Why do I get ignored in GD?

[xmas74]

Whenever I offer something that actually might contribute w/o snark why does it get ignored in GD?
Just wondering.

[philosophie_en_rose]

1. Do you say anything extreme?

Vaguely insulting? Suspiciously flattering to Simian Presidents?


I think there's a snark requirement. :)

[xmas74]

3. I think there is too.

I offered a small solution to the housing situation. Of course, it did bring up small towns and churches-two things that GD does not like.
No insults, no comments either way about the Chimp. Just a small solution for families that I have heard of a few churches mention recently.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

2. It's extremely busy now and most threads, even good ones, go away

quick.

[xmas74]

4. I made a response in a thread full of snark.

I didn't make any snarky comments. I guess I should have to have received some attention.

[philosophie_en_rose]

7. You have to learn to swim with the snarks.

:)

It's really hard sometimes to post and not get a response. But just because no one posted, doesn't mean that people weren't reading and appreciating what you might have had to say.

I mostly don't read GD, so I'm not sure what the comment was. However, people are especially angry right now. Snark and criticism are part of venting those feelings of helplessness and anger that naturally result from the utter failures in the South right now.

[xmas74]

8. I know.

But it is something that drives me crazy over there. I've gone in, posted snark and had a ton of replies. I've gone in and replied w/ an actual thought(since you know how much they love the Lounge) and it gets ignored.
Oh well. Instead of snarking around, I'm writing letters to some small towns around my area and the local churches w/ my idea. We'll see how it goes.

[philosophie_en_rose]

9. Well, count yourself as lucky.

I get ignored for snark. :)

[xmas74]

10. I don't get ignored.

They'll ask me why I left the Lounge.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4611884&mesg_id=4613853

That was my comment. I wish someone else could come up w/ something better but it might be a start.

[Ladyhawk]

46. True. I get ignored a lot. It's just the way things are on this forum.

Too many people with too many agendas.

*note* All posts written under the influence of too much Vicodin until further notice.

[Deja Q]

5. I get ignored all the time in GD. It happens to many, perhaps?

And my posts offer a bit more detail and links than the one-line throwaway shit that seems to attract everybody under the sun.

So, either live with DU as an enjoyable waste of time or leave.

I've made my choice...

:hide:

[xmas74]

6. I have too.

I just don't like how sometimes I get treated like a "Lounge Lizard" over there. I made a good point. Everyone else just snarked.
Sometimes I wonder why I even post there.

[henslee]

42. Me too. And I just dont give a shit. I write for meeeee...... wee-heeee.

[khashka]

11. Right now things are kinda busy

and everybody is being ignored to some greater or lesser extent.
(I avoid GD, who needs the fucking hassle?)

Also if you say something truthful or insightful, there's not much to say in response. I find, if I'm thoughtful, it fades in silence. When I am vicious, cruel, angry, nasty, bitchy - I get a response.


Sometimes no response is the best response... it doesn't mean people are ignoring you, it means they are thinking about what you said.

But if you really want a response - do what I do: be a bitch. Always gets a response and it is oh so satisfying!

Khash, obviously a bad man.

[xmas74]

12. Did you read the response that I sent you?

It would be a good start for housing and beneficial for all.

[khashka]

21. Yep and it's not a bad idea

Have you read Bucky Fuller's "Critical Path"? There's a lot of weird stuff... but he talks about housing, food, energy and how easy it would be to provide that almost free of charge. The only thing that gets in the way is politics.

It's why I'm an anarchist. Mostly liberal , but politics seem to get in the way of solving anything.

As for the rest of your response... your name... I'm an inveterate mangler of names. I like your name. And the diminutive of it... it just suits you. It's just right :)

Khash.

[xmas74]

22. Thank you on both counts.

Housing-wise: I can think of a small town that I used to live in about an hour from me. The residents are mostly seniors. As some have died their relatives have inherited. The relatives lived sometimes a few states away. They'd put the house up on the market. It didn't sell since it was a small town w/o many services there. Eventually, the city would claim the house b/c of years of back taxes. I think of this town because they owned almost one hundred houses for that reason. Some only one bedroom, some five bedrooms. And they sit vacant.
The city has offered, in the past, a rent-to-own program for anyone interested in any of these homes. Sale price is very reasonable, no down payment, just basic maintenance(which we have programs in the area that will assist w/ maintenance for low-income homeowners). If they thought about it, they could do a similar offer for the evacuees as a one-year lease w/ an option to buy at a later date. Some would choose to leave at a later date, others would decide to stay behind knowing that they could actually own their own home(which they might not be able to do in a large city).
Churches would gather together(since they do that in small towns-ministerial alliance), get supplies that were needed, and send down buses to bring the families to their towns.
Small solution, but better for many families than living in a "refugee camp".

[bridgit]

13. you fully have to expect that, it's what they do the very vest...

:thumbsup: just lay your own, heart felt opinion out there & then it's all que sera, sera...

[xmas74]

14. We've both been through it a few times.

I just wish that some would actually come up w/ solutions instead of gripe.

[bridgit]

16. well, "griping" is what they really-really do the very-very best...

:rofl: :kick: but boy do i hear you, xmas74

[xmas74]

17. I just like to brainstorm for solutions.

I have time to gripe later. Right now, people need some workable solutions.

[bridgit]

19. agreed, there's too much drift & the opposition...

is going to show up for election 2006 whether we care for them to, or not. at the risk of being cast as eternally self-marginalized, we can't be seen this time around (which i thought after 2000 would NEVER happen again) bickering amongst ourselves over what is already painfully obvious...imo of course :thumbsup:

impeach the wannbe boy-king-ceasar: g.w. bush

[xmas74]

23. We need to form a plan and stick to it.

No arguing,no bickering or we will never get anywhere.

[WCGreen]

15. What did you say......

Really I know what you mean about GD threads...

Jesus H. Christ, durrung times like these, you have to offer EXTREME stuff to get notice...

So drink yer Mountain Dew....

Grab you board and plunge back in....

BTW, I'm an athiest, or rather agnostic, depending on the day of the week, and I think churches offer the best real time solution to the housing problem....

[xmas74]

18. You know I am a smalltown girl.

And, since the Fed govt isn't doing it's job, I thought maybe some people in small towns could help out (more than anyone would ever think).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4611884&mesg_id=4613853

[xmas74]

25. I see they locked the thread.

[sundog]

20. that place moves fast, don't take it personally

i've been in there all week, posting a lot... i rarely get a response...

but i have to post there because i have a lot of steam & sadness to vent

hey xmas :hi:

[xmas74]

24. How are you?

[terrya]

26. Exactly. And don't let GD intimidate you.

It's moving very fast the past few days.

Make you voice heard. Express your opinions and offer your thinking (but please, asking as a soon to be ex-moderator, do so within the rules)

I'm not addressing this to you, sundog. Just to everyone here in general.

:hi: sundog

[wildeyed]

27. That is so funny

'cause I always wonder why I get ignored in the Lounge.

I thought you had a good response. I didn't read the rest of the thread. Sometimes when a thread gets contentious and convoluted, new replies get ignored. The original posters are caught up in their little flame fests and no one else has the patience to read through all the responses, so no replies get posted.

[xmas74]

29. I don't ignore anyone in the Lounge.

Thank you for saying I had a good response. I like to be silly most of the time (and I've participated in a kitten thread before).
It's hard for me to explain but a topic that I am passionate about is what seems to be the imminent death of small towns and how to remedy their demise. To me, the solution might be small but seems to be a perfect fit for all sides. It gives people a real home and a sense of community. It gives the small towns an opportunity to attract new people (and maybe even retain them since it could be years before they could return), earn more tax money, keep their schools and land in better repair. It takes away the indecision from the Fed govt(since they've been rather lax lately-to put it mildly) and gives some of it to people who want to do something RIGHT NOW-not later.
I've been to churches where the older women talk about not hearing any babies cry during services. They realize their lives are ending and there is no one there to pick up what is left behind(not in a negative way, either). They'd gladly welcome someone of any color from the Gulf. They would take care of them, since the govt isn't.

[In_The_Wind]

28. maybe ... you are too nice ...

just sayin'

[xmas74]

30. I should have told them to shut the f*ck up and listen.

[In_The_Wind]

32. now THAT they would understand ...

no kidd gloves over there most of the time ... I'm always surprised when I get an answer. Sometimes after I read what's been said back to me ... I go for a walk and a smoke before jumping back into GD.

I've also found the same attitude in LBN.

[xmas74]

33. I won't even go into LBN.

I've been burned there too many times.

[In_The_Wind]

38. Maybe I'm brave or stupid because I dive back into both ...

rarely, but I do go there when I feel like going toe to toe on DU.
I feel there is hostility in the attitude of the answers ... like ... maybe - I'm to blame for the problems being discussed.

but I do venture into LBN more often than GD ...

[xmas74]

40. I feel like that too.

[graywarrior]

31. Because Xmas comes but once a year?

Take that anyway you want.

[xmas74]

34. I was there before!

And I can take that quite a few ways-but one of them will get this locked (and is quite untrue!)

[samplegirl]

35. its easier to Post in the Lounge

i think its more laid back and less tense. I think people tend to
forget we all are in D.U. because even though we have differnt views
on things....we all have one thing in common we know Bush is a miserable failure.

[xmas74]

36. That would be one of the few things that everyone on

here agrees on.

[HEyHEY]

37. Because you haven't done something that can get you insulted

That's the only time they respond...when they can insult you

[xmas74]

39. That would be true.

I tend to be too nice. I like to come up w/ solutions instead of just gripe.
I figure that I already know who to blame. Why do that right now? Instead, it's time to put our heads together to find small solutions that can be easily implemented w/o fed govt assistance. Later,once everyone is safe, we will have time to blame.

[IChing]

44. I read your posts, and that thread was hardly biting as some that I

have experienced here in the lounge

Just kidding,
you had sensible solutions in your thread
just make those churches what your jesus
died for, and fought for
the poor
the forgotten,
the poor of spirt,

and make them radical progressive democrats that you are.

being the rebel rouser that I am,
I like that about you.

[xmas74]

45. Thank you.

I just like to find solutions. That's why I joined DU in the first place. It wasn't to bitch-it was to unite and find solutions to problems.
I thought it was a workable solution. I know that many on DU do not like churches but I've found that most(read Mainline) do offer some of the best services and will do so w/o expecting you to join. They do it out of the kindness of their hearts and for no other reason. Small town churches are especially good at that. They band together to help out fellow community members. I've been to a few hog roasts at a Baptist church for someone who attends the Lutheran or a Methodist quilt sale for someone who attends mass at the local Catholic church.
It's just how small town people are. They band together to help, whether you are one of them or not. And many want to help right now.

[henslee]

41. Same reason you get ignored in Lounge and Groups... Bwahhhhhh.

Just kidding.

[xmas74]

43. HaHa!

[AuntieM1957]

47. huh, did you say something? I wasn't listening, sorry n/t