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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:46 PM
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Bush quote... "No one foresaw the levees breaking" ??? WTF?
Every disaster plan for anywhere with levees takes that into account.

Even in something like this where he is NOT to blame, he lives in bizzaro world.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:54 PM
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1. Well, no one except scientists and engineers
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 06:55 PM by miss_kitty
'Washing Away,' a major investigative series from 2002 examining the implications of a hurricane like Katrina hitting New Orleans.
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/


Thursday, September 1st, 2005
The Drowning of New Orleans: Hurricane Devastation Was Predicted
Democracy Now!
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/01/146259

Are these are the same 'No ones' who did not forsee the world Trade Center being slammed into by airplanes.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:03 PM
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4. I think it was Popular Mechanics in the 9/11/2001 issue
there was a thread about it here yesterday, about how fscked NOLA would be if a Cat 5 hit it and the levees broke.

Yeah, nobody predicted this shit. Especially no engineers with fscking PhDs... :sarcasm:
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:10 PM
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8. Scientific American did too
but it was a subscribe site-and I hate clicking on links and finding that, so I don't post them

Here's something about levees blowing in 1927
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/flood/filmmore/fd.html

oooh and something from that DANGEROUS SUBVERSIVE, Bill Moyers from 9.20.02 on his left wing news show, 'Now'
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_neworleans.html
---snip---
"...DANIEL ZWERDLING: Suhayda studies hurricanes. And he's brought me to the French Quarter to show what could happen if the most powerful kind of hurricane hits New Orleans.

JOE SUHAYDA: So this indicates the depth of water that would occur above this ground in a category five hurricane.

DANIEL ZWERDLING: It's hard to comprehend, really.

JOE SUHAYDA: It is really, to think that that much water would occur during this catastrophic storm.

DANIEL ZWERDLING: So basically the part of New Orleans that most people in the United States and around the world think of as New Orleans would disappear under water.

JOE SUHAYDA:: That's right. During the worst of the storm, most of this area would be covered by 15 to 20 feet of water.

DANIEL ZWERDLING: Do you expect this kind of hurricane and this kind of flooding to hit New Orleans in our lifetime?

JOE SUHUYDA: Well, there-- I would say the probability is yes..."

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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:31 PM
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14. Holy shit... I REMEMBER THAT SHOW
now that you mention it, I remember seeing that, and thinking how fscked NOLA would be if we had a hurricane like that. OMG. :wow:
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:08 PM
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17. obviously Chertoff's POS cousin or whoever he is
didn't write THAT one....
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:00 PM
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2. Homeland Security never foresaw a terrorist
blowing up a levee to flood the city? They knew they would only stand up to a category 3 hurricane and they saw a category 5 heading straight to NOLA for at least a day in advance and no body foresaw it. Where in the hell are all these plans Homeland Security made to respond to a terrorist attack on a US city apparently all they did was work on that stupid color code. This is the President that was going to keep us safe!!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:02 PM
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3. Only, you know, the experts. But he doesn't listen to *those* idiots. nt
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:16 PM
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5. That's a bit like saying
'No one foresaw that my arse might need wiping after a B.M.'

If I were in a responsible position of government, I'd be ashamed to utter any words in public that implied, - especially in the instance of contradictory evidence, - that I hadn't the foresight to foresee the rather obvious and inevitable with all it's catastrophic consequence.

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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:43 PM
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6. What a metaphor
for the Rovian news media and other apologists for tis maladministration. Those levees are bursting at the seams. and Bush and his cronies are going to be up to their asses in alligators saying "WAAAAA- who knew the levees would break!"

Well, I can wish, can't I?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:46 PM
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7. I was going to say something snarky mentioning Led Zeppelin.
But I won't.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:18 PM
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9. and no one could have imagined.....
hijacking a plane and flying it into the world trade center...

sound familiar?
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:25 PM
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10. Same shit different year!
God I hate these assclowns. :argh:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:27 PM
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11. That's dumb
I even saw a program on what a Cat 5 storm could do to New Orleans a few days ago (I'm assuming it was produced awhile ago) that addressed the levee problem. People obviously knew about this before.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:32 PM
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15. I know, I saw it on Bill Moyers
Jesus H Christ on a trailer hitch, *I* even knew about it, and I don't know shit!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:29 PM
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12. On NPR tonight, they had a guy from some federally
funded organization talking about the co9ntingency plans they worked up back in the 1990's about a cat 4 Hurricane Called "Pam".....

Devestated NOLA
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:30 PM
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13. Just take into consideration the source!!!
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:35 PM
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16. The man is an idiot
I mean, I used to think he was just willfully ignorant, but have come to realize that, nope-he's just stupid.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:59 AM
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18. It didn't have to happen!
If monies hadn't been diverted away from the work that was needed 2 years ago to pay for a war that no one needs!

Will Pitt started a thread over in GD about this topic a few days ago ... but without the 'advanced search feature' ... I can't provide a link to archived topics ...
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:00 AM
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19. and no one could have imagined using airplanes as weapons! (nt)
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 08:02 AM
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20. Aaron Brown mentioned that last night when the military guy
said something like no one fathomed it would be this bad.

Brown said, well, that's ridiculous, because they were talking about it 3 years ago.
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