I am having bad thoughts about my neighbor cats

[BensMom]

Ok - Loving my coffee and my early morning walk in my backyard. Such a nice break from hectic weekday grind. I so enjoy the birds and butterflies - relishing in my most favorite time of year.

THEN - the stench.

The neighbors 3 (at last count) cats/kittens have again used my flowerbed for a toilet.

I really want to put a "gift" on the drivers seat of her Lexus.

[bleedingheart]

1. Try to think of the positives....

I bet you don't have a mole or vole problem.

[BikeWriter]

16. Excuse me, the moles or voles on other's property are nunya

bidness, or your cat's!

[bleedingheart]

58. I don't have a cat...

my entire family is allergic.

However I have a very large garden and the neighborhood strays come into my garden and they kill the moles and voles for me...the moles eat my tulip bulbs. To reward the kitties...I planted catnip....in a way I am now the local feline "drug dealer"...hahahaha...

I know that a kitty has visited because the catnip will be all crushed from them rolling in it.

[BikeWriter]

60. That's great f you like cats. I don't.

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[BikeWriter]

83. I reserve the right to dislike what I want. I don't like fucking cats!

I don't like being called an ASSHOLE for my preferences in pets either!

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[BikeWriter]

88. Because I don't agree with you? Hee hee hee!

40,000 comedians out of work and everybody tries to be a fucking comedian. :-(

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[BikeWriter]

93. Nope, I'll go check my cat trap.

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[JVS]

97. Word!

[BikeWriter]

98. You noticed that, too? I admit I did point out I don't like cats...

That makes me an ASSHOLE in her book. :(

[JVS]

89. You're right!

Cats suck!

[BikeWriter]

96. You got that right, especially outdoors! Here's a site that proves it:

http://www.matrifocus.com/LAM02/earth.htm

"My understanding then of predator and prey relationships in nature was simple and misguided. I viewed predation as a natural phenomenon. Predators hunt and kill, and prey utilize evasive maneuvers to avoid getting caught. It's natural for cats to kill and so I thought that birds and other local wildlife had built-in defenses against their predation. I couldn't have been more wrong. My reasoning was missing an extremely important variable called evolution."

[zanne]

2. Skunks, possums....

Most cats "cover up" their poop. I know it's tempting to blame your neighbor's cats, but it could be skunks or possums. I have four cats and I have never seen any uncovered cat poop. I have, however, seen a possum take a dump in my flowers.

[BikeWriter]

13. Uh, some people like to be able to dig in their flower beds, too!

[Kailassa]

3. gedoffadacat

Ohh, those sort of bad thoughts. I thought I was in a freeper forum for a minute.

It wasn't my cat, he's been sitting snuggly inside my t-shirt all evening. He's a real connoisseur when it comes to choosing a pillow.

[BikeWriter]

14. Why, do freeper forums have people who resent irresponsible...

pet owners?

[JVS]

87. Because if you find any fault with cats and/or their owners, you're bad

I think that's the operating mentality here

[BikeWriter]

Yes, I know, fuzzy kitties can do no wrong. Feral cats are...

decimating our wildlife by the hundreds of millions each year. Yet, touching the cute little head of one fuzzy wuzzy widdle murderous cat is a CRIME!

[miss_kitty]

4. I have no idea where you are

but try planting a ground cover. go to your local nursery and tell them the conditions and see what they suggest.
here are some things that work in the PNW:
Baby's tears
Corsican mint
Irish moss
Scottish moss
Viola
Coptis
Brass buttons
Various sedums

Not all off those work in the same conditions, but if you find something you like and it covers the ground, the critter won't beable to dig and poop in that bed. It will also suppress weed growth

[BikeWriter]

17. An easier solution: responsible pet ownership!

[miss_kitty]

70. Oh I am all for that

I also have been known to return fecal material to the owner-the human owner. I did deposit all the dogshit I could find next to a neighbour's car door-the driver's side. Many times. With notes. and why the variety? because she needed to know what it was like to have to pick up other peoples' dogs' shit.

[BikeWriter]

71. I've delivered dog and cat poo to rightful owners, too.

It serves them right.

[miss_kitty]

72. I think it's the Best solution

I had to leave midge's by her car door because she lived in a secure apartment building-I can tell you-had I known how to get in the building, I think the problem would have been dealt with before I had to call Animal Control. :D

[BikeWriter]

75. I invite the neighbors out in the street to fight, too...

I know that wouldn't be too Lady-like, but it does shut them up. :)

[miss_kitty]

78. Really I am not concerned with being lady-like at all

but since my surgeries, I am much more open to severe injury, if I ended up on the wrong side of an ass-kicking...:rofl:

[BikeWriter]

82. There are only two strikes in a fight I'm concerned about...

the first, and the last. If you make the first effective enough, it it may be the last, too. :)

[miss_kitty]

5. PS-from a thread I answered in last night:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4053095&mesg_id=4053683

[BensMom]

6. Motion activated sprinkler would be good IF

I only had 50+ dollars to spend in the direction of the neighbor cats.

[BikeWriter]

18. No shit, why should we have spend money to control their cats?

[zanne]

28. Well, Bikewriter, another way to do it...

There are plenty of places where cats are not allowed. In most apartment buildings, for example. Of course, you're not going to move because of other people's cats, you're not going to spend money on chicken wire because of other people's cats. Why don't you just put a big sign out in your yard that says: "Feline Trespassers Will Be Shot". I know, I know, cats can't read. Should cats be required to learn to read? I don't know what else will satisfy you, Bikewriter. Well, I guess we'll just have to change the world for you.

[mrbill]

29. BRAVO

n/t

[BikeWriter]

30. Hey, no problem, if your cat is in my yard, it becomes my cat.

I deal with my cats as responsibly as I see fit. It's as simple as that.

[mrbill]

32. if livestock in Texas strays, it doesn't work that way.

It doesn't automatically become your cat or cow.

In Texas it's ok to torture a possum.

[BikeWriter]

35. Rule #1 in my yard: I make the rules in my yard.

Rule #2: Any cat in my yard is my cat.

[mrbill]

37. sure glad that i don't live next door to you.....

my yard is more of an open range operation, all furry critters are welcome.

[BikeWriter]

41. Well, you see, cats kill other critters and I don't like them...

therefore they're not welcome here. That's the law in my yard. :shrug:

[mrbill]

44. are possums welcome?

n/t

[BikeWriter]

47. You mean like this one?.

[mrbill]

49. has the cute little possum had food or water in the last 24 hours?

my neighbors leave them in the trap to die and be eaten by fire ants.

[BikeWriter]

52. That one was released in a rural area.

[mrbill]

55. ok you can be my neighbor.....

rural area cool, draw the line a possum abuse

[BikeWriter]

56. You can be my neighbor, too, as long as your pets don't trespass.

That's all I ask.

[mrbill]

61. my cats are smart. they stay out of the neighborhooh asshole's yard.....

they visit they elder other neighbor and get butt scratches and tasty treats.

They also have a contract job across the street killing snakes in the intermitent creek.

[BikeWriter]

62. The snakes are beneficial natural fauna, you know.

[JVS]

92. Are cats governed by the laws concerning livestock in Texas?

[BikeWriter]

100. The Animal Control will come pick them up if you trap them...

on your property. Most of them are euthanized, unfortunately. :(

[miss_kitty]

69. hey. I thought her answer to me was rude

she made some statement about being put out by the stink of cat shit. I know she didn't ASK for ideas, but I thought giving an idea to control it might be helpful. I have already decided to probably not respond to the poster again, since its seems like it's all about the complaining, and any effort on her part to help herself is not an option.

We all have to pay for shit that alleviates shit done by others. Our insurance is higher because a neighbour got into an accident. You pay more for your leathers because some assholes shoplift. If you are accused of a crime you did not commit, you must expend time, money and energy to defend yourself.

And well why should we pay taxes to pay for Bushit's heinous war? It's an unjust world.

Cats do what they do. If you don't like it, you may have to take steps to alleviate their actions. I like animals so I find the scaring of said animals or blocking their access to be more acceptable than anything else. And yes it may cost money, and no it may not be fair. But there are plenty of larger concerns over which we have NO CONTROL that don't involve the smelling of cat shit.

If you don't like the smell of catshit, I understand. If you just want to bitch about it and not do anything about it, I have the following suggestion: Belt up. I know some people won't and I have an ability to learn from my mistakes-I can hide thread when it's available.

Hey BikeWriter-you rebel you! :hi:

[BikeWriter]

73. LOL! As you know I take any invasion of my space seriously...

Whether it's the * crime family or the neighbor's dozens of cats. The numbers of the neighbor's cats has been thinning out recently. I wish I could do the same to the others.

[miss_kitty]

76. I know you do!

and I know there is nothing I can do to control that in you. You are immune to my many charms! :7

[BikeWriter]

79. ROFL! I'm afraid I'll only be immune to a woman's charms when I'm dead.

[JVS]

91. I've heard that if you trap the cats and send them to the pound...

that the owners are generally more careful about supervising their cats.

[BikeWriter]

101. Yes, I've done that repeatedly.

[SoCalDem]

7. Chicken wire is your friend

lay it around your flowers and then cover with a very thin layer of dirt..If they cannot dig, they'll find someone else's flowers to use for a bathroom..

[BikeWriter]

19. If they're in my Havahart, and then the SPCA, maybe...

they'll be given to an owner who will take care of them!

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[radwriter0555]

10. No, it's about violation of personal space with shit. That's right, CAT

shit.

Same thing as human shit.

Same thing as dog shit. Same thing as trash.

If a person left their shit or trash on your doorstep or in your yard you'd not be pleased.

I don't want my neighbors cat, dog or human shit or trash in my yard. It's their responsibility to take care of it so that it doesn't become MY responsibility.

[BikeWriter]

20. I give a flying fuck when cats shit or piss in my yard...

I call that my fucking business.

[shanti]

9. be glad they're just your neighbor's cats

one of mine has taken to pissing on my BED! i haven't been able to catch it in the act, so don't know which one. i was so good about keeping the door closed all day, and my teen son went in to preen in front of the full length mirror. he left the door open and voila! fresh new wet spot!

:mad: :grr:

[BikeWriter]

21. Cat piss on your freaking bed? GAG!

:puke:

[AtomicKitten]

11. You can't control cats like you can dogs.

And cats almost always bury their valentines. Perhaps you have another culprit you aren't aware of.

[mrbill]

12. my neighbors put out a live small animal trap to deal with "cats".

The neighbor lady said cats were shitting in her flower beds and having keg parties at night and peeing in her bushes and the smell was so bad that she was embarrased to have friends over. I couldn't smell a thing except the neighbor lady's "ten dead hussies" perfume.

MrBill's cat's were the prime suspects. No way my cats were defecating in her yard, they all come inside and use the box. Interesting side note: healthy cat shit doesn't stink after about five minues.

I told her i would keep them out of her yard and she said that cats were stupid and couldn't learn shit.

So far after about six months she hasn't caught any cats, mine or the neighborhood strays, in her professional grade live animal trap. My cats know to stay out of an asshole's yard.

Possums aren't as smart as cats. She's caught five or six of them. The most recent one i had to call the cops because she left it in the cage without food or water for three days.

[BikeWriter]

23. Hee hee hee! How do you know she hasn't caught any cats?

:shrug:

[mrbill]

25. i know that she hasn't caught any cats because...........

Shortly after awareness of the trap, made a trip to Home Depot and installed a two camera CCTV system on the area in question. Technology rules, night vision is cool.

Wanna watch the video of real slow moving reality series? Possums suffering in the trap, no cats in the yard.

shrug.

[BikeWriter]

33. That's the only trap she has, huh? I have two.

[mrbill]

53. whoopee shit.

n/t

[BikeWriter]

57. Hey, they work for me.

:shrug:

[BikeWriter]

22. Some of us can and will control our cats! My cat= any cat in my yard!

[Tallison]

31. Thank God for creatures resistant to human control

Helps keep the ego in check. (You can tell the overblown ones by their degree of frustration on this thread).

[mrbill]

34. I've met a lot of cats that were smarter than human people......

good point about keeping ego in check.

[BikeWriter]

36. Overblown egos? No, aversion to cat shit.

[mrbill]

42. is dog shit cool?

bird shit?

[BikeWriter]

46. Dogs don't normally climb my fence. The birds belong here.

[mrbill]

48. so it's all about cat shit.....

my neighbor whines about cat pee.

mine use the box in the house and are under constant video surveillence when they are outside.

[BikeWriter]

Cat piss stinks, too. Either one will get my cat* a ticket...

out of here.

my cat*= any cat caught on my property.

[BikeWriter]

54. Duplicate.

[Tallison]

64. And who's the authority on what creatures "belong"?

Are you appointing yourself? What are your qualifications?

[BikeWriter]

66. Duplicate

[BikeWriter]

67. I own my property, that qualifies me. Feral cats kill wildlife...

and are alien to the Americas, that exempts them from my usual concern for animals. Nutria, fire ants, and alien species of birds are also on this list.

[BikeWriter]

15. You certainly aren't the only one, BensMom!

One's domesticated animals, be they cats, dogs, horses, or elephants, should be safely and responsibly contained on one's own property!

[mrbill]

24. do possums and racoons get a free pass?

n/t

[BikeWriter]

38. No, they get caught and removed too.

[mrbill]

40. removed where? to another happy habitat or a death camp?

at least you get might credit for removing them fast.

[BikeWriter]

43. That's for me to know and irresponsible cat owners to worry about.

[mrbill]

50. I was asking about the possums and racroons that stray.....

not the cats.

do you eat the possum?

[BikeWriter]

59. I carry them off. I prefer eating raw steak...

and chicken, sans corn flakes.

[Redstone]

45. Give 'em hell, BW. It's damn peculiar that if your DOG goes

and digs up the neighbor's garden, you get in a bucket o' trouble.

But if it's a CAT, well, it's always excuses: "Gee, you know, you can't control cats. It's just the way they are, yacketa yacketa..."

We have lots of coyotes, eagles, foxes and other predators around here; feline leukemia is almost epidemic, and Lyme disease IS epidemic. Anyone who lets their cats wander around in this area is NOT a cat "lover."

Redstone

[BikeWriter]

51. Yes Sir, roaming cats get run over and die from diseases, then...

their owners snivel about how much they loved poor Fuzzy-Wuzzy. If they loved them they'd keep them inside where it's safe!

[Scout]

94. hear! hear!

yup, always excuses for the cats/owners ... but boy let my dog run loose, or poop in someone's yard and there's hell to pay.

If you don't want a neighborhood asshole like BikeWriter or me to claim your kitties, keep them on your own property and under your control.

[BikeWriter]

103. You got it, Pard! We'll control them, if they won't.

:-)

[Bridget Burke]

26. What did your neighbor say when you complained?

Why don't you take pictures of the cats in the act to prove they are the culprits?

There are products than can safely repel cats--so I hear.

Or is this just a case of Lexus Envy?

[Tsiyu]

27. Mothballs?

try throwing some around the flowerbeds.

[BikeWriter]

63. Paradochlorobenzene or Naphthalene? Both are potentially toxic.

[Tsiyu]

74. I did not know that

Only did it once, and not near any foodstuff- just ornamentals.

Thanks for letting me know, God among Men ;)

[BikeWriter]

77. ROFL! :-)

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[BikeWriter]

86. I'm already getting help. I don't need...

the additional irritant of someone else's animals in my yard.

[crispini]

39. Here we go again!

:popcorn:

[we can do it]

65. Do IT! you'll feel so much better

I have a neighbor who's dog "conveniently escapes" every time he has to poop. We now scoop it up and throw it on her front steps, driveway or whatever....its been happening less often.

[BikeWriter]

68. A neighbor opened his door as I emptied a garbage can over his fence...

He asked, "Can I help you?" I replied, "Your dogs ate part of my trash, I picked it up and delivered it in case they get hungry later." His dogs came trotting into his open gate at the time. I never saw those two again!

[CatWoman]

84. Praise Goddess

that you're not my neighbor.

[BikeWriter]

104. ROFL! It's simple. C-o-n-t-r-o-l y-o-u-r a-n-i-m-a-l-s.

[Meatwad]

99. I'd do it.

But that's because I'm evil like that.

[Le Taz Hot]

102. You have several options

Cats, by their nature, wander. Even when they're spayed/neutered. That doesn't make the owners irresponsible. If you don't want cat shit in your yard go to the pet store and purchase one of several products that you can spray in your yard as a deterrent -- less than $5.00. Or ask the pet owner to pay for it. I do it for my forever-bitching next-door neighbor (with the 2 dogs that bark incessantly every time I step foot in my OWN back yard). I've also built two outside litterboxes that get cleaned at least twice a day. I've done everything humanly possible (other than take them all to the pound to have them killed -- something my neighbor, and probably you, would applaud) but cats will be cats.

People who have animals who spay/neuter them and make sure they have their shots and make sure their animals get lots of love and attention are NOT irresponsible. I have 8 cats at home and all but one are as a result of being dropped off by REAL irresponsible owners or being born to stray mother kitties in which the IRRESPONSIBLE OWNER did not get them spayed/neutered. They come into my yard looking for food and they get adopted, spayed/neutered, shots, etc. Labeling ALL cat owners who allow their cats to go outside as "irresponsible" is inaccurate to say the least.

How sad for you that you find it necessary to hate poor, defenseless animals. It says a lot about you as a (sub) human.

[Midlodemocrat]

105. Locking.

First flamewar of the week - check.

Now, where is the songbird thread?


Thank you.