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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:55 PM
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Can Brunell suck any more tonight??
Can he suck any more than he sucked last year?? Apparently, yes, he can.

:banghead:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:56 PM
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1. Take it from a Packers fan....Total and complete suckery is at
near epidemic levels this year.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:58 PM
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2. Hey, at least the Packers have made the playoffs this century.
:banghead:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:59 PM
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4. A Vikings fan checks in on the suck meter as well
Daunte :cry:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:01 PM
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6. If I was a bandwagon fan...I'd be hitchhiking home...
:hi:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:02 PM
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8. Yeah, I know what you mean!
Such suckitude has not happened since the Les Steckel era.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:03 PM
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9. I have a feeling my beloved team is on a downward spiral...the likes
I haven't seen since Bart Starr...

...was coaching that is. :(
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:05 PM
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12. Bart Starr, great QB
miserable coach!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:08 PM
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18. It's funny, because my father is a diehard Starr fan...and he is
always comparing him to Brett (almost impossible...two different styles), but as we watch the game he'll say things out of the corner of his mouth like..."Lombardi would have benched him for that..." It cracks me up.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:19 PM
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42. Ahh, the Lynn Dickey years....
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:58 PM
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3. 6 quarters and ZERO touchdowns.
Not good. Not good at all.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:04 PM
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11. If one could die of yawns, I would be pushing up daisys.
The offense has just been boring.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:06 PM
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14. I hear ya...he flat-out stinks.
Of course, he's not alone...the whole offense sucks and blows.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:07 PM
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16. LOL. Well, Portis is good, and Cooley is good. But, never against Dallas
Argh.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:08 PM
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19. Hey!!! A 40 yard pass!!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:08 PM by GOPisEvil
Will wonders never cease? :D
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:10 PM
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21. Wonders would never cease if they won this game.
That, would be a wonder.

And, now a sack.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:12 PM
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24. There goes that drive.
Next!
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:00 PM
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5. Bring on the rook!
But seriously,I think the one problem with the Redskins is the total lack of imagination offensively. I look at other games on Sundays,and it seems like EVERY team besides ours has a downfield passing game. But what do I see the Skins' do? Try to go down the field 5 yards at a time.
Joe Gibbs is the man,but I'm starting to wonder if he should go looking for his missing balls.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:05 PM
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13. I would like to see some deep passes, myself.
And there was a deep pass that went incomplete, and a penalty. Holy shit.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:02 PM
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7. Im watching the other game
Saints/Giants. Pretty good game.

Go Steelers.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:04 PM
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10. He's from my alma mater
I had to double check to see if it was the same guy still playing. :D
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:06 PM
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15. He was good in the day.
But, that was the day. He was really good, actually.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:10 PM
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22. Yeah, well, he's almost my age.
So ... his day is probably long over.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:07 PM
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17. I guess so,
as long as his mouth is not tired.

:evilgrin:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:09 PM
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20. LOL n/t
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:11 PM
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23. His arm is shot and he should have retired two years ago
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:14 PM by Awsi Dooger
The most vital statistical indicator for an NFL QB is yards per attempt, not overall QB rating. Not even close. The YPPA stat reveals how accurate you are and whether you can get the ball down the field, an absolute necessity in this league.

Brunell's arm steadily declined and it was never great to begin with. It's gotten to the point his yards per attempt is embarrassing, not NFL caliber. Check out Brunell's lifetime numbers here, specifically the column title Y/A, meaning yards per attempt: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/BrunMa00.htm

The sharp and steady decline since '96, and especially since 2001, is startling. At 5.0 last year Brunell was worst in the league along with Eli Manning, obviously a rookie overcoming growing pains.

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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:15 PM
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25. There was one that would have been an easy TD if he had some air under it.
He threw it too low.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:20 PM
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27. Yeah, I saw that
Too bad because I always liked Brunell dating to his Husky days. I rooted for Jacksonville in the playoffs several times but they always came up a bit short.

The selfish positive aspect for me as a sports bettor is just betting against the Redskins and under the total every week while Brunell starts. I did that last week vs. Chicago and again tonight. It forces the Redskins to score more than their projected point total, and I'm more than willing to challenge a guy who had 5 yards per attempt last year to put up some decent points.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:25 PM
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29. They might need to put in the rookie.
I thought they pulled Ramsey a little soon, but oh well.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:38 PM
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32. Strangely, Ramsey declined in yards per attempt also
He was above average for a rookie at 6.8, then fell to 6.4 and last year 6.1.: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/RamsPa00.htm The reference point is generally 7.0, above that considered very good.

That's very odd for a player progressing to his 2nd and 3rd year. It lends some credence to the the theory Gibbs' offensive system just isn't up to contemporary NFL standards, looking downfield first. I always thought Ramsey had a good arm but too line drive prone. Not enough variety of pace and loft. That was evident even at Tulane. The kid from Auburn can throw every type of pass but he tended to lock onto his intended receiver in college.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:43 PM
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33. Yeah, the offense is extremely conservative.
There were a few 3rd and longs last week where they would throw horizontal, or run. No way to make a first down on those plays.

I honestly think Ramsey just has more spirit than Brunell. He might make more mistakes, but he also makes more plays. If you don't make any plays, then mistakes cost more.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:18 PM
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26. After 22 years as a Redskins fan I am about to give up. I have lived in
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:19 PM by BlueStateGirl
the Philly area for 15 of those 22 years and have never wavered. I have always been a steadfast Skins fan, but I just can't take it anymore.

I hate Daniel Snyder. Jack Kent Cooke Stadium should never have been renamed Fed Ex Field. Brunell sucks. So does Ramsey.

I'm going to practice 'Fly Eagles Fly' and finally hop on that bandwagon.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:23 PM
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28. Noooooooo, please don't go!
Misery loves company!

I lived in MD 'til I was 8. I have lived in FL since 80, and somehow, I am still a 'Skins fan. I admit, though, things do not look good. Except the defense.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:25 PM
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30. I'm hanging by a thread. Seeing John Riggins at the start of the game
helped.

If Gibbs wasn't back, I'd probably be gone.

It's tough to be a Skins fan in Philly.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:28 PM
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31. I imagine it is.
I love Gibbs. He seems to be a little conservative in the play calling, though.

:(
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:57 PM
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34. Unreal, TD bomb to Santana Moss on 4th and 15
Allow me to curse Roy Williams, who loves to hit but may be the most overstated cover man in the league. Now I'm sitting on a damn push.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:10 PM
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35. So much for Brunell's arm being shot
At least for tonight. And if Roy Williams makes the Pro Bowl they might as well rename it the Ryan Leaf pro Bowl.

At least the under still looks good.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:11 PM
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36. Holy Shit!!! Holy Shit!!! Too good to be true!!!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:13 PM
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38. Damn, they got the ball to midfield.
We need a turnover, or to really hold now.

:scared:
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:13 PM
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39. I knew it was too good to be true.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:18 PM
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41. They need to keep em out of field goal range, they still are on 3rd down.
Argh.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:12 PM
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37. Damn!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:17 PM
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40. brunell prayed for rain
and the football gods pitied him--for now


personally, i just say start campbell
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:21 PM
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43. OMFG
Holy crap, they held them.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:29 PM
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44. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
FUCKING YES!!!!
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