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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:22 PM Original message |
Need Insight On: The Anti-Circumcision Movement ?? |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Geez...I have no idea there was such a movement... |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. that part I know... |
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7th_Sephiroth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. i was circumsised |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. LOL.............."couldn't walk for a year" |
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regularguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Forget walking. I couldn't have sex for almost 20 years! |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. aren't you glad it was done at birth then? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
72. I was a bawling mess, myself. |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. Come to think of it, I couldn't talk for at least a year and my |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 04:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Well that is sound reason to stop this now. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's called Christianity |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. mutilation ritual? |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. yeah |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. What I want to say might not me appropriate for the kiddies: |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. Apparently, the medical literature is leaning in the direction |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. from my experience... |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. Regarding Female Genital Mutilation |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
83. Problem is, the anti-circumcision "movement"... |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. A couple theories |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 04:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Most of the things done for religion were really for other reasons. |
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JewelDigger (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. Anatomy of the Penis, Mechanics of Intercourse |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. As someone who had to insist on being circumcised as an adult... |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. adult circumcision... |
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JewelDigger (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Object to what? |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Sorry, I get a little knee-jerk about this. |
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JewelDigger (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No problem |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And I told the urologist to keep the tip! n/t |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. ??? |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 04:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. okay...since you asked |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
67. now THIS is funny |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:13 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. the 'papercut' was PRE-procedure... n/t |
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sexybomber (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Dammit! |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Who told you sex would be "better"? |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. Don't feel bad... |
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populistmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. Here's a link... |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. Circumcision is the freakiest human activity on the planet willingly under |
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TexasMexican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. Its Mutilation. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. It's worse than mutilation |
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rexcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
63. I agree, its male sexual mutilation. |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
99. Yes!!!! |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Oh, and they don't remove the whole penis. |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I Counter: |
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ajacobson (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
27. That brings to mind that old joke |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. Anti-circs believe it's a form of mutilation |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 03:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. thanks... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I got the same feeling somehow, even though I'm Christian. |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I don' think you can really compare it to female genital mutilation |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
98. Hate to argue with you |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I do not agree |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. and then there is the reason... |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:51 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. A trimmed winkie will work fine but.... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. The only reports I have heard on Circumsicions |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. FWIW. my hubby isn't circumcized, but he wanted our son to be. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
37. I know someone who's going through the reverse circumcision procedure |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 08:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. that infection is called "the wages of foolishness" |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. It's a very emotional discussion... |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 05:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. attachement parenting ? |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 06:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. There's good information about attachment parenting |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 06:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Think more baby-centered parenting |
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Ellen Forradalom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Both the Sears and Katie Granju get on my nerves a bit |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I've heard similar sort of things |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. I Grok Spock! |
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populistmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:53 AM Response to Reply #40 |
69. I'm an "attachment parent" |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
44. Why is it that female circumcision is barbaric but male is not? (curious) |
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KCDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 08:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. do you like sex? |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:36 AM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Thank you! |
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Philostopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 09:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Well, my thought would be that |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:37 AM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Thanks... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 10:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. well, if they were cutting off the whole penis during Circumcision |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:39 AM Response to Reply #57 |
75. ...and thank you! |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. I take the middle view. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
47. I don't get this movement |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 07:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. well, because.... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 08:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. It's sensitive enough for me clipped |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 11:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. I do, because I've had it both ways as a sexually active adult. |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 11:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. So, one size fits all, huh? |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:32 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Nope, but people keep pointing out the loss of nerve endings, |
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Undemcided (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. I didn't get a say in the matter. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
56. The anticircumcision movement is a little nuts. |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
58. genital mutilation |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:04 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. That's because... |
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WeirdSceneGoldmine (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:06 AM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Back in my younger years |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-03 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
60. An observation about this thread. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Mutilate?! |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Oh' really? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:55 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. What is the foreskin essential for? |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. Burt, some people just reach really far for "victim" status |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. And they call us fanatics! |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
66. you want to remove half the nerve endings on your sons penis??? |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:32 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. well said |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:14 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. yes, don't let facts stand in your way. n/t |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
76. Can we talk about smegma? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:13 PM Original message |
No one seems to want to talk about smegma. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
96. Enough about smegma. |
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WeirdSceneGoldmine (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
77. It's a matter of taste |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
80. Sock cock |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
81. Not for nothing but the last thing I need is... |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
84. It's mutilation like piercing and people should choose it for themselves |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
86. I'm very torn on doing anything not strictly medically necessary |
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phaseolus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
88. Father of two sons ... a comparison on the pain issue |
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CanuckAmok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. No, don't clean up the umbilical remnants, that's God's job! |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
89. Psycho-babble |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. baby shots... |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Every kid is petrified of the doctor |
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elfwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I don't think it is repressed.... |
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absyntheNsugar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
97. I didn't know there was a movment |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
103. I believe the American Academy of Pediatrics |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
104. Circumcision is vastly more of an issue for parents than for male infants. |
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