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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:28 PM
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Hey! I got my first piece of mail with "Esq." on it!
It's only a brochure advertising Pitt Panther shirts from my school bookstore, but I'm saving it nonetheless! (I'm not really an "Esq." until I'm a licensed attorney, but oh well.)
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:33 PM
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1. Cool!
I rememember the first piece of mail I got with "Rev." on it.

Fun to feel a little smug, eh?

:)

Khash.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:34 PM
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2. It's very weird - I keep thinking, "ME?????"
That can't be right!
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
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4. It can be a little weird
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:38 PM by khashka
but feel a little smugness all the same - it's good for the soul.

But do we now have to call you DeposeTheBoyKing, Esq.?

Khash.
(anyone want's to call me Reverend Khash or Father Khash, I'm cool with it)
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:02 PM
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14. Tut tut tut tut tut.
I think that you'll find that Reverend Khash is incorrect (though very common). "Reverend" is not a title, but rather an adjective applied to a person. Thus it would actually be The Reverend Mr. Khash. :P
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:19 PM
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16. Oh that silly British aristocracy thing.
In the US,Reverend is a title. A religious title, which by some strange circumstance I actually legally have.

But if you call me The Most Reverend Mr. Khash, I'll be putty in your hands (not that I'm not already).


Khash.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
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3. Yay! I'm an "Occupant"!
Whoo-hoo!

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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:46 PM
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5. Always wondered, can attorneys keep the title "Dr." if not licensed?
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:47 PM by WeRQ4U
I think we should be able to. Although I AM licensed, so it's moot for me. But even so.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:48 PM
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6. You can call yourself "JD," that's for sure
You earned that degree!
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:53 PM
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8. That's obscure and anticlimactic though. I want to be DOCTOR.
Hell, if Doctor Laura can be a doctor and she doesn't even have an advanced degree of any kind, I can be a doctor if I've got a Juris Doctorate. Case closed. Pun intended.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:05 PM
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24. Dr. Hunter S. Thompson only had an honorary doctorate
And he was still called Dr.

The easiest way would be to legally change your name to Doctor. That way, everybody would HAVE to call you doctor, even if you lose your JD, somehow.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:49 PM
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7. WHY do they use "Esquire" for attorneys? It makes no sense
I thought the title was meant to refer to a landed property owner. I know that they use it for laywers, but I certainly don't understand why.

BTW, congratulations to you anyway. I'm not knocking your achievements.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:55 PM
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9. Esquire is an old English term for nobility
Like a step below Knighthood. It's modern usage is for "counselor" or "attorney".

I'm sure it's on Wiki though if you want to look it up.

I think it's dumb, regardless of it's origins. I want to be Doctor.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:05 PM
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15. I know what its modern (American) usage is....
I just wanted to know why. Just another form of credentialism? I'm not denying that people use it! I work with lawyers. Some of them simply insist on it.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:03 PM
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18. Really? They INSISTon you using it?
That seems so self-important. I think you're right about the credentialism. I can't think of any other reason why. We definitely aren't a step below knighthood as a whole. lol
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:05 PM
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19. Oh God, no!
Until I pass the bar, of course, I can't function as a "real" attorney yet. But I was a certified legal intern in my last year of law school and represented clients in protection from abuse actions, and I can tell you, the conduct of many of the opposing attorneys left MUCH to be desired! I took great comfort in the knowledge that if these idiots could do it, I certainly could!
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:07 PM
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21. I feel the same way.
I'm practically in the same boat that you are. I graduated in 2004 from Lewis and Clark Law School in Portland, OR. I am in the second year of a two year judicial clerkship. It ends sometime in August of next year. I see attorneys every day that restore the faith in my ability to do this just. A lot of them are absolutely HORRID.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:02 PM
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23. Yes, it's protocol on our letters, etc.
and to other lawyers.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:01 PM
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13. In England it now it is used with great liberality
It's use is still sort of "man with property" but it is frequently used as an alternative to Mr.

Certainly not a title just for lawyers.
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Left_Winger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:56 PM
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10. I felt the same way when I was called "Dr." for the first time
Then it was really weird when my professor called me by that title.
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:57 PM
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11. A Pitt grad?
Whoo! My father graduated from Pitt law school many years ago. And my mother got her master's of social work at Pitt as well. :hi:
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:00 PM
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12. Cool! DUer RPM is also a Pitt Law Class of 2005 grad!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:38 PM
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17. Actually that was a Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure advertisement :)
Bill S. Preston, Esq. was just a movie quote :evilgrin:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:07 PM
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20. That is cool! Congrats!
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:08 PM
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22. Thanks!
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