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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:32 AM
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KitchenWitch's Stupid Question O' the Day #90
Why is it when someone comes to DU and says they are a convert from the freeper ways, some people automatically assume the person is a troll and pile on the newbie...can't we be more kind, and perhaps wait until they actually show some trollish behavior before ripping them a new ass canal?
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:38 AM
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1. I'd rather people just not pile on newbies, regardless of the past
Use that little "alert" link in the lower left corner of the post, if you think the person's a troll. If you must, PM somebody else about it - but watching people with under 100 posts get piled on was one of my biggest pet peeves during my moderating days.

Attacking a troll only encourages them to come back, IMO.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:13 PM
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37. I mostly agree with you, but sometimes they ask for the pile on.
Take for example, coming into the lounge and calling long time posters nasty names - of course people are going to come to that person's defense. It just happens.

I don't take post counts into consideration unless a person come in and acts rude from the get go.

I always couch things in terms of how I behaved as a newbie, I suppose. I took the time to get to know the layout of the land and who was who - I didn't come in shooting from the hip. And, anyone who does that is somewhat suspect in my book.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:38 AM
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2. Not to mention
I mean, God, if it really were a a troll, would they be fucking ADVERTISING themselves as an ex-freeper? Let's face it, any user, regardless of their professed beliefs, might be a troll - it is, in fact, quite easy to lie on the internet. I mean, YOU could be a troll. Or maybe *I* am the troll! :tinfoilhat: TROLLS EVERYWHERE!!!! OH NO!


:P In all seriousness, I totally agree with you. It's rude, and unless something they're saying is obviously fishy, we should err on the side of welcoming and kindness.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:40 AM
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3. And who gives a crap, really?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:40 AM by deadparrot
Even if they are a troll, what can he do besides go back to FR and say "ooh, ooh, look at me, I have enough time on my hands to write a lengthy "conversion" story for the DUmmies..."

I'd rather say something nice to an idiot than make a good person feel bad.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:42 AM
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4. hear hear
It is not like they cannot cut and paste anything from here into there anyway.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:45 AM
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5. I would rather they wait until they have been here for
thousands of posts, two years or so, and post something that someone finds questionable before the name calling starts...

I'm just saying....

That's what happened to me in GD so I gravated to DU....

It was WentzelBill that brought me in over here....
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:47 AM
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6. I hear that
I have never been accused of being a freeper, either here or in GD, perhaps my screenname has something to do with that, but I hate how people pile on newbies sometimes...
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:50 AM
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10. I thought this one woman was going to burst through the
screen and bite my head off.....
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:58 AM
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16. That was a happy day, that Wentzelbill brought you here...
to the welcoming arms of the Lounge...

:grouphug:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:59 AM
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18. I agree......
And now I am going to try and catch some sleep....

I know I am woosin out, but hey, I'm gettin on in years now....
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:00 AM
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19. And the hour grows late, my dear Chris...
Sweet dreams!

:hug:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:47 AM
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7. You know, I don't know. Maybe some of us are like abused animals.
We just react violently to the mere presence of that which has hurt us.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:47 AM
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8. what part of your question is the stupid part?
Actually, those kind of posts make me more interested in the self-appointed persecutee/persecutors.

Someone once told me that when you point a finger, you need to remember that there are 3 other fingers pointing right back at you. :)
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:50 AM
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9. I have heard that same advice - about the fingers that is!
There were two posts in GD today that spurred this post

one was a "confessions of a former freeper" post...Most of the replies were kind and welcoming

the other post was a "I can't believe you fell for that BS" post

As yet, the newbie has not ordered a pizza, so I have no reason to believe he is insincere.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:52 AM
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11. Yup.
I alerted on one of them there nasty threads earlier - and it was suicided.

We have to admit, we've got some pretty mean-spirited folks here, too. (but the good far outweighs the nasty)
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:53 AM
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12. true
I like to believe we have a bigger tent than the freepers...I also like it when we prove it!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:53 AM
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13. I've never accused anyone of being a troll
And if they turn out to be one, and run back to Freak Repugnant to jack off over how they "fooled" us with their lies so what? Let them have their little circle jerks in their mommies basements. It's just so much more goop they'll have to clean off their keyboards.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:55 AM
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14. LOL
great visual

EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:18 AM
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20. Yeah, I thought people might feel that way
Here's another visual for you
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:56 AM
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15. An excellent idea, my dear KW....
It is so unnecessary to pile on people when they are new...even if they say they've converted...

Let's show some hospitality...How hard is that?

:pals:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:58 AM
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17. Because some people like to dance the Superior Dance
Just like The Church Lady:



Makes them feel better, I guess.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:39 AM
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21. I've been called a freeper here at DU ...
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:41 AM
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22. You haven't been properly initiated until someone calls you a freep.
Our own little rite of passage, I guess. :)
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:56 AM
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25. I'm settling right on in.
I was kinda shy in the beginning. I guess it took about 6 months before I actually starting saying bite me to people but I did.
I'm enjoying DU now ... more than ever.

but being called a freeper didn't faze me at all after I stopped laughing
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:09 PM
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36. You never had any probs w/ me.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:41 AM
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23. You are kidding me!
:shrug:
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:50 AM
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24. I'm sure they must have been kidding me, I seem to remember it happening
at least twice ... I just said "Where" and let it go. After all it does take time to get to know who someone is in person or on line.


ya know ... what ever

I just keep on truckin'
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:19 AM
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26. Better to hold back
particularly in light of the fact that Republicans are breaking ranks with Precious Leader. Don't want to scare 'em away. Might need them on election day, or at least to join with us to eliminate Republican voter fraud vis-a-vis EVMs without paper trails. They might come in handy.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:22 AM
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27. exactly
even if they are true freepers, it is better to leave them with a good experience...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:26 AM
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28. We can always snigger behind their backs.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:27 AM
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29. I like the way you think!
:rofl:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:34 AM
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30. shit, i'm no fucking freeper....
and they still piled on my little white ass :shrug: hoity toity du "i'm far more groovy & popular than thou" cannibalism says i :thumbsup:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:40 AM
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31. What she said
But I keep the shotgun cocked anyways
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:07 AM
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32. badgers can be a ferocious animal, it's true.
i like playing this question of the day! :+
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:17 PM
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33. I am so glad you do
I like making up the Stupid Question O' the Day!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:21 PM
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34. Some people are so damned insecure
I mean, really, who give a flying fsck? Some people only feel good about themselves by tearing down someone else. If you get your jollies by flaming somebody on some web forum, perhaps you need to get some better hobbies.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:24 PM
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35. True enough!!
I sometimes think the relative anonymity of web forums brings out the worst in some people.
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