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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:56 PM
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In case you missed this! The "Pro-War Rally" today drew a WHOPPING
400 people! I have to be mature in my response to this and say: NEENER, NEENER! Mandate, my ass :D

Also, as far as the counter protesters on Saturday, I can tell you honestly that the number who attended were only enough to line one city block single file. That is it. That was their designated area along the route and theire were fewer than 100 people there.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/25/national/a113202D72.DTL
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:07 PM
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1. Woo hoo! The winless war for lies and...
imperial colonization is fooling less people all the time!
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:11 PM
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2. Hi there! Can I just tell you that the good guys had a very good day
yesterday? :hi: And, I for one, am motivated by people like you. Thank you. :loveya:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:25 PM
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8. Thank you, Dear, and thank you for your activism. :-)
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:14 PM
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3. And I bet they all had cooties.
:D
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guinivere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:19 PM
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4. They could very well have had cooties or mad cow disease
the way they were penned up like cattle.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:23 PM
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7. I don't know about cooties, but they definitely had "bumper sticker"
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 04:23 PM by JimmyJazz
politics. All they could do was regurgitate Sean Hannity soundbites. One guy called me out to debate him, but since he didn't know Augusto Pinochet was also an evil dictator who killed his own people, the debate ended when he scored a knock out punch by calling me "crazy" - you KNOW that kind of logic always wins on the college debate teams!

I jumped the fence and picked up a "Let's Go Free Republic" sign and started chanting "Blood for Oil" "Blood for Oil" and "FOUR MORE WARS" "FOUR MORE WARS"

Okay, okay - maybe not. But I was impressed by his rapier like wit. :silly:
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:20 PM
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5. I turned if off
all i saw were Dumb people!
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:27 PM
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10. LOL!
I didn't see any of it because I was traveling, but it was nice to read about such a lousy turn out. Mandate my ass :D
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:21 PM
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6. How strange
I don't think they're in favor of the occupation of Iraq as much as they're anti-Cindy Sheehan and anyone who points out the murderous folly of it all.

It's so odd to find people who would probably describe themselves as good Christians attempting to degrade people who are preaching peace and truth.

But, it's freedom of speech, and I say it's great.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:26 PM
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9. I completely agree! One guy on Saturday was preaching the
"Good Word" and telling us we needed to repent because we were all going to hell. I thought that was really odd considering we were there to protest violence and, to my knowledge, Jesus was also a pacifist. It was really rather sad to see someone distort religion in such a manner.

Although it was kinda cute that one man was holding a sign that read "Right Wing Wingnut Exhibit" just before we got to the block where the counter-protestors were allowed to stand. :D
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:36 PM
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12. That Good Word guy,
or his clone, is always around downtown. He preaches at me for walking past and tells everyone they're condemned to eternal damnation.

They're not pro-religion, they're not pro-anything. They're anti-people like us. They are, though, propelled by something that lives on the edge of madness - a whole lot of anger there. I really suspect they've all been abused as children.

He's not nearly as much fun, though, as the guy over by the Air and Space Museum who screams as you walk towards him. He looks just like Jesus, and he can yodel.

I saw a great guy on C-Span at the rally - he was wearing an orange prison jumpsuit, carrying a big sign that said "Republican chicks won't date me."

I love my D.C. home.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:41 PM
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13. I SAW HIM! I saw the Republican chicks won't date me guy!
Here are a couple of other good signs:

"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country is doing."

"My son used to be an embryo, please don't send him to Iraq."

"sad"

"Bush says it was faulty intelligence - NO SHIT"

There were soooo many good ones, but those are the ones that I can recall.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:06 PM
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19. You know what?
Our side is so damn smart, and it just makes me so damn proud.

Those signs are great! Thank you for telling. I saw one in a photo here on DU last night:

"Cheney eats kittens."

I love us.

I hope that guy met lots of good leftie women with (naturally) great senses of humor .........................
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:11 PM
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20. did you see the man with full size breasts
and a goatee? He had a sign that said "Breasts against Bush"

:puke:

That was the worst thing I saw yesterday. This guy had tits bigger than most women. He had a full size rack
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:28 PM
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28. I think that was a woman
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 05:29 PM by latebloomer
who has a shitload of facial hair and flaunts it proudly!! Along with her breasts!

My husband quite enjoyed that group of topless women.

My kids (13 and 11) looked away in horror!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:35 PM
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30. no, it was a man
I heard him talking. It was awful :scared:

and most of the women taking off their shirts, well, probably shouldn't have, if you know what I mean

I also saw an old woman who tans WAY WAY too much and her skin looked like a leather hand bag
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:40 PM
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31. Really?
That is amazing!!

I just thought-- I bet there'd be a lot more woman with a face like hers if wax and razors (and lasers, and electrolysis) had never been invented.

Weird!

Was the old woman half naked too? Didn't see her.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:44 PM
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32. no, but her alligator like skin was scary
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 05:46 PM by Zuni
:scared:

I will never get the image of the "breasts against bush" guy out of my head. It was too much to bear

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:47 PM
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16. I saw that guy!
:hi:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:19 PM
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23. Hi! I'm sorry that I missed you for the march!
It was great though, wasn't it? I've never experienced anything like that in my life :D
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:32 PM
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29. 'twas massive
I phoned Progmom, and tried to catch you guys, but I got caught in an enormous crowd of people

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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:09 AM
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39. That was quite a laugh
"Repent," and "Where did you get that potty mouth", The crowd started to chant "asshole, asshole" at him. Didn't hear his response but theirs changed to "bullshit, bullshit" I could hear it half a block away. It was pretty silly. I am so sorry I didn't meet you JimmyJazz! It was a very good time though, wasn't it?
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:19 AM
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42. Did you see the guy on that corner with the sign that read
"Right Wing Wingnut Exhibit?" :rofl:

I'm sorry we didn't meet, too. :(
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:31 AM
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43. No, wish I had though.
I wasn't really thinking about the counter protests until I saw the handful of idiots. I was seriously annoyed at the "stop the war on the preborn" crowd. But a few miles later I saw a GREAT sign that said "My son was once an embryo. Please don't send him to Iraq"
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:22 PM
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49. The guy with the sign is Rev Mykeru here is a link to his site and a GREAT
video that was made of him holding that sign and doing the carnival bark towards passerbyes to get them to check out the "right-wing exhibit"



http://www.mykeru.com/index.html
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:32 PM
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11. this allows for a corrected "approval rating"
Let's give yesterday's march a conservative estimate of 200,000 people (in my opinion, it was probably more than that, but anyway it was a hell of a lot of people).

And so today's "pro-war" activity drew 400.

Now let's take these numbers and treat them as a sample of opinions.

By my math, that works out to be slightly less than .2% approving of the occupation, and therefore a 99.8% disapproval rating for our Chimperor.

How's that for a mandate?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:43 PM
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14. MSM is claiming they had 20k
They are admitting that the antiwar rally was much more massive. But they are saying 20k or so showed up for the prowar thing today.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:20 AM
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36. I think it said they were hoping for a 20k turnout, not that they got it.
At least that's what I read.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:45 PM
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15. A lot more than expected
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:53 PM
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17. Truly a thing of beauty.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:02 PM
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18. Hey, JimmyJazz!!
I enjoyed meeting you last night.

And thanks for telling me about what I think is the Best Sign Ever-- "My son was an embryo once-- Please don't send him to Iraq!"
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:16 PM
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21. I loved meeting you, too!
:hi: You were there! What signs did you see? (we should probably start a new thread on this topic alone!)
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:26 PM
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27. " I Can't Believe We Still Have to Protest This Crap ! "
said it all for our life experience. We marched with a couple we knew in college...in FACT the four of us were a part of the "Armies of the Night" marching in October and November,1969.




and 1970
1971
1972
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TheProphetess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:48 PM
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35. I took tons of pictures of signs
I get them back on Wednesday, so I will indeed start a thread of protest signs. Good idea! And it was nice to meet you! :hi:
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 06:47 AM
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37. It was really great to meet you, too! I'm sorry we didn't get to sit and
chat, though. I was TOTALLY exhausted on Saturday night (mostly from not wearing my sneakers on Saturday).

:hi:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:19 PM
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22. more death, more meaningless & superfluous war un-planning...
more diversion of already scarce, limited & precious resources, more nowhere fast, more nothing, less by far being it is the republican way

welcome to the republican war on terror ~




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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:22 PM
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24. Pictures are supposed to say 1,000 words.
yours say 10,000 - :loveya:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:24 PM
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26. We got the circuses, here's the Bread
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:24 PM
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25. I don't get this:
Our troops are over there fighting for our rights, and if she was in one of those countries she would not be able to do that," Vigna said.

So, they're fighting for Americans rights, so you shouldn't use those rights.

Ditto this:
"No matter what your ideals are, our sons and daughters are fighting for our freedom," said Marilyn Faatz, who drove from New Jersey to attend the rally. "We are making a mockery out of this. And we need to stand united, but we are not."

Yeah, stop making a mockery of your freedoms by using them!
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:15 PM
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33. Great post! I LOVE it!
Yes, whatever you do, please don't use your rights.

Another sign: "That's okay, I wasn't using my civil rights anyway" - :)
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:40 PM
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34. hah! so nutty
it's never made sense to me, its a total contradiction. Unless, like many things, 'freedom' has a different meaning in the US than in Canada? But somehow I doubt that.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:17 AM
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38. Typical.
According to Republicans, you can't dissent while important events are occurring, even if you have doubts about the wisdom of the government's choices. In other words, dissent is only okay when we're all in agreement or when nothing big is going on. Freeper Logic 101.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:12 AM
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40. I think they dissented a little bit when Bill Clinton sent troops to
Bosnia, though - so apparently there are some loopholes in their logic :)
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 01:58 PM
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46. You're right. Loophole IOKIYAR.
Dissent is only wrong, wrong, wrong when Democrats, liberals, and other non-Republicans engage in it.

But It's OK If You're A Republican.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:19 PM
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48. Oh, you mean like THIS?!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:16 AM
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41. I was there and I agree with your estimate
100 or less miserable clueless people on that area
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 08:51 AM
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44. So they mustered 1/1250 of what we got? (nt)
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:17 AM
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45. This is great news!
Too bad the military recruiters weren't there to sign them up on the spot!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:06 PM
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47. BWAHAHAhahahahahahaha!!!!
Way to support the troops, guys! :rofl: :rofl:
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