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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:04 AM
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Did anyone ever cook with cloves?
My 7th grader is studying spices for his social studies class and had to make something with cloves. So he chose these Greek cookies called Korabides (sp). The recipe tells you to insert one whole clove into each ball of dough and bake. I tried one and when you bite into the clove it's like trying to eat tree bark!! Now I am wondering if I was supposed to just use the little round top of the clove and throw the stem away? I have never used cloves before. But these cookies taste really strong and leaving a nasty aftertaste in my mouth. Help!!!!!!! I hope he doesn't get an F!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:05 AM
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1. Yes..just the bud..not the stem..
take the back of a spoon, and crush it before you put it into the dough...

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:05 AM
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2. Maybe you should grind the cloves up
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:07 AM
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4. Whole cloves are WONDERFUL when you bake a ham
Very time-consuming to poke them all over the ham, and then pat on brown sugar..but YUMMMMMM:)
pain in the ass to remove them all before serving the ham..tastes fantastic though
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:08 AM
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6. Yes, yes. But as you say, you have to remove the cloves when done.
I've even baked cloved spam.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:09 AM
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9. Boiled in a sauce pan, they make your kitchen smell heavenly
..better than cinnamon
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:12 AM
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13. I knew that something had to be wrong because my two
best friends are Greek and I have had these cookies before. AND THEY WERE GOOD!!!!! I have the most disgusting aftertaste in my mouth right now.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:14 AM
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17. So, are you on the payroll of the National Clove Producers Organization?
;-)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:15 AM
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18. It's an "honorary" position
:)
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:16 AM
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21. Do you remember Clove chewing gum?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:17 AM
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23. I special order it all the time.. and Black Jack too
Have some in my desk drawer right now :)
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:19 AM
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26. Is it any good?
I could never bring myself to try it. I am more the cinnamon dentyne type of gum chewer.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:22 AM
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30. It's great.. I also order teaberry gum
:)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:19 AM
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27. If you chew 5 sticks of Blackjack at once and don't swallow...
you can get this enormous brown loogie that will sit on your driveway for a whole week. I speak from experience
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:20 AM
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28. LOL!!
Thanks for a good laugh. I just could never try Black Jack either.
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:15 AM
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19. Huh?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:16 AM
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20. She just seemed to know too many uses for cloves
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:18 AM
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24. The only thing I know is Clove chewing gum and ham
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:18 AM
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25. Just call me Bree
:)

I even like wicker baskets :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:17 AM
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22. Just ragging on me for my enthusiasm regarding cloves
They really are my favorite spice.. hate nutmeg..mace..ginger..cinnamon is so-so..but cloves are my fave:)
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:37 PM
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39. I love cloves too!
My pumpkin pie recipe calls for 1/4 tsp cloves, but I always put in 1/2 tsp. I love a good, spicy pumpkin pie.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:01 AM
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34. NEVER pollute a ham w/ cloves
Ham is good for for that.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:07 AM
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3. Hey, is this one of those midnight before the project is due moments?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:08 AM
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7. My son once woke me up at 5 AM and said..
"Mom, I need 36 cupcakes"

I said "When"..

He said "by 7AM today" :)

First and only time I sent store-bought cupcakes, but I had no choice:(
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:10 AM
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12. If I had a kid, and I were told that. I would have one thing to say.
"Do you think that I can just pull cupcakes out of my ass?"
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:14 AM
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16. LOL
:rofl:
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:09 AM
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8. Yes, I guess it is.
The cookies are all done so there is really nothing I can do at this point. I am not starting over now. I guess I will send a note to his teacher. He did get a late start because I had to work tonight.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:12 AM
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14. The die is cast.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:08 AM
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5. Does he have to cook something?
If not have him do one of those orange clove balls.
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:10 AM
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10. He did have to cook something. n/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:10 AM
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11. Oh, come on!
A whole clove means the whole clove!

Put the goddamn thing in, and be done with it. After you baked it, it's less nasty.

But, in the old days, cloves were more valuable than gold, and the rich would keep a wholve clove in their mouth so that their breath would be awesome and wonderful.

Jesus, put the whole fucking clove, like you are supposed to, into the dough and bake it.
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:13 AM
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15. That's just what the recipe said, so that's what he did.
It's a done deal. I am making him take the recipe to school tomorrow so he show his teacher.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 12:22 AM
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29. Many Indian recipes call for whole cloves
which are then removed.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:00 AM
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31. I use whole cloves
in Harvard beets, also throw some into the water (along with lemon slices and some nutmeg) when boiling shrimp.

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Doris32r Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 03:10 AM
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32. I've always used cloves to season meat...
You insert the cloves into the outside of a ham for example and then remove the cloves after the ham has baked. Maybe the cloves needed to be removed from the cookie? You know just insert into the top of the dough? Or maybe the cloves should be ground up?
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:56 AM
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33. My husband's Pakistani, so we make a lot of Pakistani food
I put cloves into the rice with cumin I make, as well as pieces of cinnamon stick. All my recipe books say to throw away the cloves and cinnamon sticks before serving; they're just there to add flavor during the cooking process. Sounds difficult to do in your case, though, because you're baking them right in.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:02 AM
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35. They're essential for mulled wine
Though it's too far from Christmas to be making that at the moment - and I'm not sure that the teacher would really approve of it (which is a pity because it's one of the most wonderful substances known to humanity).

You place an orange spiked with cloves into the pan - even better halve the orange in the pan.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 08:07 AM
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36. Here's a recipe for Kourabides, it looks like you are supposed
to take the clove out.

KOURABIDES
(Makes 5 dozen)

http://www.countryfolkart.com/kourabides.html

Shape into various designs (exp.: balls or moon shapes.) Place on ungreased cookie sheet one-inch apart. Stick a clove into each cookie. Bake in oven at 350 degrees for 20 minutes, or until very lightly browned. Allow to cool slightly before removing from baking sheet. Remove cloves. Sprinkle with confectioners sugar

Maybe your recipe just missed those two words.

I like cloves but they are very strong.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:55 PM
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37. ground cloves are essential for good pumkin cake,
pumpkin pie, and other tasty sweet things.

and used a lot in Indian food
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:04 PM
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38. If it's cooked, it should soften up
Maybe it would be better to soak the cloves in the water/milk/liquid used for the recipe, in order to flavor it.
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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:02 AM
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40. If it is not too late to change the menu
you could poach pears in apple cider, cloves, and cinnamon sticks. The fruit is very good and the juice is drinkable and the clove is still visable, yet clearly changed. Good show and tell. Also the aroma is wonderful.

Anyway if you don;t do it for school, try it another time. Enjoy.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:36 AM
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41. or you could just have him brew clove tea...
cloves are either to be ground finely and then consumed. or cooked with the food and then removed before serving. or if too deeply mixed within, give a warning to your guests to not eat them, just like telling them not to eat bay leaves.

but just throw a stick of cinnamon and 2-3 cloves into boiling water and make tea. then bust out your sara lee spiced pumpkin pie, preheat to 325, cook and serve tea.

and cloves are an anti-parasitic. piss off the buglies residing in those lil' kids digestive tracts.
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