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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:26 PM
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Poll question: Who played the best Hamlet?


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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:30 PM
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1. Mario Cuomo
Most stage Hamlets are way way too old. Case in point: Derek Jacoby, Kenneth Brannaugh. Most Hamlets look older than their mothers.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:35 AM
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27. Bwah haa haa!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:35 PM
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2. Olivier! But do not forget Guinness, either!
Or Gielgud!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:36 PM
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3. And I saw Randall Duk Kim play a fantastic Hamlet
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:12 PM
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4. Incidentally, is the Brannagh film version available on DVD?
I havent' been able to find it.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:00 PM
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50. I don't think so
I've been looking for it, too. I have it on VHS, but can't play VHS any more.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:14 PM
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5. Anybody but Mel Gibson.
But I'm voting for Olivier.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:17 PM
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53. Come on, not anyone?
Keanu Reeves certainly had to have been worse.

Actually, I thought Mel did a respectable job--he should have, since he's basically acted like he was playing Hamlet in every film he's ever done. I was telling someone about his portrayal of Hamlet once, and I mentioned the scene where he screams out "I am in Hell!" They reminded me that was from "The Bounty."
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:51 PM
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6. Easy Peasy!
Lawrence Harvey in "The Magic Christian"

I was gob-smacked.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:54 PM
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7. Olivier!
That man could not do a bad acting job if his life depended on it..

:kick:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:21 PM
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9. Oh?
You didn't see "The Betsy", did you, CalPeg?

He phoned it in, and the connection was pretty bad.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:24 PM
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10. Ah, my dear Aristus...
You caught me...I didn't see "The Betsey." Oh well, I knew I was taking a chance on this one...

And I got caught!

But there's nobody I'd rather get caught by... :blush:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:26 PM
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12. I caught you, huh?
I guess you're not playing 'hard to get' anymore. B-)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:32 PM
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13. Who, me? Are you talking to me?
Are you calling me *um* easy?

Hmmm...guess again, my dear Aristus...:evilgrin:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:34 PM
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14. No, you're not easy, CalPeg.
You're definitely designed for ages 16 and up. B-)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:39 PM
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15. Well, I do hope you're over age 16!
:rofl:

I can really be outrageous when I want to, can't I?


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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:44 PM
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16. Yep. By 20 years or so.
I'm 36, babe. :P
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:55 PM
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17. Ah, just a kid....
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 11:56 PM by CaliforniaPeggy
My god...I have a daughter who is older than you are...

Maybe I'd better not flirt with you anymore... :blush:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:00 AM
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19. Flirt with me all you want, honey.
I like older women. B-) (My wife is 45! :-) )
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:11 AM
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21. ROFLMAO!
OK....You asked for it! Flirt bombs awaaaayyyy....!

:loveya:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:18 AM
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24. "I haff no son!"
So, you're one of the lucky ones who never saw "The Jazz Singer"? :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:38 AM
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28. You are correct...
I NEVER saw "The Jazz Singer."

Guess I didn't miss much, huh?

Oh well, you win some, and you lose some....:rofl:
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:42 AM
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36. oh god my mom tortured me with that movie as a child
... She was a big Neil fan.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:00 PM
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42. Yeah, it was on HBO or something every 15 minutes in the '80s.
I'm still in therapy TOO-day!
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:12 PM
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52. I was fortunate enough to see Sir (in those days) Laurence
in person. Saw him in The Master Builder (not one of my favorite plays, but I couldn't get tickets to Othello) in Scotland. Totally amazing! The minute the man walked on stage before he said a word, he had the entire audience in his hand.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:20 PM
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8. Gibson--it's the only performance of his...
that I can think of that I like.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:04 PM
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43. Gibson? Here's how it went.
Hamlet Sr.: I am thy father's spirit!

Horatio: Do not go with him my Lord!

Hamlet Jr.: Two days ago I saw a vee-ickle that could 'aul that tanker. You wanna git outtah here, you talk tah me.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:25 PM
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11. Where is the love for Keanu Reeves?
He played Hamlet in Toronto once. The review: "Mr. Reeves said all the words in the correct order." Ouch.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 11:57 PM
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18. Oooooolivier!
Laurence Olivier was fantastic. And damn, the man was beautiful, too.

But I'd really like to see Campbell Scott play Hamlet. Anyone see "Roger Dodger"? He was great in it - an ass, but great.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:11 AM
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20. I did....
It was back in 1971 or 1972, I can;t remember the date....

But it was Junior High, I was the understudy for Steve Campshlutz, the resident "Olivier", more like livid hair, if you get my drift....

So his Ophelia, Doris Wadsworth, who some may remember as the girl who developed into a full blown C cup by the time she was in 8th grade, told me to do something with Steve, he had such bad breath there WAS NO WAY she could go on stage with him....

So I paid off Nelson H'lucky, who was majoring in Maffia 101, to put the hurt on old Steve Campshultz, knowing full well that I, playing Rosencrantz, would get the part by default....

So Steve shows up one day, in the school swimming pool, with a broken leg......

Well, the rest, as we all know, is history...

I went on to a glorious career in Stage and Screen while Steve, well he ended up chasing ambulances for a PI firm in Chilocothe Ohio....

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:15 AM
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22. Oh REALLY?
This sounds like a very tall tale, my dear Chris....

Especially the last part...glorious career in Stage and Screen?


Hmmm...maybe Google is my friend? :shrug:


You sure do spin the great stories, though...Must be the gift of the Irish gab...

:hug:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:21 AM
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25. It's all true....
You can look it up......

But my stage name was Burt Convey
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:27 AM
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26. I still think you're kidding me...
But I have no good way to prove it...

I'll check though...if only to keep you honest!

If you could only see my silly grin....:rofl:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:40 AM
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30. LOL
How dare you disrespect the dead Burt Convey!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:16 AM
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23. Bobby Flanagan in the 5th grade...the fuckin' kid killed!
Killed, I tell ya!
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:07 AM
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29. Derek Jacobi....
...was a great performance.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:45 AM
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37. Thank you!
Why isn't his name one of the poll choices? Damn.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:22 PM
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47. Especially since the OP has Jacobi's picture in it, performing the role...
...you'd think his name would be there, too!
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:47 PM
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58. That's my fault.
I thought it was Brannagh in the picture, for some reason.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:21 PM
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44. Damn! It took 29 posts to remember him? That's my vote, too.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:24 PM
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48. Here's an interesting break-down of some who've played the role...
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:55 PM
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61. Second that. And....
....Patrick Stewart was an outstanding Claudius in that same BBC production. Absolutely the most interesting film interpretation of Hamlet I've ever seen (not counting the whacked-out Russian film version several years ago).
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:49 AM
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31. I voted for Kenneth Branaugh
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:51 AM by wildhorses
but I think Mel did a credible performance and I have yet to see Oliver's...:blush:
on edit: confused Kevin with Kenneth for a half a second (brain fart)
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:51 AM
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32. John Gielgud
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 07:56 AM by DelawareValleyDem
Allegedy, Gielgud once saw Burton perfom Hamlet and made this comment to him.

"I'll come back and see it when you're better."
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:01 AM
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33. Max Schell, in the MST version.
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 08:05 AM by Deep13
Notorious K-I-N-G.

I like him--NOT!

Here's a good skull, a good starter skull.

Why don't you cramlet?
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dr.zoidberg Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:41 AM
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35. Yes!
Hamlet: To sleep...
Servo: SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!
(Mike and Crow startled)
Hamlet: (whispering)To sleep...
Servo: (whispering)sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!!!!
That exchange kills me every time.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:09 AM
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34. The worst Hamlet: Dame Judith Anderson (on the stage)
What can I say? It' was the 70's. Back when directors were stuck in "let's put the stage villains in Nazi uniforms" mode.

Dame Judith was a day older than God, too, when she played Hamlet.

It was just plain weird.
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jackelope72 Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 09:42 AM
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38. Sir Ian McKellen
No, wait...that was Macbeth.

Never mind.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 10:48 AM
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39. Definitely not Kenneth "I really love myself!" Branaugh.
Olivier for me, thanks!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 01:57 PM
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41. Yah, know I like Branaugh's except for one thing.
When the actors arrive there is a discussion among Hamlet, Pelonious and the actor. My understanding from the written play and from other performances is that both Pelonious and Hamlet were quipping humerously about the actor's performance. In the Branaugh film, however, it is more live Hamlet is ripping on Pelonious and the remarks in that context did not make any sense.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:00 AM
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40. Haven't seen Olivier's
I have Olivier's Hamlet on VHS. A freebie someone gave me. Just never got around to viewing it. I reckon I ought to haul the VCR out of the closet and give it a whirl. I liked Branagh's version and am waiting for a DVD version.

Speaking of Branagh; wasn't he supposed to film MacBeth. He'd have to do better than Polanski's, which was good.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:52 PM
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45. Olivier was way too old for the role.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:07 PM
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51. Can't argue that he was too old,
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:08 PM by NV Whino
but that doesn't diminish his performance.

Edit; argh... my keyboard spelled wrong again.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:44 PM
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57. Would like to see Olivier's Hamlet, his Lear was exquisite.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:41 AM
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59. The Hamlet is on DVD
I think I got it at Amazon.
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gizmonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:18 PM
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46. Quick question: is the picture in the OP Derek Jacobi?
If so, then he has my vote.

Cuz he's awesome...nuff sed.:headbang:
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:22 PM
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54. It sure looks like him to me.
And he's got my vote, too.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:58 PM
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49. Gotta vote for Lord Olivier, but
Brannagh based his performance (and look) on Olivier's. Both great films.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:35 PM
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55. Austin Pendleton, from the 15 minute Hamlet
Rare and hard to find a copy of but Austin Pendleton made a great, if slightly too old, Hamlet in the film adaptation of The 15 Minute Hamlet.
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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56. I gotta say, I enjoyed Mel's version over Brannaugh's. Here's a song,
a natty little ditty to remember Hamlet by:

Oor Hamlet
(aka The Three-Minute Hamlet)
Words by : Adam McNaughton
Tune of : The Mason's Apron

There was a king nodding in his garden all alane,
When his brother in his ear poured a little bit of henbane,
Stole his brother's crown and his money and his widow,
But the dead king walked and got his son and said, "Now listen kiddo,
I've been killed and it's your duty to take revenge on Claudius,
Kill him quick and clean and tell the nation what a fraud he is."
The kid says, "Right I'll do it, but I'll have to play it crafty,
So that no will suspect me I'll kid on that I'm a dafty."

So for all except Horatio, and he counts him as a friend,
Hamlet, that's the kid, he kids on he's 'round the bend,
And because he's not yet willing for obligatory killing,
He tries to make his uncle think he's tuppence off a shilling.
Takes a rise out of Polonius, treats poor Ophelia vile,
Tells Rosencrantz and Guildenstern that Denmark's blooded bile,
Then a troupe of traveling actors local seven eighty four,
Arrive to do a special one-night gig in Elsinore.

Hamlet, Hamlet, acting balmy,
Hamlet, Hamlet, loves his mommy,
Hamlet, Hamlet, hesitating,
He wonders if the ghost's a fake,
And that is why he's waiting.

So Hamlet wrote a scene for the players to enact,
So Horatio and he could see if Claudius cracked,
The play was called "The Mousetrap" (not the one that's running now),
And sure enough the king walked out before the scene was through.
So Hamlet's got the proof his uncle gave his dad the dose,
The only problem being now that Claudius knows he knows,
So while Hamlet tells his mother her new husband's not a fit man,
Uncle Claude takes out a contract with the English king as hit man.

Then when Hamlet killed Polonius, and the corpus was delecti,
Was the king's excuse to send him for an English hempen necktie,
With Rosencrantz and Guildenstern to make quite sure he got there,
But Hamlet jumped the boat and put the finger straight on that pair.
When Laertes heard his dad's killed in the bedroom in the arras,
He came running back to Elsinore tout-suite hot-foot from Paris.
When Ophelia heard her dad's killed by the man she was to marry,
After saying it with flowers, she committed hari-kari.

Hamlet, Hamlet, no messin'
Hamlet, Hamlet, learned his lesson
Hamlet, Hamlet, Yorick's crust
Convinced him all men good or bad,
At last must come to dust.

Then Laertes lost his cool and was demanding retribution,
The king said keep your head and I'll supply you a solution.
So the king arranged a swordfight for the interested parties,
With a blunted sword for Hamlet and a sharp sword for Laertes.
And to make double sure (the old belt-and-braces line),
He fixed up a poisoned sword-tip and a poisoned cup of wine.
The poisoned sword got Hamlet, but Laertes went and fluffed it,
Because he stabbed himself and he confessed before he snuffed it.

Then Hamlet's mommy drank the wine and as her face turned blue,
Hamlet said, "I think this king's a baddie through and through."
"Incestuous, murderous, damned Dane," he said, to be precise,
Then made up for hesitating once, by killing Claudius twice.
He stabbed him with his knife and forced the wine between his lips
He said, "The rest is silence," and he cashed in all his chips.
They fired a volley over him that shook the topmost rafter,
And Fortinbras, knee deep in Danes, lived happily ever after.

Hamlet, Hamlet, end of story
Hamlet, Hamlet, very gory
Hamlet, Hamlet, I'm on my way
And if you think that was confusing,
You should read the bloody play.

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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:32 PM
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60. (Sigh)...No... no... no...
The correct answer is Nicol Williamson. Gad... must I do EVERYTHING around here?
:nuke:
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 06:11 PM
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64. Apparently.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 06:08 PM
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62. Bob Denver
In the episode of "Gilligan's Island" when Phil Silvers was on a Harold Hecubah.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 06:08 PM
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63. Laurence Olivier
nt
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