck people over. No production engine today requires 93, yet I can't drop down to 89. I've tried. Engine ran like absolute shit - and that wasn't even a full tank of the stuff.

Total - 7.65 gallons, 25.03 dollars.
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:02 PM
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37. Filled up this afternoon
gas went up about 35 cents a gal in a few hours today, and some places aren't selling more than 10 gallons/car. Took me three places to find one with the cheap stuff. Now that I have gas, I'm refusing to drive anywhere lol. :P
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:14 PM
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39. whats the difference
sooner or later we will all be paying top dollar
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Clintmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:39 PM
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41. Greekspeak and I just filled up here in Tallahassee.
We got $2.699 per for reg. unleaded. A couple of "Circle K"'s are out of gas completely. (well...I guess they have diesel) I heard it will be $3.20 tomorrow.

Thanks for the heads up, Matcom!
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:42 PM
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42. i filled up when i saw the sign that said "3.39" in town tonight.
i continued my drive home and saw it for 2.89.

DAMN this is price gouging...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:44 PM
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51. wow and it's usually cheaper out there!
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 10:45 PM by tigereye
or is it? It's usually cheaper in Butler County than in the city.

It's 2.60 where I usually go. When I filled up the other day it was 2.55.

Didya see the CBGB thread? :(
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:42 PM
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43. I filled up yesterday.
I used two gallons today, and frankly, I wanted to replace it! I could not, however, see waiting in the gas lines for two gallons. And there were lines at every gas station I passed.

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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:48 PM
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45. I should have gassed up tonight.
Instead, it will be tomorrow morning. :-(

It's just my luck to find the perfect woman... 200 miles away. :cry:
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:38 AM
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56. I'll buy you dinner Friday night.
Even more, I'll buy the movie concessions (talk about pricey :scared: )

:loveya:

p.s. I can't wait to see my present tomorrow night. ;)
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:35 AM
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59. I'm a cheap date.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 04:35 AM by Finnfan
Just buy me a small Diet soda ($9.50), and we'll call it even. :-) :loveya:
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:28 PM
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48. I'm so lazy
As I was leaving work today, one station was 2.99, the other one was 3.05 and in the process of changing as I drove by. I had already considered gassing up on the way home. Yet, I still had 1/4 tank, and I so much hate to be late arriving home, and thus starting my actual life (work and commute not counting as "life") that I put it off until tommorow. It probably was a mistake.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:36 PM
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49. they're already runnin' out of supplies of gas....
...you'll be lucky to buy any at any price soon..stations around here are already out. :nopity:
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 10:54 PM
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52. It's already $3.69 in Chicago!!!!!!!!!!
That was today. Northern burbs it is $3.31. I heard that Chicago has the highest prices in the country. Fuck * What happened to his "OPEN THE SPIGGOTS" line from the debate? Why doesn't anyone call him on all the broken promises from his camapign? :mad:
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:52 PM
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54. This is the worst it's ever been---ever!
Fucking unbelievable. My stomach is turning at these prices. and I thought that prices five weeks ago at $2.27 a gallon were out of control.

Today, the prices in my area where shockingly still averaging about 2.79 a gallon, but I know tomorrow that they'll be up over 3 bucks.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:55 PM
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55. The lines at the stations I drove by were outrageous tonight
Things are going farkin nuts I tell you. :eyes:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:40 AM
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63. The lines were ridiculously long at all the stations
in Marietta, Kennesaw and Woodstock, GA yesterday afternoon. I was not going to sit in line and waste gas just to get gas. So this morning, I left the house at 5:45 a.m. and did not have to sit in any line. Of course, most of the gas stations were closed because they were out of gas. But I got lucky and found one station that was open and had gas. No lines, just three cars at the pumps. But of course, I had to pay $3 a gallon. I had a half tank already. But just to fill up it cost $26.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:00 AM
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58. This so stupid
it will last until the next fill up


and then the next



and the next



next



my god I saved


my next.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:39 AM
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60. My mom is having a picnic and I'm skipping it
That'll be $30 worth of gas driving to it and I'm in conversation mode.

Worse thing is my step-father is going in for 33 radiation treatments and it's over on the West Shore of Harrisburg. What a crappy time for the gas prices to go through the roof!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:11 AM
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64. Perspective: I've lived in countries where gas was consistently
$5 or more per gallon. Places where that's the normal price, across the board. Americans don't know how good they have it -- particularly unfortunate because this insulated petrochemical ethnocentrism is key to the rise of atrocities like the Hummer and other superfluous SUVs. Heck, my Brittanic brethren would probably love to get hold of petrol as cheap as $5 a gallon.

I also ride a motorcycle so, although I balked at the $2.79 per gallon that I just paid tonight, the cost of my six-gallon-capacity tank is not so bad when you consider that it covers a week's worth of commuting. So, in short, I could thumb my nose at y'all by virtue of my being conveyed rapidly about the landscape on a vehicle far more economical than pretty much any car but the Prius (we pay in lots of other ways, not least of which is the tendency of oblivious car drivers to try to kill us at every turn) and because I am contemptuous of Amewicans whining abowt dere widdle wawwets being hit so hard by gas prices still the envy of much of the rest of the world.

But the reality is that I'm pretty disturbed by all of this because, apart from the immediate economic effect and the prospect of walking to and from work each day when and if the gas supply bottoms out (I love to walk, but my job's draining enough that the six or seven miles each way is hardly optimal, especially in the current heat), there's too likely to be Bad Stuff associated with this rapid price increase. People go crazy enough in this violent country without adding further provocation...and, again, I reference the heat still rather obvious in most parts of the country. And then there's the whole Bush-oil thing. It's not good. It sucks.

The only positive I can think of? Pretty simple: suffer, you Hummer-owning f***wits...
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:32 AM
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65. i have lived in one of those countries too. ONE HUGE DIFFERENCE
all of those countries (Germany in my case) have incredible PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

frankly, you rarely NEED a car. hell you can buy a euro-pass and travel the entire continent practically via public rail.

the europeans have done it right. we, have done it completely ass backwards and have created a society that is 90% dependent on big oil and PRIVATE transportation. you have an excellent point but lets try and compare apples to apples.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:57 AM
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66. Not disputing that these prices are terrible,
just that it's not the end of the world as we know it. And, yeah, MOST other countries have better public transportation. Not all, but most...certainly most of the 'developed' nations.

There's no valid reason that US cities and regional clusters of cities and towns couldn't have the same. The whole dismantling of the Los Angeles public transit system back at the start of the autombile's rise, to name one instance, is a fascinating piece of history that indicates beyond any doubt that the dependence of America on private car traffic was the wholly intentional result of a particularly cynical conspiracy. There have been other options for the US but the people who own the place decided to play it, for now, another (more harmful, but more profitable) way. It'll change for the better only when it suits them.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:39 AM
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68. $2.55 near Pittsburgh
Up 8 cents since Sunday. Not too bad, all things considered.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:25 AM
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70. Gov Easley's statement 8?31
Gov Easley issued a statement last night about conserving gas and eliminating unnecessary trips, including Labor Day travel.

I have to get gas today; I'm down to 1/4 of a tank. I'm going to try to get it at Costco. But since I got laid off, I haven't driven that much anyway. A tankfull is lasting me about 1 and 2/3 weeks.

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THE TWO MAJOR PIPELINES THAT FURNISH GASOLINE TO MANY STATES, INCLUDING NORTH CAROLINA, HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY HURRICANE KATRINA AND ARE CURRENTLY WITHOUT ELECTRICITY. THEY SERVICE NORTH CAROLINA AND 8-10 OTHER STATES.

90 PERCENT OF OUR GAS COMES FROM THESE PIPELINES AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT OPERATIONAL.

SUPPLIERS GENERALLY HAVE A WEEK OR SO OF SUPPLY. THEY HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN SINCE THE HURRICANE.

THE PIPELINES NEED ELECTRIC SUPPLY AND THE REFINERIES THAT PRODUCE GASOLINE NEED TO MAKE URGENT REPAIRS ALSO ARE WITHOUT ELECTRICITY. THE REFINERIES THAT PRODUCE GASOLINE NEED TO MAKE URGENT REPAIRS.

CONSEQUENTLY, WE DO NOT KNOW THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFCANT LOSS OF GASOLINE IN THE SOUTHEAST, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM UNTIL THE ELECTRICITY IS RESTORED.

THIS IS NOT ONLY A STATE PROBLEM, THIS IS ALSO A REGIONAL AND A NATIONAL PROBLEM. WE ARE HOPING THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY WILL TAKE SOME ACTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I HAVE TRIED TO GET DIRECTION FROM DOE BUT THEY HAVE NOT YET RESPONDED.

IN THE MEANTIME, I AM ASKING ALL NORTH CAROLINIANS TO CONSERVE GAS. SOME STATIONS ARE ALREADY OUT. WAIT FOR MORE INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING LABOR DAY TRAVEL PLANS.

WE ARE TAKING STEPS TO ENSURE THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES HAVE THE SUPPLIES THAT THEY NEED, POLICE, FIRE AND RESCUE.

I AM IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDING ALL NON-ESSENTIAL STATE GOVERNMENT TRAVEL. I AM ASKING STATE EMPLOYEES TO CARPOOL WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

I AM ALSO ASKING ALL OUR CITIZENS TO BE SMART ABOUT THEIR FUEL CONSUMPTION.

I AM ASKING THEM TO CARPOOL IF THEY CAN AND TO LIMIT NON-ESSENTIAL ROAD TRIPS.

WE ARE NOT OUT OF GAS, BUT WE ARE RUNNING LOW.

WE MUST TAKE STEPS TO CONSERVE OUR RESOURCES WHILE WE LEARN THE FULL EXTENT OF THE PROBLEMS AND WHILE WASHINGTON WORKS TOWARD A REGIONAL AND NATIONAL STRATEGY.

WITH CAREFUL USE OF PRECIOUS FUEL, CONSUMERS CAN HELP US WEATHER THIS LATEST STORM.

NORTH CAROLINA UNDERSTANDS HURRICANES. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THEM AND WE KNOW THAT WE WILL WEATHER THIS ONE AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. WE KNOW THEY CAUSE DISTRUPTION. WE JUST NEED TO KNOW AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND PLAN.



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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:30 AM
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71. Went up 54 cents in four hours on LI yesterday
My husband bought gas for his car on the way to work for $2.75 yesterday-I went at nnon to top off the tank and it was $3.49.
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