How do you react when someone says "I voted for Bush, but now I regret it"

[RagingInMiami]

I've heard that a few times since November, and once since Katrina.

I always tell them that I have no sympathy for them, that they have blood on their hands. And I tell them to shut the fuck up before I get even more mad. Then I call them dumb motherfucking idiots.

I'm much more sympathetic to those who voted for the shrub in 2000 but then got smart in 2004.

[crispini]

1. Harsh, dude!

I'd extol the virtues of the Democrats and tell them they need to atone for their sins by voting Dem for a looooong time in the future.

[philosophie_en_rose]

2. Mixed feelings.

On the one hand, I sort of want to rub it in. It depends on the level of freepishness, but some Bush supporters were so smug about "moral superiority" and that kind of garbage.

On the other, we're all suffering because of their stupidity.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

3. A little harsh, no? n/t

[Crazy Guggenheim]

4. Just remind them of "why" they voted for * in the first place.

:applause: :nopity:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

5. I'd LOVE to hear that. But I'm not. This country desperately needs

to get out from the grip of these people. If it means that some who were so dumb as to require this kind of calamity to wake up, wake up, then so be it.

I might curse them for inflicting shrubco on us, but I wouldn't do it to their face. I'd be all, "Welcome to reality."

Instead, I'm seeing mostly people who are so deluded that even WITH a calamity like this, they still want to believe anything else than their hero is a worthless idiot.

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. well, you do your name proud!

I talked to some co-workers who did not regret voting for Bush. They said, "I didn't want to vote for Bush, but he was a better choice than Kerry." I did your name proud.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

7. Sounds like the counterpart of ABB to me.

:popcorn:

[tjdee]

8. Someone said that to me today.

I was with an older man today waiting in line and watching the FOX the employees left on for us ( :grr: ). He was moving around a lot and making a lot of hmmphs under his breath. When one of the guests on FOX said "This is not the president's fault", he said very loudly "YES IT IS! IT IS BUSH'S FAULT."

He said a lot of the things we were saying, and I chimed in with the info about the Army Corp of Engineers, and he said "And Cheney's still on vacation..."

And then he said "I can't believe I voted for this guy. I voted for this guy and my wife wouldn't let me forget it. I'm so embarrassed that I voted for this guy."

He seemed very upset.

What can I say. I'm embarrassed he voted for Bush too.

[crispini]

20. Bless him

for knowing enough to know he made a mistake.

[xmas74]

9. Haven't seen you in awhile.

But I've been limited in my time lately. How are you?

[RagingInMiami]

11. I am fuming

Words cannot describe how pissed off I am right now. I had taken a break from DU because I was focusing on building a media business where I'm going to write articles and take photos for magazines and corporations.

I had placed my frustrations with the bush administration on hold after realizing that most people in this country are still asleep.

But this katrina thing pulled me back into DU. Katrina roared through Miami just over a week ago as a category one hurricane. She knocked down powerlines, traffic lights and trees. I was without power for five days.
And eleven people down here died.

And that was a much-weaker Katrina. (80 mph winds instead of 145 mph winds)

When Katrina started gaining power in the gulf of Mexico and headed for New Orleans, all of us in Miami knew disaster was looming. I was here for Hurricane Andrew in 1992 and it was hell -- but not nearly as bad as what is going on in New Orleans now.

Our government allowed those people to die and I am furious about it. And that is why when I hear someone say "I voted for bush but now I regret it", I want to just bash their head in.

[xmas74]

14. I had a simliar convo w/ someone recently.

I just walked away.

[IntravenousDemilo]

10. How about this?

Tell them it's not too late to make it right. They can still vote in 2006 for Democrats who will impeach Spurious George's ass, and Dickwad's too.

[RagingInMiami]

12. Or maybe something like

"Just don't ever vote again. You obviously can't make an informed decision"

[AussieDave]

35. Excellent suggestion - this can go some way towards

making amends, but the damage has largely been done. I don't think impeachment will ever happen, but at least if the Dems can get control of at least one House of Congress, then the hearings that would follow would trash *'s reputation and his "legacy".

[Omphaloskepsis]

13. We don't have Republicans in this town..

OK, maybe a few. They just don't talk.

[RagingInMiami]

15. I live down here in Miami

In a Cuban neighborhood where a large percentage of them voted for bush and drive around with "Viva Bush" stickers because they are under the impression that the idiot will be stronger against Castro.

Ignorant fuckers.

[Omphaloskepsis]

18. Yikes.. Good luck with that.

My neighbor had a huge Bush 04' banner on his fence a few months ago. Now he has a new fence. Someone burned the old one down. I didn't see much W shit before the election.

P.S. I don't condone burning peoples shit.

[Splatter Phoenix]

26. Oh, man.

I love your PS.

Sadly, sometimes arson is the only way to get your point across. v_V burning of flags, for example.

--But then again, I'd buy the flag myself, so I'd be burning MY shit.

[Splatter Phoenix]

17. I want to move in with you.

Here it's almost exactly the opposite.

[Omphaloskepsis]

21. I don't know how you deal with that shit..

I have a spare air mattress. And lots of Raman, rice, and Vita Juice.

[Splatter Phoenix]

25. Seriously. X_X

Conversation in Chem class:

Boy: George Bush is a Christian. That means he's good.
Me: No it doesn't. He denied relief aid for--
Boy: This country was FOUNDED on Christian beliefs!
Me: ...uh...no it wasn't. Hence the current seperation of church and state to protect minority religions from--
Boy: One nation under god!
Me: That was ADDED during the commie scare of the fifties!
Boy: ONE NATION UNDER GOD!
Me: Do your damned equations, asshole.

[Omphaloskepsis]

27. I wish I had that kind of smarts in my chem classes..

I take it that guy doesn't set the curve?

P.S. I fucking hate Chemistry.. I hope you are going to be a nurse (not a chemist).. Really, chemistry sucks.. And I rock at math.. And I hate the shit that is chemistry.

[Splatter Phoenix]

28. Ha ha! I don't like bodily fluids...

So I'm going to be a librarian. So many hoops the public school systems force you to jump through before they let you have some kibbles...A PUBLIC librarian, too, so I need a library science degree.

Really. Library science. Paaahthetic.

And no, he doesn't set the curve, he drags it down. And sits right next to me while doing it. X_X

Chemistry does suck, but I also happen to be mathematically retarded. XD Double blow.

[Omphaloskepsis]

31. Did you pick chem for your general science ed?

Damn, that is why they invented astronomy.. Rocks for jocks..

[Splatter Phoenix]

33. Oh, I should've taken Astronomy...

But I had to take Chem, technically I was supposed to last year--I'd taken Marine Biology, hoping to dodge the bullet, but unfortunately when we moved, I'd only ended up delaying the bullet for a year. x_x

[sundog]

16. they're all drawing in their horns right now

they are ashamed of themselves & their emperor... i can totally sense that vibe

[GOPBasher]

19. I WANT to react that way, but I try to maintain my composure

and just give the a reasoned argument why they should vote Dem next time. This will win converts better than being rude.

But I know what you mean, because I certainly WANT to react like that. :-)

[terrya]

22. "Welcome to the smart people's world! You'll enjoy it here!"

[Left Is Write]

23. I don't know. I haven't heard it.

At least...I haven't heard it from anyone who voted Bush in '04.

I am close to two people who voted Bush in 2000, deeply regretted it, and both voted Kerry in '04.

Edited to add that at least one of those two people believes strongly that Bush should be impeached.

[BamaGirl]

24. Funny you should ask

I just came from the day at my best friend's house, and she is out for *'s blood. She voted for him, but she regrets the hell out of it now. I almost said something, but then she told me (STAUNCH rep.) that she will never vote for another rep. She's pissed about the way aid has been handled, and she suddenly has a much much clearer view of where the lines of poverty and race are drawn in the South. In short, she's had an epiphany, and I didn't want to rub it in. She also told me that the people she works with are really pissed at * too, and we live in a very * loving county.

[RagingInMiami]

30. I'm glad they're having their epiphany

But I still blame them for what is going on right now. And I have no problem letting them know how I feel.

One of the problems with the dems, I've noticed when I volunteered for Kerry last year, is that we rely too much on the "turn the other cheek" mentality. It's self-defeating because we're up against self-absorbed people who believe they are righteous.

I can forgive them for 2000, but there is no way in hell I will forgive them for voting for him in 2004.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

32. You hit that one right on the head!

One of the problems with the dems, I've noticed when I volunteered for Kerry last year, is that we rely too much on the "turn the other cheek" mentality. It's self-defeating because we're up against self-absorbed people who believe they are righteous.

[BamaGirl]

40. I agree and normally

I am not a turn the other cheek kind of Democrat. But it has finally sunk with her exactly how little we mean to Rep leadership, so I left it alone.

[Ladyhawk]

50. Good. :)

I've changed my mind about how to treat 2004 Bush voters who repent. We need their help. We should welcom them with open arms.

*note* All posts written under the influence of too much Vicodin until further notice.

[BamaGirl]

65. Lol, pass that this way if you don't mind

I think quite a few of them are going to repent here. Maybe enough to actually give us some power in my county. My momma always taught me that "I told you so" is tacky so I'm trying to keep that in mind lol. It's hard work. ;)

[liberaltrucker]

62. Cullman County?

Just a guess. I live in Walker and it's just a * loving. On edit-Oops reply was meant for post 24. Long day:dunce:

[BamaGirl]

64. Where the heck is that? Lol

Dothan, Houston Co, way on the other end of the state, right? They are some * loving idiots down here. :eyes:

[liberaltrucker]

66. OMG

You're in my prayers:cry:

[BamaGirl]

68. Did I miss something?

I know it's bad (Dothan), but it's not completely without hope lol!

[liberaltrucker]

72. Just trying to lighten things up a bit

Shoulda used a different smiley, I guess. Been using that one a lot lately. AL may just get, if not blue, at least purple. Worth celebrating, IMHO:woohoo:

[BamaGirl]

74. I figured lol ;)

Believe me, I feel that way about this city and county quite often.

Bama may very well go purple after this. We can hope and work and see what we end up with at least.

[edbermac]

29. Tell them to vote for his impeachment

:kick:

[Arkana]

34. I ask them why they voted for Chimpy

and when they tell me, I ask them why they didn't vote Kerry. When they tell me, I tell them his actual position on the offending issue (which, 99% of the time, is completely opposite to what the Bushite thinks), and then they walk away smarter.

Then again, I live in MA, so we don't get as many of those Bushistas with hot sauce on them.

[youthere]

36. I tell them "I regret that you voted for Bush too"..

and I leave it at that.

[JohnnyBoots]

37. pragmaticaly, we need to be nice and bring them into the tent. Don't

be a dick just cause you're pissed off. We all are, recruiting them will lead to much happier days.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

39. It doesn't make any difference how you treat them. They'll make

up their own mind regardless. No more turning the other cheek!

[JohnnyBoots]

41. Great idea, all those looking to leave the GOP and look into

voting for a Democrat; just tell them to go fuck themselves....it won't make a difference at all. What the fuck planet do you live on?

[Crazy Guggenheim]

43. Planet Earth. They are look to us to fix their problems AGAIN!

Let's try this again! Reaching out did not help in any of the recent elections!
It's called being real! They think we are weak! So let's show them otherwise!

[JohnnyBoots]

44. Go Brush 'Yer Face.....you have no idea what you are talking about

[Crazy Guggenheim]

77. Oh I forgot. The Democrats only talk to each other that way.

Hmmmmm.

[RagingInMiami]

57. I tell them to go fuck themselves

Fuck them. There are too many dead people as a result of this administration to just blow it off and forgive those who voted for him.

I tell them to fuck off, and if they have a problem with that, we'll step it up a notch. I'm one angry democrat right now and I'm not afraid to speak my mind.

Your attitude is what I'm talking about. The soft ass liberal. It's time we take a page from their playbook and tell them, "you're either with us or against us."

If they want to leave the GOP and become democrat, that's great, but they better keep it to themselves because they're not going to get any sympathy -- or forgiveness -- from me.

Where were they when this country needed them the most back in November?
Voting for morals? For tax breaks? Voting for the shrub because he made them feel safer?

Fuck every single one of them.

[Ladyhawk]

51. Yes it does make a difference how we treat them.

My liberal profs in college treated me very well and probably had a lot to do with my eventual conversion.

*note* All posts written under the influence of too much Vicodin until further notice.

[bridgit]

38. i say, "well i tried to tell'ya DUMB-ASS!!"

:nopity: "why don't you fucking listen next time, sheesh!"

[AlienGirl]

42. I welcome them to the real world. nt

[samplegirl]

45. I'd much rather hear that

than have people you know regret it but wont admit
they voted for a Dumb ass. There pride stands in
the way so they contiune to try to back Bush or
make excuse for him.

[carpetbagger]

46. I say welcome aboard. n/t

[Crazy Guggenheim]

47. I actually say that too, but I see nothing wrong with "kidding them"

a little.

[JohnnyBoots]

52. Way to be!

[hyphenate]

48. I'm afraid I'm more bitter

than anything. I essentially tell the person with some irony that they should have thought of that a year ago.

It's partly because people have been fooled. Rove and his spin machine were in full gear last year before the election, and John Kerry didn't fight back as much as he should have. If it weren't for the spin machine, there would have been no fucking way that the moron would have been put back in office.

Let's face it: this country is filled with gullible people, and if they paid attention and really cared, we wouldn't be in the fucking mess we're in now.

[Ladyhawk]

53. True, but we need the help of those who repent. n/t

[Ladyhawk]

49. I voted for shrub in 2000. I made a huge mistake and I'm very sorry. :(

I say welcome anyone who wises up. I used to feel the same way you do, but then I realized it was hypocritical since I voted for the bastard in 2000.

We're going to need every person who wakes up. I'm trying to soften my heart a bit. It's pretty fucking hard when I look at what's happening in New Orleans, but I am still trying. I nearly vented my frustrations at my Bush-voting voice teacher, but decided that wouldn't help me or him. :shrug:

*note* All posts written under the influence of too much Vicodin until further notice.

[BlueIris]

54. That's my approach. Only now, the "welcome"

is a little less welcome than it used to be. Nod, smile, change the subject/walk away. Lecturing them about it is not my job. Nor is judging, really, I guess. I'm just happy some people ARE wising up--it SHOULD be possible.

[Ladyhawk]

55. It is, but we are getting down to the hard core * supporters, now.

The remaining folk will be harder to convince. I wish that they didn't need to hang onto their dogma, but some of them do. It's the only thing that gives their lives structure and to admit they are wrong might cause their whole world view to cave.

They should still follow the truth wherever it might lead. It's painful, but necessary.

*note* All posts written under the influence of too much Vicodin until further notice.

[RagingInMiami]

56. I have friends like you

Who became the most vocal Kerry supporters. They are in the military and voted for bush in 2000 because they thought they were voting in their best interest.

And let's face it. Most of us knew he was an idiot before 2000. I don't think most of us knew he was a raging psychopath.

[LisaL]

58. Tell them they are too little, too late.

[sakabatou]

59. I would have no sympathy for them

But I'd be glad that they're not drinking the kool-aid.

[gizmo1979]

60. slap them silly.

[drfresh]

61. Er, way to welcome them to the light

We need all the new Democratic voters that we can get. Be accomodating..

[RagingInMiami]

71. Fuck them

I'm not a soft-assed liberal. If they couldn't see the light before Nov. 2004, why should they see it now.

I'm goddamn sick and tired of the dems being pansies.

[liberaltrucker]

63. If it's a fellow trucker

I just say "you must LOVE these fuel prices". Shuts 'em up real quick:evilgrin: :nopity:

[VelmaD]

67. You're too nice...

for having sympathy for the ones who voted for shrub back in 2000. As far as I'm concerned anyone who ever voted for him for anything is an idiot.

[stlsaxman]

69. Tell them "Welcome- to the Real World!"

why oh why didn't i take the BLUE pill?

[MrScorpio]

70. Bienvenidos a mi mundo, Baby

That's all I have to say

[Robb]

73. They've never gotten past "I voted for Bush..."

...before getting whacked with a fish.

[bliss_eternal]

75. I told someone that I forgave them.

They laughed and then sighed. I don't know if they have forgiven themselves, yet.

:eyes:

[bliss_eternal]

76. OMG---I just read what you say to them--that's great!

:loveya:

Maybe harsh, as some here have said, but seriously they need to hear it! They MUST be held accountable, right?

[NMMNG]

78. "You reap what you sow"

"We've been reaping what you sowed (and paying the price) for five years now. I'm glad you're seeing the error of your ways now but I'm afraid it's a mite too late for it to do any good"

[ismnotwasm]

79. I just tell them that it's easy to be manipulated

When you rely on cable TV for facts. I tell them uninformed opinions "Has created a nation of destructive uninformed zombie voters" It's less directly personal, but gets the point across.

[ashling]

80. way to influence people

and where does that get you exactly? Blood or not, we want these folks to vote Dem even AFTER these neocons are floated down the river.

[RagingInMiami]

81. Where does that get me exactly?

A moment to voice my frustrations and let them know just how badly they fucked up.

I'm through with "recruitment" efforts. I maxed out on that during the months leading to the election.

You can be as soft and as forgiven and understanding as you'd like. We are the party of pansies, after all.

But it's going to be a long time before I will forgive anybody who voted for bush in 2004. A very long time.